Jack Monroe #54 Thank you so Matt much, Matt

[Nottonightbabe]

She's really narked about that article that posted photos of her fancy house isn't she? Trying to explain it away by claiming it was mostly photos of the same room but she just likes to move furniture around a lot

Although, I guess when you do regularly have Smeg fridges and expensive sideboards arriving that need squeezing in... Maybe... she's not lying (sit down for now Jimmy).

 

[Cuileann]

This is a super weird thing to zone in on, but the pictures...

Didn't she say she had to write her book on an old Nokia? So, unlikely to have a camera and if it did, back then it wouldn't have produced the quality of photos she's posted on the blog. Those were grainy as duck.
Which suggests that a) she had a much better phone than she is claiming,, b) she owned a digital camera or c) she was paying extortionate amounts to get film developed. I'm not sure, but the photo of SB kiiiind of has that look about it?

At any rate, as always, huge exaggerations on how little she had as a and b could've been sold, and c is so expensive.

 

[Breakdance Badass]

I’m wondering if Sue Perkins was round at hers last night giving her mojitos again?

 

[FlashBoof]

The latest ramblings have been shared into my Twitter timeline at least twice this morning with effusive praise attached. It’s so depressing. I know these people haven’t a clue, so just take her version at face value. What is really depressing is that they seem to think her style of flowery Adrian Mole writing is great. And that they at least don’t see that it is extremely self centred, with no real relevance to today’s challenges.

I agree, the witterings have been brewing for at least a few days....ARM just gave her a good hook to hang it on. It’s also very much a retort to some of the stuff highlighted here.

I hope her son is out of the way at the moment.

 

[AmberSpyglass]

When I used to frequent Mumsnet and celebrities died; David Bowie for instance , there would be lots of what I called ‘competitive grieving’, everyone was much more upset than the last poster and none of them really gave thought to the notion that the family were the truly grief stricken .

Jack Monroe sees herself as the top dog of competitive poverty and will never let anyone steal her crown , she earned it and will dine out ( literally) for as long as she can stretch it out.

 

[Lanie]

This is a super weird thing to zone in on, but the pictures...

Didn't she say she had to write her book on an old Nokia? So, unlikely to have a camera and if it did, back then it wouldn't have produced the quality of photos she's posted on the blog. Those were grainy as duck.
Which suggests that a) she had a much better phone than she is claiming,, b) she owned a digital camera or c) she was paying extortionate amounts to get film developed. I'm not sure, but the photo of SB kiiiind of has that look about it?

At any rate, as always, huge exaggerations on how little she had as a and b could've been cold, and c is so expensive.

How old is old in Nokia terms. I remember the real old ones used to have a character limit and sometimes I couldn't even finish a text in one message as I ran out of space.

I don't understand how she saved it either did she has a phone full of message drafts??
I loved to ask her about it sometime as I genuinely would love to know how she managed it. My old nokias were tit in comparison to hers then?

 

[live laugh loathe]

De-lurking (and making my first post!) after reading since circa thread #4.... it’s been wonderful reading all of the threads. What a fab group you all are. Former jack fan here (I have three of her books) and been appalled at her behaviour - the scales have really fallen away from my eyes. Thank you all!

 

[acca00]

OT - but sorry I can't bleeping stand Sue Perkins......

 

[Ac789]

The thing that has always bugged me is her blaming benefits problems or austerity for having to move house 27 times or whatever it was. Seriously how does that happen. 27 times? It is monstrously expensive to keep moving if nothing else

 

[PoorPatrol]

Erm, I’ve noticed in all the poverty porn pics she posted, that she doesn’t only have one plate/spoon/bowl/bullshit whatever. Remember how she told us, in her fictional poverty wankablog, that she’d gotten down to only one of everything, cos of poverty innit.

Her son wearing a jumper! Wow! I can’t tell you how many pictures I’ve got of my children sitting on wooden floors, with bare feet and a jumper on. It’s totally bleeping normal!!

I wish I could send her blog to one of my old university tutors. Mate. Ruthless. Totally bleeping ruthless, he was. He would send me back my (actual) essays with whole chunks highlighted in red with just words like ‘pointless’ or ‘reductive’ or ‘stick to the materials’ and it would make my stomach sink, faster than you can say “more jam please mummy”. That load of waffle she posted wouldn’t have even gained a pass with him I’m telling you! What a load of senseless drivel, what was even her point? Why single out AR-M? If she had a coherent point to make about poverty, it wouldn’t have been necessary! By definition, an essay needs to have an introduction which is an outline of a question/argument, an explanation with concise points in the body of the text, and a conclusion, plus references to show you’re not talking absolute tit! That was just a self indulgent stream of consciousness... a bit like this post

 

[YellowSticker]

If she's been tweeting all night, I'm assuming today will be spent sleeping. Does she ever do any actual child care?

 

[JanQi]

Another lapsed Jack fan here. I've been lurking and (trying to) catch up on these threads for a couple of weeks and my eyes have been opened. I first heard about her when she did the original Guardian article about living on £10 a week. I was a broke student and I actually found her early recipes really useful and had no reason to doubt her story. I relied heavily on her first book and actually quite liked the peach curry for a time (sorry fraus). I even bought it for other people who I knew were struggling.

