Well I'm going to have my say, and I know it won't go down very well, so here goes.
I've seen the video and viewed it as Michelle losing control due to the kids playing up. I agree, it doesn't paint M in a good light.
We have heard Junior say on Loose Women how his mum is always slagging off P&E. We have heard what he said to Clare. That's only a fraction of what we know.
She has no boundaries in place and let's those children do whatever they want. She will be constantly slagging of K&M and saying how they stopped them living with her, and going on holidays etc. She will be asking them questions and it will be a constant thing when they came bqck from visits (willow confirmed she did this with J&P).
She doesn't filter her conversations even though they are young children. She doesn't curb the language even if it's of a sexual nature. She has always swore in front of all her kids. Pete used to tell her off for this.
What M did was wrong, but sadly it's not out of the ordinary for them. They are used to far worse. They see and hear much worse than this. I think it much be exceptionally hard to keep them inline and try to put boundaries in place when they are left to their own devices at home.
Amy says that those children see and hear things with KP that they shouldn't.
Now for my unpopular opinion, I don't like Kieran, and I wouldn't trust him as far as I could throw him. And I know this won't go down well, but it's how I feel. However, I do strongly feel that those children should be placed with him.
KP and all her cronies think that everyone on Tattle is in his camp. That we all back him. I don't. But I do think he's a very good father and that's what's important.
Any idiot can see the difference in those children's lives compared to now. And that's why I think they should be placed with him.
And, I do believe that M probably doesn't want them full time. I can't imagine how difficult it must be to try and instil boundaries when there aren't any in place with their mother.
J&P wouldn't be the people they are today if it wasn't for PA. I don't think he's all innocent either, but he's a bloody good father..
Kp is a terrible mother. She has always put self care before everything else.
I do think that K was up to his old tricks and forwarded that video for sympathy. This obviously got around the village and eventually made its way to KP. Which we had posters telling us this at the time. I also think that M knew about this, hence the comments on IG at the time.
Cannot imagine why that would be............................
k really happy.
everything that can be said has been said, people could take this over to the KH thread if they want to continue saying the same thing. but can we please go back to slagging the deformed mutilated freakshow that is Katie price off 
