Lucy Letby Case #65 Guilty

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I can’t read anymore just jet. Those parents are so so brave and my heart is breaking for them.
I hope some kitchen porter is grinding up glass in LL dinner as we speak and she doesn’t get a day of peace ever!
 
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A question that I'm sure has been asked before, but are the babies' names not made public at the request of the families? If so, that's fully understandable. I just noticed the names of Allitt's victims are public and I wondered why there was a difference this time around.
 
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I really hope something is done for the families who received a NG verdict. It’s heartbreaking to think they’ve lived and breathed this trial (and every day) the loss of their child or children and there’s been no real justice for them. What were the cases for those who received a NG? Was it just that the jury found there wasn’t enough direct evidence to produce a G verdict? What briefly were the cases where she was found to be NG?? I’m still shocked she wasn’t found G on all accounts if I’m honest. I know it’s harrowing for the jury, but it’s surely even more awful knowing you not coming to a decision has meant families aren’t getting justice idk..
 
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Will it now be live at 12.30 instead of 2? We get to wales bang on 12.20 so hopefully I can get it on, then I’m going to find Karen and twit her
 
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11:47am

The pre-recorded interview is now played from the father of Child O and Child P.
He recalls being "shocked" at the news of triplets.
He says the parents were "both overwhelmed", but the pregnancy progressed well.
The birth was traumatic, but the team were happy with the triplets' health, as they were admitted to the neonatal unit.
The parents were "so excited" to see the boys doing well when they went to see them.
On June 23, "things started to go downill", when he was informed Child O had had a collapse. He said he was thinking the worst, and informed the mother.
He said the moments of seeing Child O die were horrific and something he would never forget. "It felt like a stab in the heart".
"No-one at the hospital had any explanation"
After Child O died, the parents were "extremely concerned". "It was hard to disguise our emotions".
"No-one really knew what to say, it was an awkward silence."
The following morning, the parents were informed Child P was poorly. They were told 'it's happening again'. They "didn't know what was happening", and could see Child P looked worse than before.
"I thought we were going down the same roads we did with [Child O]."
Child P sadly passed away later that afternoon.
"We were pleading with the doctor [at the transport team] to take [the surviving triplet] away with them".
He said it was a terrible situation to be in.
He said they had received no guidance from the Countess in terms of support following the deaths of Child O and Child P.
The father details further problems in the parents' lives took their toll on their mental health.
He said he felt guilty for showing happiness in the surviving triplet's life, that he could not take any joy from it.
He said in the aftermath, he "hit rock bottom". As his life was "slowly improving", news came through of Letby's arrest. He was gobsmacked but relieved there appeared to be some sort of explanation. He said he had believed there was "some form of clinical negligence", but never believed the boys had been "murdered on purpose".
He says he struggles to socialise with friends or family, and finds it difficult to answer the question on how many children he has.
He adds coming to terms with the police investigation has been difficult.
He said he had initially been called as a witness, and seeing Letby for the first time was "extremely difficult".
He said the actions of Letby's text messages and Facebook searches were "in poor taste", and found it difficult to see the mother being "so upset".
"Lucy Letby has destroyed our lives."
He adds the pressure of the trial has been difficult to describe.

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I bet the poor judge needs a moment to collect his thoughts and absorb everything he has just heard
 
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On a break till 12.30, this is absolutely harrowing in person. Hearing the pain, sorrow and anger in the parent's voices 😭 so many tears here from everyone in the courtroom xx
Thank you for being there in person for all of us. Take care of yourself, I can’t imagine how traumatic it is xx
 
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It's so harrowing hearing the poor parents statements. Those poor defenceless little babies.
I really hope some con is able to get to her in prison.
 
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Mr Johnson asks if Lucy Letby wishes to change any of her answers from yesterday. Letby: "No."

Mr Johnson asks if handover sheets were handed out to student nurses.

Letby said she would have handover sheets as a student nurse at some placements, but in the neonatal unit she cannot recall specifically. She tells the court it was not standard practice at the neonatal unit to hand out handover sheets to student nurses "for the time we are talking about".

Mr Johnson says one of the handover sheets, dated June 1, 2010, was in a keep-sake box with roses on the box, when Letby was a student nurse [Letby having started full-time employment at the hospital on January 2, 2012]. Letby says she cannot recall it.

Mr Johnson asks what is "unusual" about the handover sheet, and how it differs from the others.

Letby is unsure what Mr Johnson means.

Mr Johnson: "It is in pristine condition."

Letby: "It's the original?"

Mr Johnson: "Yes."

Letby: "Ok."
2010 ??????😩 that’s six years she could have been doing this for. Good god I feel this is only going to get worse.
 
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Personally, not to jury shame at all and obviously I wasn’t there in receipt of all the inside info. But I would feel so guilty if I couldn’t of come to a solid decision of guilty personally.
 
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I can’t read anymore just jet. Those parents are so so brave and my heart is breaking for them.
I hope some kitchen porter is grinding up glass in LL dinner as we speak and she doesn’t get a day of peace ever!
Sorry just seen that’s already been said 😪
 
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I bet the poor judge needs a moment to collect his thoughts and absorb everything he has just heard
Yeah, definitely. They will all need a few to process it all, it’s a lot especially for those brave families ❤
 
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A question that I'm sure has been asked before, but are the babies' names not made public at the request of the families? If so, that's fully understandable. I just noticed the names of Allitt's victims are public and I wondered why there was a difference this time around.
Yes at he beginning there names were known but when the trial started the judge banned anyone naming them, I think this has to remain till there 18. There names were read out in court but reporting was done under babies a-q
 
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The friend disclosed she had a difficult birth I wonder what happened to her at birth
I would imagine absolutely duck all and she uses it for sympathy/narc supply
Exactly - to be blunt, her birth isn't a memory for her. Maybe it made her mum more protective over her, but overall, her birth has NOTHING to do with the evil crimes she committed. She's an evil bleep and there's no point in trying to explain it away.
 
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Sick of them showing her ugly mug, it’s unfortunate we can’t see the beautiful babies instead of seeing that bleep
 
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A question that I'm sure has been asked before, but are the babies' names not made public at the request of the families? If so, that's fully understandable. I just noticed the names of Allitt's victims are public and I wondered why there was a difference this time around.
The babies who have survived are anonymous to age 18.

A few of the babies who died are a sibling of those babies - A is B’s twin, E is F’s twin, so to identify A or E would also identify B and F. So those babies would need to be anonymous.

From that point on it was likely far easier to anonymise all babies in this case, rather than risk journos forgetting which ones do and don’t have anonymity orders. Add in that the parents don’t need hounding and may have requested anonymity, and you can see why.
 
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I’m so fed up with hearing people say that they are waiting with bated breath to hear what the judge says, and ‘there must be some reason’ why she did this. There is no fixing someone with this level of sociopathy. But they are waiting for a big reveal 😖 I don’t hear anyone saying there must be some unanswered puzzle as to why Rex Heuermann killed women.
 
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