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karma999

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We need to do more that just this platform then to make people aware, Facebook pages, Instagram pages, Tiktok pages, as much as possible, if we all got our heads together and came up with a plan we could prevent more people getting hurt whether it be financially or mentally by these pair of losers, Thoughts???
I think it should be done!
 
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yabby212

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Who are the bailiffs after… the lemon Llewellyn Davies or the big bullshitting Bentley bellend Rhys Davies or both the tinpot twins?
 
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Spiderplant

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Rhys, for the love of god, what the fuck are you doing!?

Do you not wonder why you have no clients?

Look at the fucking state of you!

Who in their right mind would think that posting a photo of yourself, bent over, with your kecks round your ankles would attract some potential coaching clients!? 🤣

As much as I like to see that you have no work, this really is fucking tragic!
Yep that’s really going to get corporate clients knocking!
Anyone seen all 3 of Rhys’ dogs since his downsizing move?
 
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Apprantly she used to. But i asked what her qualification was. ",i have 25yrs experince"
Yes 25yrs experince of conning people probably. She objects to being challenged.

Maybe he's realised that all the hash tags he uses are useless if your account is private!
Fill ya boots folks.
They have been in birmingham and droitwch today.
More and more gyms in badildon are banning them. What a shame.
They plan to be in Norton Gym Rothetham at end of the month for glutey wear launch.
 
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Thank you. I appreciate you taking the time to read my comments and then share your honest, fair and balanced response.

I never have and never would try to manipulate anybody for financial gain.

As I said on the previous (extremely long) post, I’m more than happy to put people in touch with ex clients of mine.

I’ve never claimed to be some millionaire business coach and sell the dream.

However I do appreciate some of my content could look heading down that path when I was working with Llewelyn.

That was largely because of how he would bully us into acting a certain way as I explained in the post. Sometimes he’d actually write the statuses for me and tell me I had to post them as if it was me.

Looking back - it seems crazy that I allowed it for so long. As I’m not an idiot.

But he was very clever.

And I agree there was a cross over period after leaving where I knew I still wanted to coach and help people. Also I had already told all my current clients at the time that I was leaving Llewelyn and they all stayed working with me and said I was doing the right thing. The comments where that they loved working with me and had bad vibes about him. And they wanted to continue working with me. So I needed to continue to show up and keep things moving forward and evolving….but I also realised I had some “unlearning” to do of how to conduct myself online.

That took a little time and I didn’t always get it right. E.g statuses and videos that are bold, shouty and egotistical.

It took time to rediscover me again. And how I want to conduct myself without somebody constantly telling me what to do.

As I said though, regardless of any of what he did, I have never not delivered on what I’ve promised a client. I’ve always done my very best for a paying client.

And I think the fact I’ve not blocked any of my ex clients and still get lovely comments and messages of thanks etc still today should hopefully say a lot.



I’m sorry you take that viewpoint. As I’ve said in depth on my post it is easy to see it that way when you’ve not been through it first hand.

Yes I’m 31. And yes I’m not an idiot.

But when somebody is very good at gaslighting and manipulation, I believe they have the potential to twist anything to anyone regardless of age or intelligence.

Your response to me really doesn’t take into consideration the reality of what it was like being gaslighted and manipulated over many months.

Being WhatsApp’d and called al day long and eventually completely suffocated.

It doesn’t happen fast. It’s done slowly over time and built up.

At the time of working with the twins I knew nothing of any scams or lies.

The only thing that he admitted was the affair but he twisted thing and explained it very well to make us all be on his side and support him. He also explained having to give refunds for all the courses he did with SA due to people getting the wrong end of the stick and just not liking his coaching style etc.

Again it was all very well twisted so we believed him and supported him.

The key thing here is that none of us knowingly played any part in lying or scamming anybody.

It was only after we walked away that people then contacted us confidentially and we learnt other sides to the story’s and realised some of the real stuff that had happened that we had been in the dark about.

Plus when I didn’t get refunded the £7,500 he owed me that’s when it was clear to me he’s only interested in money and has zero integrity.

At that point, now away from them, it all became clearer how we’d been used to make him look so great and … basically what became clear to me is that EVERYTHING he does is only for his own gain. To me he doesn’t seem to care about anybody other than himself. And that’s sad.

But I did truly believe for some time he had my best interests at heart and genuinely wanted to help people.

Was that naive? Looking back now, clearly.

But again, it can be hard to see it when it’s been built up slowly over time and you’re right in the thick of it.



The responses you’ve made in here tonight are what take away credibility from the people who are on this thread with the good intentions to help raise awareness and to genuinely try stop people being coerced and manipulated.

You’re clearly not here to do that.

