SmudgeTheCat
Chatty Member
There is no way she did this for only a year. There is more babies, more families and I hope she is tried for all of them.
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LittleMy
VIP Member
11:18am
A statement is read out for the mother of Child N.
She said Child N was everything she had ever wanted in life. When the baby boy was born, she hadn't planned for him to be taken to the neonatal unit, and she was so upset.
Preparations were taking place for Child N to be coming home. When they received the news Child N was poorly, they couldn't believe it, and were presented with an "utter catastrophic scene" when they arrived, "not knowing if he was going to live or die".
"The pain was immeasureable - we both live with this every day".
Child N was transferred to Alder Hey Children's Hospital. The longer trip made them "exhausted" both physically and mentally.
She said she knew Child N had been deliberately harmed, and based it on a mother's instinct, and told her partner so, at the time.
When Child N eventually came home, she said she only wanted her or her partner to take Child N for medical appointments. She says she suspects Child N had lasting effects from the attempted murder.
She says there has only been one occasion when the parents have been out socially, since, as they have difficulty trusting anyone else to look after Child N.
A baby monitor was in place until Child N was four or five years old, and Child N still has a camera, as she says they are 'overly protective' of their boy.
She says anything else in life didn't matter, only the welfare of their son. "We do everything possible to keep in safe. If that means wrapping him up in cotton wool, then that is what we'll do."
She says there was a 'mixture of emotions' when police were investigating. They were 'happy and relieved' they were 'finally being listened to'.
He said the worst part of going to court was being away from Child N. Having to listen what she did "weighed heavily" on her mind.
"We don't want her to know the damage she has left - we didn't want her to get any further satisfaction."
A statement is read out for the mother of Child N.
She said Child N was everything she had ever wanted in life. When the baby boy was born, she hadn't planned for him to be taken to the neonatal unit, and she was so upset.
Preparations were taking place for Child N to be coming home. When they received the news Child N was poorly, they couldn't believe it, and were presented with an "utter catastrophic scene" when they arrived, "not knowing if he was going to live or die".
"The pain was immeasureable - we both live with this every day".
Child N was transferred to Alder Hey Children's Hospital. The longer trip made them "exhausted" both physically and mentally.
She said she knew Child N had been deliberately harmed, and based it on a mother's instinct, and told her partner so, at the time.
When Child N eventually came home, she said she only wanted her or her partner to take Child N for medical appointments. She says she suspects Child N had lasting effects from the attempted murder.
She says there has only been one occasion when the parents have been out socially, since, as they have difficulty trusting anyone else to look after Child N.
A baby monitor was in place until Child N was four or five years old, and Child N still has a camera, as she says they are 'overly protective' of their boy.
She says anything else in life didn't matter, only the welfare of their son. "We do everything possible to keep in safe. If that means wrapping him up in cotton wool, then that is what we'll do."
She says there was a 'mixture of emotions' when police were investigating. They were 'happy and relieved' they were 'finally being listened to'.
He said the worst part of going to court was being away from Child N. Having to listen what she did "weighed heavily" on her mind.
"We don't want her to know the damage she has left - we didn't want her to get any further satisfaction."
gigilouxx
VIP Member
They deserve to have them posted through their door every day for the rest of their lives, they shouldn’t be able to escape what their demon child has done, especially given the fact they’ve bent over backwards to defend it
I’mThankyou_
VIP Member
As a mother of a severely disabled ex preemie.I'm not sure what's worse- loose your child or to see your child severely disabled and fully dependent on other till the end of the lifetime
I know it might sounds awful but watching your child suffering while seeing your child peers who are growing up more and more independent and enjoying life to the fullest sounds like a torture. Not to mention constant worry what will happen with your brain damaged child when you gone
It's not a thought that would ever cross our minds.
They still have life. We still get to hold them and kiss them every day.
With respect this is actually triggering and disrespectful.
F1Grid
VIP Member
Yes, he did. Means that if any conviction gets overturned somehow she’s got 12 other WLOs.
Miss M
Active member
New to this thread - I was following early on but then my own baby passed away and I found it too hard to keep up with the trial.
I’m at work with tears in my eyes at the thought of something so cruel being done to an innocent and defenceless child As someone who has lost a baby, albeit not at the hands of another ‘person’ (words I would like to describe her with are not appropriate) I will hold the parents in my heart forever.
I would love to know these poor babies names to be able to honour them in some way, but I know they’re not being released.
I’m so glad she is getting what she deserves and I hope someone gets hold of her in prison somehow.
I’m at work with tears in my eyes at the thought of something so cruel being done to an innocent and defenceless child
As someone who has lost a baby, albeit not at the hands of another ‘person’ (words I would like to describe her with are not appropriate) I will hold the parents in my heart forever.I would love to know these poor babies names to be able to honour them in some way, but I know they’re not being released.
I’m so glad she is getting what she deserves and I hope someone gets hold of her in prison somehow.
The posts about her potentially going to a NHS hospital (which is what rampton and Broadmoor are) are really frustrating me.
SHE ISN’T ILL. At the time of her crimes, she knew exactly what she was doing. Yes she’s a fucked up evil psychopath but she wasn’t mentally unwell in the acute sense. It’s insulting to people with mental illness.
