Lucy Letby Case #65 Guilty

[Upintheair83]

Honestly this is so hard to take in, listening to all these parents. It's made it all even more real, and as mummy, as a human, my eyes are streaming and I can't believe how utterly cruel one human being can be. Those poor little souls, so tiny, so innocent and fragile full of love, hope and life.... they all had families who had their hearts torn apart by this evil.
We are all asking the question 'why?'
The families have been so brave, so courageous and fought so hard.
Iv listened to these accounts so these babies are remembered, so that the parents have their voice heard ..... LL may not be listening to their words but everyone else will never forget and LL will never be in society again, her name is forever associated with evil and I hope her life in prison is as torturous as she so deserves.
Rot in there and rot in hell LL

 

[docmum]

*Edit to opening post - sentencing remarks will being at 12.30*

 

[F1Grid]

Someone just posted about a pristine handover sheet in a rose box....how did I miss that during the discussions? If anyone is up to giving a bit of info about that pls do...

She basically said all those handover sheets she had at home were shoved in her bag and she forgot them.

Prosecution pointed out that she had one handover sheet which was kept in a special decorative box. It was from when she was a student on placement at CoCH’s neonatal unit IIRC, and she had admitted that student nurses did not get given handovers.

Really disturbing.

 

[LittleMy]

11:47am

The pre-recorded interview is now played from the father of Child O and Child P.
He recalls being "shocked" at the news of triplets.
He says the parents were "both overwhelmed", but the pregnancy progressed well.
The birth was traumatic, but the team were happy with the triplets' health, as they were admitted to the neonatal unit.
The parents were "so excited" to see the boys doing well when they went to see them.
On June 23, "things started to go downill", when he was informed Child O had had a collapse. He said he was thinking the worst, and informed the mother.
He said the moments of seeing Child O die were horrific and something he would never forget. "It felt like a stab in the heart".
"No-one at the hospital had any explanation"
After Child O died, the parents were "extremely concerned". "It was hard to disguise our emotions".
"No-one really knew what to say, it was an awkward silence."
The following morning, the parents were informed Child P was poorly. They were told 'it's happening again'. They "didn't know what was happening", and could see Child P looked worse than before.
"I thought we were going down the same roads we did with [Child O]."
Child P sadly passed away later that afternoon.
"We were pleading with the doctor [at the transport team] to take [the surviving triplet] away with them".
He said it was a terrible situation to be in.
He said they had received no guidance from the Countess in terms of support following the deaths of Child O and Child P.
The father details further problems in the parents' lives took their toll on their mental health.
He said he felt guilty for showing happiness in the surviving triplet's life, that he could not take any joy from it.
He said in the aftermath, he "hit rock bottom". As his life was "slowly improving", news came through of Letby's arrest. He was gobsmacked but relieved there appeared to be some sort of explanation. He said he had believed there was "some form of clinical negligence", but never believed the boys had been "murdered on purpose".
He says he struggles to socialise with friends or family, and finds it difficult to answer the question on how many children he has.
He adds coming to terms with the police investigation has been difficult.
He said he had initially been called as a witness, and seeing Letby for the first time was "extremely difficult".
He said the actions of Letby's text messages and Facebook searches were "in poor taste", and found it difficult to see the mother being "so upset".
"Lucy Letby has destroyed our lives."
He adds the pressure of the trial has been difficult to describe.

 

[lucillem22]

Completely agree, there is no way this witch ill or has no idea what she did. She knows, and she enjoyed it. She’s a bleep that’s all she is. The lowest scum of the earth, don’t deserve to breath, I’d rather rats be treated better, they should have to life in the sewers with all the tit

Very true, she is a devil...

 

[Thegirlwhouk]

It's your time to shine, Gossy. Do those babies and parents proud.

I'm going to go for a walk to clear my head. I'm so glad I heard those, but wow it was hard.

 

[Aberscot]

Anyone got any idea what's likely to be happening in court now that victim impact statements have been read? Will they be having a break until sentencing now?

Break till 12.30 apparently then judge will begin sentencing

 

[F1Grid]

Yes, very true, though the parents of baby Q do get to at least address her in their statement. But they obviously can't mention baby Q and that's heartbreaking.

