Nadia Sawalha #52 A word from Saffy drives the Swadderleys daffy

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must've just been gardening again....

omg the swamp monster!!!

Careful Allybongo77 you're flying close to the sun there; Nadia Sawalha would sell her children for Lesley Joseph's waistline. 😂 Although, I think you might really be on to something ...
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Lose the leopard and add a mixing bowl and ta da! Presenting Nadia Sawalha when she was thin and miserable. 🤥
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i saw that book in a charity shop on monday - 50p!!!
 
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I used to like Kaye Adams and wondered why ever she let the wicked witch back into her life as a friend and not a work colleague but seeing these holiday stories I think it is a case of "birds of a feather stick together".
The thing that strikes me about those holiday stories is that Nadia Sawalha is able to edit the content into watchable segements and get it up on the Gram whilst she's still on holiday. Even when she's half cut half most of the time. Let's face it, if Mark Adderley had gone to Marbs, the trip would have been dragged out over 5 'films' that we could expect to 'land' on a Sunday in mid June, as a 'treat' to make up for the Nonexistent Sunday Show. :sneaky:
 
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Just watched the hot cross bun tasting vlog .. omg the amount of butter pilled on everyone no wonder her legs are lumpy with cellulite , her body will turn to stone with all that
 
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Well no CM today , the reason.....Easter Bunnies are playing havoc with their lives lol!!! Its always something but Easter Bunnies
 
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The thing that strikes me about those holiday stories is that Nadia Sawalha is able to edit the content into watchable segements and get it up on the Gram whilst she's still on holiday. Even when she's half cut half most of the time. Let's face it, if Mark Adderley had gone to Marbs, the trip would have been dragged out over 5 'films' that we could expect to 'land' on a Sunday in mid June, as a 'treat' to make up for the Nonexistent Sunday Show. :sneaky:
nah, she's sending it back to mank. and the house eunuch is editing it surely and then uploading it. "I live to serve mistress nadia sawalah off the telly.. I live to serve."
 
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Our catch up will be later and perhaps with Nadia, she asked if we can hold off going live until she is - either sober or has got up when the paracetamol has kicked in.
Is he wearing the Easter Bunnies, why has the pratt got that on his head?
 
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Having been bullied for years, having tried to get along for years, I think Julia has done more than enough in respect of wasting her energy and life in her sisters. We only know a small snapshot, knowing the snapshot we know of nadia and I'm certain she's nastier than a nasty person behind the fake "be kind" facade. She's quite evil under the surface.

Calling out the children's behaviour was long overdue and we have no idea how hard Julia has been trying behind the scenes.

If someone had hurt me as much as nadia has hurt julia and I'd spent yrs trying to get past it, I too would walk away from the relationship.

The children are different, what kind of relative sits by and let's a young child pimp herself out on social media? Julia has a moral compass, nadia definitely does not.

If the "family" felt awkward, they would never take sides but they clearly have.

Some battles are just not worth it.
I really do disagree.

Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of what went on as I'm not Nadia or Julia. I can say, though, that their way of dealing with whatever happened behind the scenes doesn't come across not healthy, nor does it feel proportionate.

I do think they need to deal with their trauma in a better way. Like you've said, it weaponises family members trying to keep peace by forcing a perception of 'picking sides'. It's a dysfunctional set up that only causes even more conflict and casts a wider net of who else can get caught up in a conflict that should really be between two people.

Sniping/interference on social media is not a solution.

I'm not really defending either side or combing through the details of what happened because it's not really about that. What is clear is that the current set up of dealing with whatever may have gone on isn't healthy. It isn't working for literally anyone - including Nadia and Julia. They just believe it's better than actually facing their issues head on... but I find that unlikely.

Putting your head in the sand and avoiding the other person isn't a sustainable solution. Avoidance, while by far the easiest route to take, just exacerbates issues and solidifies them over time. Well-meaning family members enable the avoidance so they don't have to be seen to 'pick sides'. It isn't helping to deal with trauma or underlying issues - it just causes further trauma, in my view.

Dina particularly is in an unenviable position.

There are rare occasions when it's a good idea to cut people out, usually when there's a real risk of danger or abuse to one of the parties. I do wonder if this relationship falls under this bracket. Except for those extreme cases, I do think most people can get to the point of civility if (and only if) BOTH parties are ready to acknowledge that 1) their current way of dealing things is not working 2) both have a mutual interest in being civil 3) they can work together to come to a better solution with the help of a mediator/counsellor.
 
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I really do disagree.

Obviously I don't know the ins and outs of what went on as I'm not Nadia or Julia. I can say, though, that their way of dealing with whatever happened behind the scenes doesn't come across not healthy, nor does it feel proportionate.

I do think they need to deal with their trauma in a better way. Like you've said, it weaponises family members trying to keep peace by forcing a perception of 'picking sides'. It's a dysfunctional set up that only causes even more conflict and casts a wider net of who else can get caught up in a conflict that should really be between two people.

Sniping/interference on social media is not a solution.

I'm not really defending either side or combing through the details of what happened because it's not really about that. What is clear is that the current set up of dealing with whatever may have gone on isn't healthy. It isn't working for literally anyone - including Nadia and Julia. They just believe it's better than actually facing their issues head on... but I find that unlikely.