This evil woman knows right from wrong, and she chose to do what she did.
SHE ISN’T ILL. At the time of her crimes, she knew exactly what she was doing. Yes she’s a fucked up evil psychopath but she wasn’t mentally unwell in the acute sense. It’s insulting to people with mental illness.
This evil woman knows right from wrong, and she chose to do what she did.
RebelRebel
Member
I feel its incredibly meaningful that she has received a whole life order for each and every guilty verdict - rather than just one blanket one. Justice Goss showing that what she did to each and every baby individually was abhorrent, not just as a whole.
Padparadascha
Active member
I'm mentally listing all the things she now will never be able to do - go shopping, cook a dinner, go on a date, go on a hen do, drive a car, spend Christmas with family, go ice skating or go on a pub crawl for her birthday. She'll never again eat in a restaurant, or go to a hair salon or go on holiday to somewhere hot to lie by a pool.
It's very satisfying, imagining her thinking about all the things she will never ever get to do ever again.
It's very satisfying, imagining her thinking about all the things she will never ever get to do ever again.
Dolly Daydreaming
Well-known member
On a break till 12.30, this is absolutely harrowing in person. Hearing the pain, sorrow and anger in the parent's voices 
so many tears here from everyone in the courtroom xx
so many tears here from everyone in the courtroom xx
Cunning Linguist
Well-known member
Baby H was NG and no verdict so the parents don’t get to
LittleMy
VIP Member
She’s not going to Rampton, she’s going to prison. Goss said it.
“You’ll spend the rest of your life in prison”
studentgossip
Chatty Member
The poor father of the triplets. Reading his struggles are gut wrenching. Him turning to drink, him and his partner splitting up on top of the death of his beautiful children. That evil bitch needs the exact same treatment of what she did to those babies.
Windowtothewall
Chatty Member
Tom Parmenter's comment on Sky News sums up the enormity of today - ""She will drive away from this building under police escort, no doubt in the next hour or two, knowing that she will never see the outside of a prison ever again."
At least the coward got it right on her post it in July 2016 - She will never have children or get married and the world IS a better place without her. She knew exactly what she'd done and the consultant, police and prosecution have done a phenomenal job for 8 years to get justice for the families.
Btw I am infruriated that Janet Cox and Jennifer Jones Key STILL have photos up on FB of her socialising with them. How on earth can they want to be associated as a friend of this scumbag piece of shit!!
At least the coward got it right on her post it in July 2016 - She will never have children or get married and the world IS a better place without her. She knew exactly what she'd done and the consultant, police and prosecution have done a phenomenal job for 8 years to get justice for the families.
Btw I am infruriated that Janet Cox and Jennifer Jones Key STILL have photos up on FB of her socialising with them. How on earth can they want to be associated as a friend of this scumbag piece of shit!!
jackolantern
VIP Member
The photos of her holding the baby and baby gro should be banned from the internet for all eternity.
LittleMy
VIP Member
11:28am
The mother said in June 2016, she was still recovering from the birth of her triplet boys, and it was "dififcult to put into words" when Child O passed away - it was "traumatic".
She said she was in "total shock and disbelief".
The following day, she felt more reassured when she saw the other two triplets. Child P later collapsed and the mother said she felt she blamed herself, thinking she had passed on some kind of illness.
She said she had to remain strong for the surviving triplet's sake, but had a "horrible feeling" he was next.
She says there was additional guilt that the extended family were unable to have any time of Child O.
She said it was a traumatic experience having to think of what should be written on Child O and Child P's gravestone. She said returning to the hospital, when another family member was admitted, gave her flashbacks.
The mother said she had a further child in 2017, and the parents had 'point-blank refused' to have the baby cared for at the Countess.
She says the time around June is always a difficult time to face.
She said she was initially asked to be a witness, and that meant she had to miss most of the trial, only for her not to be required as a witness at the last minute.
She says the court environment was "extremely harrowing", and she placed herself behind a monitor so she was not in the line of sight of Letby. Her first appearance was in March 2023.
She says having to come to terms with the police investigation has been "unbearable" and hates the fact Letby was the last person to hold Child O.
The mother said in June 2016, she was still recovering from the birth of her triplet boys, and it was "dififcult to put into words" when Child O passed away - it was "traumatic".
She said she was in "total shock and disbelief".
The following day, she felt more reassured when she saw the other two triplets. Child P later collapsed and the mother said she felt she blamed herself, thinking she had passed on some kind of illness.
She said she had to remain strong for the surviving triplet's sake, but had a "horrible feeling" he was next.
She says there was additional guilt that the extended family were unable to have any time of Child O.
She said it was a traumatic experience having to think of what should be written on Child O and Child P's gravestone. She said returning to the hospital, when another family member was admitted, gave her flashbacks.
The mother said she had a further child in 2017, and the parents had 'point-blank refused' to have the baby cared for at the Countess.
She says the time around June is always a difficult time to face.
She said she was initially asked to be a witness, and that meant she had to miss most of the trial, only for her not to be required as a witness at the last minute.
She says the court environment was "extremely harrowing", and she placed herself behind a monitor so she was not in the line of sight of Letby. Her first appearance was in March 2023.
She says having to come to terms with the police investigation has been "unbearable" and hates the fact Letby was the last person to hold Child O.