You’re clearly here to belittle and mock and “have a laugh” as you’ve said. You don’t have the decency to have a proper conversation or take anything into consideration that doesn’t fit the the fun you’re getting from this.

I genuinely hope you’re ok. Seriously.

That’s pretty shit that you spend your evenings getting kicks out of this thread. Especially if you’re a grown adult. That must mean something in your life really sucks. And for that reason I have empathy for you.
Matt to be honest your lucky you haven’t had a thread about you on here. Because I can see through your smoke and mirrors mate. Because I truly believe you deserve one. And the other two.
 
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Choccydemigod

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Yeah sure you had a bizznus meeting with Dizzy. I bet he came running over to have his photo taken with (arguably) the better looking half of the world famous (almost) not so terrible twin.
 
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Lewellyn Davies limping over and kissing the machine that is 'responsible' for breaking his foot is comedy gold.

We just need another ranting facebook live video from blinking Rhys Davies where he strokes his beard as he waits for his 3 real followers to join, followed by a beg for clients at 50% discount, and our daily dose of laughs will be complete.

Seems Steve 'action taking results driven' Burgess and Pretesh 'leg day' Parmar are the only 2 Tinpot alumni fake scam coaches left from the champions of mind muppet factory. Everyone else has woken up and moved on. I just hope no one is daft enough to sign up with these planks and get taken for a ride.

I see Pretesh has just launched his NEW COACHING PACKAGE on instagram. I wonder if he'll teach you how to stand in front of a whiteboard in his mums spare room and pretend you're speaking to an audience?
Sorry have I missed something what happened to Matt hall he’s still coaching
 
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Qmhc2010

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So I wanted to come on here and share my views as someone that has been a client of Llewy and had dealings with Rhys and back in the day Champions of Mind

I felt it would be good to come on here as Myself as I want to help, I’m tired of seeing these pair attempt to rip others off, and continue to carry on with their unethical, false, misleading manipulative ways with their unethical Coaching, as I experienced this so felt obligated to at least share some my experience

This forum has been good to expose them I think and also allow people to vent, I do believe that the more exposure they can get from accounts from people the better

These two take advantage of the fact people are ‘Silent’ and it plays in to their hands and anyone speaking out only goes against this.

I could write a book on my experience with these two, however I will keep it brief and hopefully it can at least share some insight

I started to work with LD about 4 years ago, Like most people, your looking for help advice and wanting to improve your circumstances,

Llewy Rhys and James Burt AKA Champions of Mind were very prolific on social media, using their well marketed Social media branding and also leveraging their Material objects, cars and ‘Happy Family’ life to leverage and manipulate people in to buying in them and building trust. At the time, I knew no different, trusted him, and just felt like I was doing something good for myself.

Here are some typical plays they did that I experienced

  • Being charged Thousands for coaching packages
  • Being told that I needed them to progress
  • Constant pressure to pay them for their services
  • Over promising and hyping up expectations
  • Love Bombing ‘You’re the next best thing’ and being pedestalled on social media
  • Encouraging you to be coach using their tac tics so you can be a spin off for them and leveraged
  • Having no real direction, plan or journey on place, you was there to be taken for ride while they took what they could from you
Llewy and Rhys have only one mentality – take what they can from anyone using any way they can for as long as possible, they will use any kind of manipulation to ensure that the person is hooked and can keep leaching them

They are only after one thing - Self Gain, with anyone, whether that be Money, Leverage, Sex or Attention.

Their dribble, and exaggerated online persona is just a bi product of their smoke and mirrors to keep a false façade and image and to maintain, and I believe to keep a comfort blanket for what is a very Dysfunctional lifestyle and behaviour, and disillusioned sense of being. Unfortunately people get caught up in between and In its wake it is damaging people who get caught up.

The whole thing wasn’t at all beneficial to me, I was caught up in a very strange and situation, paying someone a lot of money to find a route to my problems. I ignored all the red flags from family people around me aswell as my intuition screaming at me that this situation isn’t right.



Im a very Loyal person and Im trust worthy, however one thing I had to come to terms with was that I was allowing my lack of boundaries, and values in myself to be manipulated. I feel that in any ‘relationship’ with someone whether that be working or romantic, when you allow your Intuition, Values and boundaries to slide you start to loose yourself – it erodes you

However when you realise this, it is a huge way to build that Armour back up

Ive come to realise is that the ‘Life Coaching’ ‘Business Coaching’ is mostly a Hustle. It is an easy route for someone to charge money for a service and sell to people. A lot of people need help and Business is hard, when you see nice marketing its easy to take what looks like a fast route and, like I did, you feel like your doing something beneficial for your circumstances

Im not saying there isn’t ethical and good people out there, there sure is, however anyone seeking help must be lead properly, ethically, through proper framework, and the interest must be taken for the persons progress not their Wallets. Also GDPR and Safeguarding is another Duty of care to think about when dealing with people who are effectively asking for help and are vulnerable.