I started to feel uncomfortable when she came out as trans and then changed her mind. Then came the seemingly endless stream of ailments and problems. Then when I realised she seemed to have lost fiance #3 I Googled her and ended up here.

In my defence, I don't use Twitter and only ever saw her Instagram posts so I didn't get the full picture of how awful and rude she is to people and to be honest I'm a little embarrassed at how complimentary I've been of her in the past.

 

[PoorPatrol]

OT - but sorry I can't bleeping stand Sue Perkins......

 

[acca00]

Shan't!

 

[Cuileann]

How old is old in Nokia terms. I remember the real old ones used to have a character limit and sometimes I couldn't even finish a text in one message as I ran out of space.

I don't understand how she saved it either did she has a phone full of message drafts??
I loved to ask her about it sometime as I genuinely would love to know how she managed it. My old nokias were tit in comparison to hers then?

I just looked up the one she said she had and it's good deal fancier than the brick type. Trying to find out how much it would've cost in 2012 and failing.

Interestingly. I was in my final year of uni in 2012 and still had a brick. Bit of a variation from my mates (who all had iPhones and whatever) but it worked for me and I don't claim poverty.

 

[moldwarp]

Most people who have grown up poor or lived through long period of being truly skint would never buy the ridiculously expensive items she has. She's right, those memories never leave you. That's just another little nugget of info she has picked up over time to make herself sound credible. What's wrong with a medium-range fridge that is decent and does the job? What about one pair of Samsung earphones instead of two pairs of Airpods? People with poverty PTSD don't behave this way when they start earning "a living wage"

This is so, so true. It’s been a good 15/20 years since I was scarily poor and I’m still pretty frugal (as my partner often points out to me). Not stupidly so but just normal things like buying a capsule wardrobe and making clothes last for years, furniture, linen and household goods all decent quality but low to mid range, never wasting food, not really a jewellery person etc. No big flashy purchases unless the extra cost is necessary. What I’m saying is that I have the habit of buying things that are useful and making them last by looking after them carefully until they wear out and need replacing. No fast fashion, spree shopping etc. It’s a habit that people either learn early on due to their upbringing or they don’t.

on the Mail expose, other fraus are right in saying that JM is not famous enough for the Mail or any other mainstream publication to invest legal fees into defending. Also to do a proper expose they would need to be able to make the real facts stand up eg if they said she was never really poor, they’d have to have actual receipts of that that were legally watertight and there are none. She also deletes her tweets a lot and I know we keep some of them but they’re not going to just rely on a gossip site. Journos come here for ideas to investigate, not to make stories stand up.

The only shed get exposed is if someone who knew her in childhood / early life wrote a blogpost like what happened with Jameela Jamil. But most people don’t have the time or inclination to do that sort of thing and blogs can be easily dismissed

 

[Begborrowsteal]

OT - but sorry I can't bleeping stand Sue Perkins......

Me too

 

[CottageWitch]

I believe her tale about getting kicked out the Ivy for singing.

After all this is the girl who thinks she can sing Celine Dion perfectly. I bet she was caterwauling and showing off and thinking everyone loved it, then got the boot for making everyone’s ears bleed.

In her mind though, she got the boot for being too working class.

Now I've never been to the Ivy (bc I ain't posh innit) but it strikes me that in such a high end establishment you just...wouldn't behave like this? Like yes okay she was celebrating which is absolutely fair enough, but drinking too much and clattering around and singing when the Ivy presumably has musicians there? At risk of sounding like a snob it's just...not how things are done? I've had cocktails in some nice places where I had to dress up nice and could only afford one drink, I went with mates just for the fun of it and to do a bit of cheeky celeb spotting not because it's a regular occurrence, and I would NEVER dream of acting so awfully in a classy joint. Even if I didn't consider myself classy on a day to day basis, you just know how to act in different social settings surely? Her lawyer must have been bleeping mortified to have taken her there

 

[AmberSpyglass]

The thing that has always bugged me is her blaming benefits problems or austerity for having to move house 27 times or whatever it was. Seriously how does that happen. 27 times? It is monstrously expensive to keep moving if nothing else

Liar Liar, her poverty pants are on fire.

 

[Begborrowsteal]

Now I've never been to the Ivy (bc I ain't posh innit) but it strikes me that in such a high end establishment you just...wouldn't behave like this? Like yes okay she was celebrating which is absolutely fair enough, but drinking too much and clattering around and singing when the Ivy presumably has musicians there? At risk of sounding like a snob it's just...not how things are done? I've had cocktails in some nice places where I had to dress up nice and could only afford one drink, I went with mates just for the fun of it and to do a bit of cheeky celeb spotting not because it's a regular occurrence, and I would NEVER dream of acting so awfully in a classy joint. Even if I didn't consider myself classy on a day to day basis, you just know how to act in different social settings surely? Her lawyer must have been bleeping mortified to have taken her there

Shes so entitled though, I can definitely see her acting a prick