Putting your head in the sand and avoiding the other person isn't a sustainable solution. Avoidance, while by far the easiest route to take, just exacerbates issues and solidifies them over time. Well-meaning family members enable the avoidance so they don't have to be seen to 'pick sides'. It isn't helping to deal with trauma or underlying issues - it just causes further trauma, in my view.

Dina particularly is in an unenviable position.

There are rare occasions when it's a good idea to cut people out, usually when there's a real risk of danger or abuse to one of the parties. I do wonder if this relationship falls under this bracket. Except for those extreme cases, I do think most people can get to the point of civility if (and only if) BOTH parties are ready to acknowledge that 1) their current way of dealing things is not working 2) both have a mutual interest in being civil 3) they can work together to come to a better solution with the help of a mediator/counsellor.
i don't think Julia should feel any obligation for changing nadia, or getting to a place of being civil with her, just because Nadia's pathology will always creep back in. It's that old parable of being stung by a scorpion, and it telling the person it stung it was in its nature. As long as Julia gets to spend loving time with her parents, that's enough, and the elder nieces and nephews can make their own choices as to whether to be in contact with her. I'm sure she has a wide circle of friends. The loss of nadia of the telly in her life is no loss to anyone imo. if you're financially independent, sorted, have a great social circle, you have the ability as well as every right to decide who you want to exclude and include in your life, and feel no guilt for doing so.

mank and nadia's whole schtick can be boiled down to "they can't help themselves because that's who they are": no healthy human being should feel obliged to interact and socialise with two people who have that as their underlying behavioral philosophy.
 
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i don't think Julia should feel any obligation for changing nadia, or getting to a place of being civil with her, just because Nadia's pathology will always creep back in. It's that old parable of being stung by a scorpion, and it telling the person it stung it was in its nature. As long as Julia gets to spend loving time with her parents, that's enough, and the elder nieces and nephews can make their own choices as to whether to be in contact with her. I'm sure she has a wide circle of friends. The loss of nadia of the telly in her life is no loss to anyone imo. if you're financially independent, sorted, have a great social circle, you have the ability as well as every right to decide who you want to exclude and include in your life, and feel no guilt for doing so.
I agree - neither party is going to change the other, and becoming civil has to come from both people. They share responsibility. I do strongly feel like if they could find a way of just being civil, they'd be much happier and the family would be much happier too.

I can't say I look at either side and say that it looks healthy, and can't imagine living a family life like that - particularly in how that must impact others.
 
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I do strongly feel like if they could find a way of just being civil, they'd be much happier and the family would be much happier too.
nadia will always start civil and cross the line. it's in her nature. that's why that this is not a reasonable expectation on julia.
 
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nadia will always start civil and cross the line. it's in her nature. that's why that is not a reasonable expectation on julia.
Perhaps - no one can say for sure if that'll happen. That is why it can be useful to bring a mediator on board to set boundaries and expectations that work for both parties.
 
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still not true. individuals have no responsible for each others behaviours, or for constructing relationships with people who are fundementally pathological.
I agree with that - I don't have responsibility for an action someone else has taken. But I do have a responsibility to live and make decisions in my own life to help me, and everyone around me, to live a happy life.

I also realise that I do bare responsibility for things that happened in the past. I may not have 100% responsibility, I may not even have 50%, but I can't look back and say I did everything right.
 
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mediators will not achieve anything with someone who is fundementally pathological
If one person has a core belief that the other person is fundamentally unworkable, then sure. I do think that reflects more poorly on the person holding that belief though.

Who can actually know how another person will be in a specific situation without actually just seeing what happens - especially if it's to find a solution?

The problem with perceptions and beliefs is they inform unhealthy behaviour. Unless you allow yourself to experience the thing you're avoiding, you won't actually know if it'd pan out the way you think it may.

Worst case scenario, it ends with both parties where they were - so nothing lost beyond some short-term discomfort. A better scenario would be things just being more comfortable for all.

I wonder if that's the whole truth, or just a perception which may have some scope to be moulded.
 
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If you have a core belief that the other person is fundamentally unworkable, then sure. I do think that reflects more poorly on the person holding that belief though.
thanks for telling me that what i believe reflects poorly on me. I think that's where I'll end this.
 
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I think we can all agree that the family situation is unfortunate to put it mildly. I'm sure there are people on this thread, me included, who have/had exprienced strained family relationships and those with siblings are can be the most fraught. It isn't hard to see yourself in Julia's shoes if you feel you have been on the outside looking in.

We all know, otherwise we wouldn't be here, that the Sadderleys live their life on social media. We all know that they want absolute loyalty in their gang. If you express the slightest bit of concern, you are either a troll or you don't realize that is how they roll. :rolleyes: Julia puts up a thoughful post and the Sadderleys lose their tit and close ranks. We don't know what transpired, but seeing Dina choose Nads was sad. This is so entrenched that short of locking them in a room together, the likelihood of it resolving anytime soon is slim to none.

I have said in a post ages ago; I think the parents have just resigned themselves to leaving it to them. They are all adults now and the parents won't get involved. Dina might feel obliged to side with Nadia, but if she had a backbone she would have said "Look, I love you both, but don't expect me to choose. It's not fair to me and we are not children."

As the saying goes, "Living well is the best revenge" and if I was Julia I would say to Nadia "Checkmate!" :sneaky:
 
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