When I see NLP Practitioner in someones Bio, it immediately shouts Red Flag, it seems a majority of people use this as a gateway to all of a sudden be an expert in solving peoples problems and be paid well for it. All it is a strategy to understand peoples behaviour – Most people use this to market their products other than help people.

I have had experience in Business, I ran a real Business before that turned over a very respectable amount of money, and I know that a lot of these ‘Mentors’ have no idea what its like to even turn over ‘6 Figures’ let alone give people advice.

Also, not too long ago, I was offered some help from a colleague at work to help gain a qualification, and assist on a work project, he kindly off his own back ‘Mentored’ me for a few months, he just offered to help, he got to know me personally, he knew his field and was way more experienced than me. It made me realise that people selling ‘One size fits all’ mentoring to the general public is really selling Old rope, and I don’t believe many people know or realise this. It will never change, people are mostly focussed on making money than solving people’s problems.

I will say that Self Development and Business Development takes time, and not everyone is cut out for Business.

I believe When people come to you for help, you must be trained and aware enough to know if they are at risk and anyone must be aware of safeguarding,

People need framework, just charging for ‘Wise words’ or generic opinions, there is a huge need for more education for people around mental health and optimising health, most people can become happier by just looking after themselves better or just speaking to people for free

Anyone that is seeking services for help, really take time to take a step back and think about what and why your spending money – What is it you actually need? Is the person your asking experience in your field? Do they want to help you or just charge you?

As far as Self Development goes – I don’t believe that Life Coaching is the answer, think about why you need someone to tell you how you live your life?!

I feel it is Band Aid that is covering up issues in people, again I talk from experience. It is a short cut- Spending money thinking that it will save money when really you need to do the Inner work yourself

I would advise to invest in a good PT or Gym, focus on building some personal excellence, start with the basics of living a healthy lifestyle, get around some good people, read some good books study etc. Build up your Self Confidence and Self Awareness, this comes naturally and it’s a constant consistent work in progress. Only you can discover your Inner peace & Confidence not a Life Coach



A few years back I started working with a CrossFit coach from America, I wanted to improve my fitness and its my hobby, he was well known and trained Athletes, although he wasn’t the cheapest in this area, he was drop in the ocean of what these two charged. He was professional, integral and cared about my results, he taught me a lot, and although it was fitness coaching , I learnt more about myself and self development from him than anyone else – It was a breath of fresh air and made me realise how terrible most Coaches are, I even asked him why his services are the most expensive, He didn’t push market me, he didn’t manipulate me, I went to him and he was fair open and transparent. I did my diligence and it worked

Im not saying all Coaches are Bad, but its important to really look in to why you need someone, I speak to some trusted people who ive got to know over years, they help me if I have a problem, they don’t cost thousands of pounds, they never call me for Business telling me I need them. However they help me, and I want to make clear that it is important to still have people who can help you.

Through my own trial error and experience, I found these people and they are not life coaches, they are not NLP Practitioners they don’t push market their brands, they care about people are professional and are not Gurus on social media. Just my experience.

The experience with Llewy/Rhys etc taught me nothing it was a route to a dead end and the journey was nothing more than a ploy to see how long he could sustain me paying him.

You are just ‘Supply’ them, there is no morals or boundaries, they will use manipulation tac tics to keep you there in many different ways.

I once had an incident where I was in a gym with Llewy, Rhys was there also James and Llewy was verbally aggressive to me, It was played down and we carried on. At the end I told him never to threaten me, he then told me I was disrespectful to him for saying that. He did apologise and I was stupid enough to still work with him – A massive red flag ignored.

The relationship with him wasn’t normal, it was a kind of dysfunctional uncomfortable situation, I was paying him a lot of money for help advice, and knew I was involved with a someone not very normal. He mostly was approachable and friendly however there wasn’t any regard for confidentiality for anyone, anything with these guys has an ulterior motive and as silly as it sounds I kind of knew this. The fact they played such a convincing game maybe was the reason I ignored it. They never lead by example and were very hypocritical

At times he would come across like he was your friend, I am not sure if this was part of his play, or he would adopt this because in reality he doesn’t have any friendships outside of people of his ‘Supply’

There was a time when I just could not bring myself to pay him anymore, he in himself knew and we started to loose contact, at this time he had other people and sources around him so I think it didn’t matter to him so much at this time. Communication slowly went, he did try to convince me to come back but I was done, I started to see through bullshit. The last time I had communication was back in 2019 when James Burrt left, he randomly called me for advice, I sensed some strange vulnerability from him, and I didn’t hear from after, then in time came the blocking and no contact.

