Lucy Letby Case #3

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So Child I had an issue with the tube becoming curled up and displaced - and this happened repeatedly, preventing the air from naturally expelling?
 
What’s with all the transferring back and forth between hospitals? Seems quite a regular occurrence. If a baby has improved at the new hospital, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just keep them there. Surely the transfer itself is a risk?
 
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Sick sick witch I can’t actually read anymore !!! She fuckin smiled that poor mum!
transfer between different levelsof NICU are common. Happened with two of mine
 
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What’s with all the transferring back and forth between hospitals? Seems quite a regular occurrence. If a baby has improved at the new hospital, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just keep them there. Surely the transfer itself is a risk?
Not sure, but assuming they transfer to a unit which takes an even higher level of care and then back when they are more stable so sicker children can use the other unit?
 
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What’s with all the transferring back and forth between hospitals? Seems quite a regular occurrence. If a baby has improved at the new hospital, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just keep them there. Surely the transfer itself is a risk?
I think they were moved to a hospital with more specialist care and then when recovered enough sent back to The Countess, most likely to free up a bed when they no longer needed such care
 
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What’s with all the transferring back and forth between hospitals? Seems quite a regular occurrence. If a baby has improved at the new hospital, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just keep them there. Surely the transfer itself is a risk?
Generally patients would move to a tertiary centre for specialised treatments/procedures, higher levels of care that aren’t provided within that specific unit, but once they no longer need that they normally would be repatriated back to the initial unit. Beds in specialist hospitals/units are normally in higher demand also.
 
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What’s with all the transferring back and forth between hospitals? Seems quite a regular occurrence. If a baby has improved at the new hospital, wouldn’t it be more beneficial to just keep them there. Surely the transfer itself is a risk?
Arrow Park is a level 3 NICU, for higher care needs. Babies who don't require a level 3 facility are usually moved to their local hospital so a bed space isn't taken up unnecessarily.
It's not uncommon to be moved to your local NICU once you don't clinically meet that level of care.
There's a whole network within the North West that take regular transfers to various hospitals
 
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So when the babies moved from the hospital they improved. Not just when they were apart from Lucy?
 
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What the law says and what actually happens are often very different things. With one baby I think baby I they are saying they are not even sure if LL or another nurse was with the baby while her designated nurse went off for a break?
im talking about the police search of the garden.

getting a search warrant and putting the resources into place for that - isn’t easy. The police force responsible would need to justify their decisions to an impartial judge. There’s an extensive paper trail. They’d have had to demonstrate their justification before it could get approved.

then LL’s defence team would have access to all these documents and they will most definitely have gone through them, because if anything on the application process is weak - it makes all subsequent evidence as a result of said search, inadmissible.

there’s no real way they’d do it for show, there are simply too many barriers in place for that to be able to get through and it doesn’t really gain much for them - the judge will instruct jurors to disregard any media they’ve been exposed to.

the police will have had solid and robust justification for searching the garden and drains.
 
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im talking about the police search of the garden.

getting a search warrant and putting the resources into place for that - isn’t easy. The police force responsible would need to justify their decisions to an impartial judge. There’s an extensive paper trail. They’d have had to demonstrate their justification before it could get approved.

then LL’s defence team would have access to all these documents and they will most definitely have gone through them, because if anything on the application process is weak - it makes all subsequent evidence as a result of said search, inadmissible.

there’s no real way they’d do it for show, there are simply too many barriers in place for that to be able to get through and it doesn’t really gain much for them - the judge will instruct jurors to disregard any media they’ve been exposed to.

the police will have had solid and robust justification for searching the garden and drains.
I hear you!!
 
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Reading about Child I is heartbreaking, she came back so many times and fought so hard 💔
this is such a horrible, horrible case. Those poor babies and their families. It’s just all so senseless.

Really praying for the families over the upcoming weeks. This will be pure hell for the all over again.
 
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So she sent child I's parents a sympathy card, and had a picture of it saved on her phone? Well that's sinister.
 
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I asked the same question on the last thread; why wasn’t a thorough investigation started immediately when these incidents happened, all staff removed even, until they ascertained it wasn’t deliberate!!!! Babies being pumped with air to suffocate them, babies found profusely bleeding what the actual duck! And not one person was pulled in? No one called an immediate investigation? To me, she did it, she’s guilty, but the whole disgusting hospital is to blame for letting a killer run free like this for so long!!!!
Well, you could say that the only constant was LL, because that's what prosecution are saying...but apart from her, the medical team was different each time, they may have not known too much about the previous cases.
BUT then where was the communication? If something is unusual, then you make a point of raising it. Especially where a life is concerned.
In any job, you would raise something unusual.

Its only opening speeches, so I'm waiting to hear everything else. It is such an odd case though.
 
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Reading the live feeds ( Judith moritz) on twitter between working and honestly I think she’s guilty !! I don’t even feel like I need to think about it anymore.
 
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I Think it’s not an either or. Both the hospital was massively negligent and she is also a murderer. She should never have been allowed to continue as she did. How did the hospital let this happen? I think she exploited the weaknesses in the hospital
 
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