it’s hard to transcribe because of how erratically it’s written - it looks to me like she wrote on the same note multiple times and was trying to squash wording into gaps.
One baby was born with same issue as my baby and said she was set for discharge and only had feeding issues. My baby was also never on deaths door and was there for feeding issues. That’s what has made me wonder what else was wrong with that baby to suddenly become ill or what did someone do to her.But one or two of the babies were fine and healthy until LL came into the room and the doctors all thought it was strange and couldn't explain how they suddenly became unwell after doing so well, that's one of the points that gets me
If you were innocent wouldn't you take the stand and try to defend yourself?
Not to jump on you. But the above phrase can be quite hurtful to those of us who have experienced prematurity (**and indeed NICU with a full term baby) and the fear that runs along side it.
Playing Devil’s Advocate here, but could she have been writing down what she thought people would think of her or say about her having just been arrested?
Yes absolutely this.
It's in evidence so it will be used by the prosecution definitely.
It says “killing me”
Sorry I'm a bit behind on the thread so this might already have been answered.
thank you! i looked again and can see that they’re different ink pressures so obviously written at different times. it definitely looks to me like she wrote in stages and was trying to find room to add the additions in.
Im meant to be keeping away from this thread and story but It just keeps drawing me back in!All of this! Also, I thought the deaths were considered surprising by staff and that's what raised suspicions to begin with? In other words, these were mostly cases where the baby was stable and recovering, and their deterioration was out of the ordinary. Is that correct?
If they were fine and healthy they wouldn’t of been in a NICU though, they were still poorly babies and they can change quickly. I think that was an important point made by the defence. There isn’t any evidence that links her to any of these babies deaths (so far) other than her being there. Everything seems very uncertain.But one or two of the babies were fine and healthy until LL came into the room and the doctors all thought it was strange and couldn't explain how they suddenly became unwell after doing so well, that's one of the points that gets me
Also let's not forget, she's allegedly attempted on multiple occasions to harm the same baby/babies on more than one occasion, until they sadly died or were close to death.
I believe so, on some of them they said "born in good condition" obviously the prosecution would suggest that.
You can still be in the NICU and be pretty certain your baby will be coming home (obviously no one can be 100% certain) but it seems these babies were doing very well despite everything going on and the deaths were not expected. I also think some of these babies need more credit yes there is always set backs but a lot of babies these days will come out the other side and just need some extra help so to keep loosing babies one after the other is a bit strange regardless of if she is innocent or not
I agree that there is obviously an issue with how many deaths there were I just don’t agree that they were “fine and healthy”. I feel what we’ve seen so far points to hospital failures rather than the fault of one individual person it’s more of a collective fault. I may change my mind the more evidence we hear but some of the things noted today about the hospital are concerning. The fact that the babies faired better away from the hospital is alarming - could be because of LL or could be because of the team/management etc
Exactly. I’ve thought maybe she wanted the glory of saving them but I don’t feel that now, hearing the evidence. She tried to kill one baby FOUR times. Four times. Went back time and time again.
That’s why I am interested to hear about one of the babies. I know my baby had the same thing and he was never on deaths door but ultimately we were under the care of one of the best uk children’s hospitals. He did need bag mask ventilated due to a morphine overdose however it was dealt with so quick and a report was drawn up about it and an investigation to see if he was brain damaged. there was definitely no one getting the blame or pinned to a murder trial. The hospital it’s self have a lot of answering too but hopefully something will come up in evidence about who or if anyone raised concerns.
