I think the point that the poster was making was that MBP is an incredibly complex illness and most patients show evidence of this prior to it advancing to a more sinister stage.
I think it depends on context. I don’t think I’m queen of nursing or a superhero or anything but I’ve definitely said that before. 🫣 Aware it sounds patronising or superior now looking back, but I’ve never meant it in that way. Just to reassure anxious relatives, or to encourage them to take a break. I also think nurses are forever not trusted (lots of relatives only want the surgeon caring for the patient 24/7 and to only get updates from doctors or are surprised that we are also educated etc) so maybe there’s a part of me trying to prove that we (I) can be trusted, as often we are the only ones they see for long periods of time, I don’t know…
This is what gets me, thinking of the poor families. The first death happened in 2015, that’s 7 years ago now. In my head I imagine the babies parents accepting their baby died of natural causes and spending years building their lives back up despite grief and trauma. For some parents, this grief may have been the end of their marriage or relationship (I know this is a weird point but my close friend lost her 2 year old child due to hospital negligence - not at all related to this case - and the grief actually lead to her and her husband divorcing). You never get over it but they would have built up a level of acceptance and (I hope) found happiness and new perspectives.
They've only been papped once holding hands.You mean their ADULT DAUGHTER.
I’m sure they needs lots of support but holding hands going in and out of court for six months? No that's not contrived at all
More like they’ve been told to hold hands to make them look like a loving family who couldn’t raise an evil daughter. All part of helping Lucy look better and I don’t care for the aesthetics behind it.
majority of her pictures are all social pictures too, at gigs or out drinking.
She didn't call them in, alarms went off and nurses were alerted and they came rushing in.
I think it’s way too early to say this given we are not even into the evidence yet.
Oh my Gosh Tofino, have you done all of this yourself? This is amazing! You've put so much info on there already!
What is your problem?
My legal experience wasn’t in criminal cases (it was in family law) BUT I’m pretty sure the defence will know exactly what evidence the prosecution has in order to form their defence.
The poster said the midwife asked her permission to tag her and asked for her Facebook details - I was paraphrasing with keeping in touch because another poster said they were also asked to keep in touch. (Having each other’s Facebook details is keeping in touch IMO)
Yes I’d really like to see the monthly morbidity and mortality meeting minutes. Where they go into each death and scrutinise, examine and explain every action. Then grade the care given and see if anything needs following up. Would be interesting for sure.
Not being impatient at all. I know how courts work, I've attended lots of Crown Court trials for lot of heinous crimes, most recently a historic child sexual abuse case. My prediction on the very first day is usually right.
I’m thinking the opposite. Guilty or not she will be found not guilty of murder. In order to secure a murder conviction they’re going to have to prove beyond reasonable doubt that she did this, there’s probably lots of evidence that says she could have done it but they would need solid proof. Forensic evidence wouldn’t exist. I assume no witness will stand up and say they saw her physically do it (that would cause more issues for the witness even if it was true) and finally they would need to provide intent, motive and premeditation. I honestly don’t think it’s possible. They may end up securing a manslaughter charge on the basis of medical negligence perhaps? That’s just my opinion though I’m happy to stand corrected.
My parents have been married 50 years, have 2 grown up daughters, grandchildren and still hold hands daily. As a teenager i found it awkward, as am adult adorable.You mean their ADULT DAUGHTER.
I’m sure they needs lots of support but holding hands going in and out of court for six months? No that's not contrived at all
More like they’ve been told to hold hands to make them look like a loving family who couldn’t raise an evil daughter. All part of helping Lucy look better and I don’t care for the aesthetics behind it.
