I disagree. I had the misfortune to work on a case with a maunchausens sufferer some years ago. They were totally unaware of their diagnosis and it was deemed that it was safer for them that they didn’t know. This person had a habit of seeking medical attention and had been through some pretty traumatic medical procedures to do so. I had to research pretty thoroughly to defend the case and it was mind blowing. The defendant with maunchausens had a bundle of redacted papers that amounted to 13 pages. My bundle of unredacted pages was 300+. I’m convinced there is no maunchausens at play here
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I thought that was sad about the baby crying and screaming! And the Dr said that hed never heard that before on a prem baby. Or words to that effect
Hi you’re absolutely right in actual fact anxiety and lying sometimes goes hand in hand. However the issue here at hand is she stated she didn’t remember at all and denied it (again fine if due to anxiety leading to fear of incriminating her self or being judged, it happens) however it’s more so when she was shown evidence she accepted but didn’t provide a rationale. Thing with lying is may it be little white lies or compulsive lying there is always a rational provided by the individual lying, the intended here did not provide one, on each occasion. Of course details of her interviews aren’t out in full detail so I can not be sure if this was a consistent response or once she accepted it was taken as evidence against her and left at that or probed further. A lot to come find out about this trial yet!Isn't it pretty established that innocent people can behave really oddly in these kinds of high anxiety situations?
I think Amanda Knox is used an example quite a bit? (Ignore this bit if you think she was guilty)
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Yes I’m wondering if I will live to regret taking it on! But I’m motivated as it will help me too.
I will be keeping it as a high level summary, I will probably just leave it at opening statements for prosecution and defence and not get bogged down in the evidence.
I’ve made a start anyway. I’ll ask for the pink button to be added.
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This wiki is about the trial of Nurse Lucy Letby who was charged with the murder and attempted murder of 17 babies at the Countess of Chester Hospital, between June 2015 and June 2016. There are 22 charges in total, 7 murder and 15 attempted murder. Lucy pleaded not guilty to all charges and...
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I would agree. This is not a case of maunchausen or by MH by proxy.
I have said I didn't think a patient would last long to colleagues (it would be expected they would pass at some point in future) you get a feeling in your gut sometimes even before the physical observations start to deteriorate. It's the smell of their body odor , waste It sounds creepy as hell but not uncommon to get that feeling.
how is anything you've just said relevant to this case?
Thank you for doing this. It will be really useful!
Well go me! I have been suffering from the most terrible anxiety for a few months now. I haven’t really spoken to anyone at all. But here I am voicing my opinion. Thank you for letting me join in and making me welcome. It’s the smallest things 
I heard a news channel state yesterday ..
She said SOMETHING LIKE trust me I'm a nurse
So something like not ACTUALLY fact
Can't recall what channel it was but it jumped out at me as media have reported it as verbatim
She said SOMETHING LIKE trust me I'm a nurse
So something like not ACTUALLY fact
Can't recall what channel it was but it jumped out at me as media have reported it as verbatim
The poster never said the nurse asked to stay in touch. The glaringly obvious looks like you’ve already decided LL's guilt without hearing any evidence. Remember, the only difference between those two nurses at the moment is that one’s been accused of terrible crimes.
The point was how facts can be twisted to suit someone’s narrative. God forbid any of us being accused of murder and our posts here being spun negatively.
It will be interesting tomorrow when the defence starts and hopefully we'll get some context, until then????
some people have mentioned maunchausens? Why is your put down relevant?
The Judge has ultimate discretion but I can’t see him doing it any other way than a case of guilty or innocent of each charge.
Maybe someone else will have more knowledge.
Yep...AK is as guilty as they come!Isn't it pretty established that innocent people can behave really oddly in these kinds of high anxiety situations?
I think Amanda Knox is used an example quite a bit? (Ignore this bit if you think she was guilty
This isn’t Law and Order or any other courtroom drama TV series, this is real life. 7 babies are dead and another 15 were assaulted and nearly murdered. There will be no smoking gun moment or a big dramatic turn of events in that courtroom. I am sure there will be surprising evidence brought up, but it will be brought up and used in a factual and respectful manner to try to get justice for those babies who possibly were murdered and assaulted by Lucy Letby.
Wasn't the neonatal ward actually shut down for a time due to the number of deaths? Was this before Lucy became a suspect or after?
I have a question relating to this. If there had been a piece of evidence that was more incriminating, would it have been mentioned already in the prosecution's opening statements? For instance, if she'd searched online for 'how to kill people in hospital' (stupid example, I know) would this have been brought up? Or will details emerge later in the trial?
Whether there’s a work group chat that other nurses joined in on and commented on the babies. Lucy herself raising any concerns at work that were ignored, lack of communication, training or support at work.
I really feel for those parents of the babies having to sit through or listen to the case. It's bad enough and painful enough just listening to the news reports.
They can’t do that though. It’s called disclosure. Letby’s legal team have to be informed in advance of the evidence that will be presented against her in order to form her defence. It’s not like TV where the prosecution pull out some damning evidence or star witness at the final hour. It doesn’t work like that in reality.
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