I very quickly dusted myself from the experience from these, and most more Llewly. I took it for what it was and knew that I had made some very bad judgments paying him and allowing myself to be taken down a path that had zero benefit to me.

As much as I can blame how they was, I had to accept responsibility and Fix what I knew was wrong in myself. It can be a hard pill to swallow, especially knowing that you have been taken advantage of, it’s a case of having some humility and having no choice but to move forward. Dwelling on it wont serve you. The hard pill is the realisation and shame, also frustration, regret and feeling of stupidity.

I leaned in to myself, I focussed on my career, my health my fitness and in a very short space of time become a much better person. Its like having ‘Stain’ on you, you want to get rid of as much as possible because you feel tarnished!

I studied, I learnt and grew more than I could have with Llewy. I also Studied Narcissism, it helped me understand a lot and opened my eyes a lot too, id recommend a you tube channel by Docter Ramani who is an expert on dealing with Narcissism and is great to listen to and relatable

I was fortunate enough to learn a hell of a lot in my Work I do, I started to understand how people learn through frameworks and had to learn a lot about GDPR, Safe Guarding and how to work with people as individuals. This was a huge motivator for me and also it opened up my eyes to the mistakes I made and also how mostly a waste of space the Life Coaching Space is and also helped me grow in myself.

Also I am a Spiritual Person and working on this made me realise a lot about finding Inner Peace and has been a huge tool in own self development.

I will say that I have had no choice but to take some positive perspective from what happened to me, it opened up my eyes a lot and it solidified a lot of personal Values in myself and also personal Boundaries. I see through anything a mile off, in some ways it taught me a hell of a lot

I had no choice but to improve what was missing in myself and I look back now and am incredibly proud of myself and also cannot believe that I was that person naïve enough to get involved with them – In some ways its embarrassing! But I have to take ownership of it. I hold my head up high that im integral. Im not perfect and never will be but Im mile apart from these guys.

I wouldn’t be the person I am now, so I have no regrets, I just have anger that these two can still carry on, because there are some that wont recover from the damage

All I would say to anyone who has been involved with these two – Don’t be hard on yourself, you most likely had good intentions. Get advice and never be ashamed. My view is No one ever will ever bring me down and any experience is good experience I say, because we always learn. Try and remember that. Again, I wouldn’t be the person I am now without learning from my experience. However there is Zero credit to them, it was me that made the choice to improve

That being said, The Pair of these should be ashamed of themselves for the damage they have caused many people and the audacity to keep posting how great they are, is just a reflection on how Narcissistic they are

The false persona online screams very loudly how big your Egos are, yet also very insecure cowardous and in some ways laughable.

Take a big look at yourself, the best thing you can do is seek help for your Narcissistic personality disorder and maybe have the courage to come forward and make up for the many you have ripped off. Show how Ethical you claim to be.

They are a disgrace and everyone can see through it– the constant scamming only has a shelf life and the more you try and damage people it wont end up good, they deserve to be in Prison and I only hope that the sad existence eats at them truly inside.

I think Matt Hall is good for coming on here, I have engaged with him on social media, I wanted to help him not put him down, I hope that he becomes better in himself and if your reading this, give yourself time and be kind to yourself, we all make mistakes, we can live learn and be better

I mentioned James Burrt on here and to be honest I feel that he was caught up in a mess he was trying to navigate through he wasn’t a bad guy, I knew him well enough, I don’t blame him for anything and wish him well

I also feel for the Partners of these two, Georgia Archer is a very Nobel person from a very good and nice family, and I think its best that if anyone knows what’s going on with her situation, permission should be asked before publishing anything, especially if legals are involved and children

Lauren I met but didn’t really know but she seems like a nice enough person, it’s a shame that she was caught up with a child with a toxic individual like Rhys

Im happy to speak to anyone privately if they want some advice, im happy to speak on social media, ill always remain confidential if you choose to engage.

Otherwise, even if this Post creates some awareness then that’s a good thing, I hope this forum can remain helpful as its intention should only be to help people
Really insightful post- Ben is back from the early days with Ben A, Steve B, Haitel, Helen Williams etc.

I remember being in the gym one day and someone was asking Ben A about the whole Champions of Mind thing. To this day, I remember his response:

“Haitel and Steve are my pals. They both made 100k last and I’m going to beat that.”

I can say with some certainty that he did not beat it.
Those guys used to all go to the ‘seminars’ at the Saracens Head in Dunmow- The Six Figure Sit Down sounds as shit as I presume it was.
 
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yabby212

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20 YEARS OF EXPERIENCE would make you 18-19 years old when you started with this coaching thing RHYS DAVIES !

ARE YOU SURE ABOUT THE TIMELINE ???
The bullshitter claims to have been serving in the military then! Notice he didn’t add “professional footballer” to his little roll or honour.
 
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