Exactly this. I fail to see how it doesn't start creeping up instead u just wake up with it and in constant pain every day? She's just a lazy head who wants an excuse to do duck all all dayShe’s such a whinger. I know a couple of people with hyper mobility and they just get on with it! What I find out she literally mentioned no symptoms before diagnosis, now she’s got it she don’t shut up. I wouldn’t put it past her if she didn’t have anything wrong and now has been told she might have it that she’s decided just to run with it now and use it as an excuse not to work, be tidy, parent etc