Baby Q is not the third triplet, he is a completely different baby (I was in court and heard the names, Baby Q is definitely not a triplet).

So unfortunately Baby Q’s parents have not been able to have their say.

 

[varyingborders]

Reading all these statements and seeing how many mothers blame themselves thinking somehow it was their fault, I can’t find the words to describe how heart wrenching it is thinking of all the parents and their families today

 

[gigilouxx]

I really hope they try again for the NG/no verdict cases. They deserve justice, and they deserve their voice heard too

 

[Treesy19]

There is no way she did this for only a year. There is more babies, more families and I hope she is tried for all of them.

Totally agree, Baby A was no way the first death

 

[ClaraPlum]

Heart broken for these parents

 

[catlady29]

The triplets are one of the most chilling to me. Harrowing to hear of the desperation from the father on how he was desperate to get the third child to another hospital and to think LL had written a draft sympathy note for all three. Makes me shudder.

Yea the triplets are the ones who took me off the stupid fence I was sitting on for most of the prosecution part of the trial. She done them simply to get her need for attention from Dr Nn satisfied, ill never forget it that she literally text him moaning that it was rubbish that he was working in another part of the hospital doing patient consultancy or something that day then lo and behold he had to come for crash calls. Disgusting.

 

[amsmall]

Someone just posted about a pristine handover sheet in a rose box....how did I miss that during the discussions? If anyone is up to giving a bit of info about that pls do...

Mr Johnson asks if Lucy Letby wishes to change any of her answers from yesterday. Letby: "No."

Mr Johnson asks if handover sheets were handed out to student nurses.

Letby said she would have handover sheets as a student nurse at some placements, but in the neonatal unit she cannot recall specifically. She tells the court it was not standard practice at the neonatal unit to hand out handover sheets to student nurses "for the time we are talking about".

Mr Johnson says one of the handover sheets, dated June 1, 2010, was in a keep-sake box with roses on the box, when Letby was a student nurse [Letby having started full-time employment at the hospital on January 2, 2012]. Letby says she cannot recall it.

Mr Johnson asks what is "unusual" about the handover sheet, and how it differs from the others.

Letby is unsure what Mr Johnson means.

Mr Johnson: "It is in pristine condition."

Letby: "It's the original?"

Mr Johnson: "Yes."

Letby: "Ok."

 

[lucillem22]

She basically said all those handover sheets she had at home were shoved in her bag and she forgot them.

Prosecution pointed out that she had one handover sheet which was kept in a special decorative box. It was from when she was a student on placement at CoCH’s neonatal unit IIRC, and she had admitted that student nurses did not get given handovers.

Really disturbing.

It is very disturbing, so she could have started killing as early as 2010, isn't Operation Hummingbird reaching that far?

 

[mrs.darcy]

*Edit to opening post - sentencing remarks will being at 12.30*

Oh, makes sense to not have a long gap between the victim impact statements and the sentencing.

 

[daisynoon]

They have discussed having another baby since Child N but the fear of going back into a hospital, and especially a neonatal unit, “has stopped us from doing so”.

Just shows how pervasive her impact was. I really hope this trial gives a form of closure to some of them.

 

[studentgossip]

Come on Boss Goss, send her away for the rest of her miserable life

 

[JCMSadie]

 

[amsmall]

When was the handover note from? Her time on training?

Mr Johnson asks if Lucy Letby wishes to change any of her answers from yesterday. Letby: "No."

Mr Johnson asks if handover sheets were handed out to student nurses.

Letby said she would have handover sheets as a student nurse at some placements, but in the neonatal unit she cannot recall specifically. She tells the court it was not standard practice at the neonatal unit to hand out handover sheets to student nurses "for the time we are talking about".

Mr Johnson says one of the handover sheets, dated June 1, 2010, was in a keep-sake box with roses on the box, when Letby was a student nurse [Letby having started full-time employment at the hospital on January 2, 2012]. Letby says she cannot recall it.

Mr Johnson asks what is "unusual" about the handover sheet, and how it differs from the others.

Letby is unsure what Mr Johnson means.

Mr Johnson: "It is in pristine condition."

Letby: "It's the original?"

Mr Johnson: "Yes."

Letby: "Ok."