Or Cabinet Rooms?Groucho?
Or Cabinet Rooms?Groucho?
It's got to be Big Dave surely, chips didn't stand by the road hitchhiking in humiliating trousers to earn a crust.Daddy or chips
Agreed.anyone crowing they're an alcoholic without being one just to gather sympathy is very sick. Not only sick but despicable.I mean, it depends on the person right. I’ve known and sponsored alkies who were at times drinking near to or at the level Jack claims. But they were truly fucked from it. Women get fucked from alcohol much faster than men because were smaller, higher proportion of fat to muscle, blah blah blah. Jacks alkie boasting makes me pretty sick tbh.
I can hear Chas and Dave singing it to the tune of “Why don’t you give it a rest” - maybe with “Grift it, scam it, grift it, scam it, scam it, grift it “ in place of rabbit, rabbitIf this isn't a song already, it should be.
Like the music on ‘homes under the hammer’Doesn’t she usually have a directly related poem to wistfully quote to herself whilst performatively carrying out a task?
She is such a bleeping attention seeking throbber isn’t she, and she always has been.Yes, and isn’t this person who grinds corn now our Queen TD?
I happen to think she had the measure of Jack a very loooong time ago.
5 feet 1 and 3/4?V confusing. Same with butter - how big is a knob?
tit, beaten to it- great minds DinoAbout 5ft 1 I think
Imagine if she did that all through her childhood like some kind of Damien from Omen.She really does a lot of that, doesn't she? Heavily implying that people upsetting her in any way are going to LITERALLY KILL her. It's become funny to us because she does it so often but it's also a bit disturbing, isn't it? Nobody should be wheeling out "if you don't stop this relatively harmless thing I will DIE and it'll be YOUR fault" against anyone, let alone Twitter users they know nothing about. There's always a chance that she really will die (not a threat, Jack, just noting that nobody is immortal) and then who gets the blame? The last person to have quote-tweeted something with a joke about potatoes? You just LITERALLY MURDERED someone, how could you?
It's a slightly more complicated version of "if you don't do what I want I'll kill myself" but that's what it amounts to, isn't it? Never quite phrased as a threat but very much implying that any unwanted comment could be the one that causes her untimely death. Luckily we can help prevent it by attacking any dissenters and offering Jack praise and money.
imho the entire JM/KH court case was a hugely embarrassing shitshow for both parties. The epitome of a frivolous sleb squabble. Complete waste of the courts time. Frankly Jack has form for slagging her military brother in public and for casting shade on the trappings of the British state which presumably is also embarrassing to her military family . So it all felt a bit frivolous and vexatious to me. But a judgements a judgement. It’s just not the huge victory for democracy and fairness that her enablers made it out to be.Ok my dudes, I’ve had a chance to have a quick read through the judgment. Spoilering for length and because this is OLD NEWS to some/for anyone who wants to skip past. Apologies for any typos and Yankee Doodle dandy spelling of words I didn’t catch. On my telefono typing
So this is from the Judge’s summary. The Hopkins/Penny stuff actually kicked off the day before this. This is where KH brought Jack into it (Note Jack’s behaviour here- anything look familiar?!)Jack demands that KH deletes the tweet, massively amplifies it, keeps gloating and pushing the issue. Note that KH did in fact delete the first of her two tweets about Jack and eventually posted a super perfunctory tweet @ Jack into it and saying she got it wrong but not apologizing. Legal case proceeded from here.
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Damages, more deletionSo (again, anything sounding familiar?!) as part of her case for harm and therefore damages, Jack claims to have received a “torrent” of vitriol including “vile and abusive comments” and “death threats” as a result of KHs Tweets. Here’s the thing though; these types of tweet have “for the most part have been deleted”.
Therefore, Jack produced little evidence of this. She provided “a selection of abusive tweets” some of which the judge notes were clearly nothing to do with KHs posts, and others of which seemed “unlikely” to have been so. So basically she struggles to produce much in the way of abusive tweets and what she does cobble together the Judge isn’t buying that it’s to do with KH.
Jack’s own Twitter hadinconveniently thrown any evidence (or not) of these mystery abusive tweets into the North Seadeleted these types of tweet (or not, everything had been deleted it was impossible to know if it had ever been there in the first place- or not) by Jack setting up a deletion function then “forgetting about” it. The judge notes this.
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Jack also makes claims about the large of people who saw KHs tweet/commented/retweeted it etc, but as she demanded KH (and KH actually did) delete this tweet, the judge does note all the analytics info and evidence is lost.
Ultimately, as you know, Jack won a relatively small judgment, £24,000 total. (the Judge notes max possible was £300,000). Basically, the Judge notes here that part of the issue is with the way “the defence has been conducted”, ie if KH had given a duck and shown up to testify/engaged with her defence team appropriately in any part of the case, or actually said sorry long before it got to court, things might have been different. As has been noted elsewhere here, the Judge also comments that this should have been resolved long before it got to court (and not wasted a tit ton of time and money). Nobody came out of this looking good, though in the aftermath, in the eyes or people who exalted Jack for ‘sticking it to’ Hopkins she became a bizarre lefty hero.
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The Judge had the below to say at the very end. (note here’s the ref to KHs analytics I described above). Judge is clearly unimpressed with Jack though. “Difficulties over disclosure” of evidence ESPECIALLY ON JACK’S SIDE. Judge doesn’t go into whether they think that was deliberate or not “I am not able to attribute responsibility for that on the basis of the evidence, and I do not”, but says that regardless, litigants are responsible for producing evidence and not going on sprees to mass get rid of s whether accidentally or on purpose.
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Edit: the link to the whole ruling again so all in one place.Caveat again that my background isn’t UK law . Jack and her case come across poorly throughout. Hopkins’s was worse. MY PERSONAL TAKE is the Judge took on board that she was from a military round the edges family so KH claim was more hurtful to her feelings. Had KH bothered at any time to engage, it would not have gone that way though and should never have gone to court. Judge was clearly unimpressed with both parties.
Jack would NEVER get away with this again. She has much, much more form for threatening legal action, exacerbating situations, amplifying them to her hundreds of thousands of followers etc, exhalting in what she might win. What didn’t seem to be a pattern at the time of her continuing to poke at KH and amplify matters is certainly one these days and any legal team or Judge would have evidence of that.
Finally, she certainly hasn’t taken on board the part of the ruling that says she shouldn’t delete potential evidence. So she should be very wary of following this ‘clever playbook’ that got her to her last triumph, because it was an idiotic one.
She's a typical attention-seeking me me me narcissist and people like her make me sick. I can't help but wonder how many followers, or those who read her twitter page (or those of us on here) who are either dreading the thought of, or awaiting the results of scans, etc, for genuinely worrying conditions. Not only does her scrounging and shameless grifting have to stop, but her alluding to serious illnesses has to be questioned and investigated also, because that offends me the most. And if she's doing it for attention purposes, I have to say, as someone actually fearful of such scans & results and every day dreading a call from the doctor myself, I'll admit now that I hate the witch.Both probably. I can’t believe she’d be so blasé about actual real heart attacks. Horrible to put your family through that.
Not an original take on anything ever. Go Jack, you plagiarist.Oh Jack has indeed read andstolenlearned from Salt Fat Acid Heat, dear heart
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They must’ve been thrilled to see her after phoning her in 2017 to check on her!Groucho?
And I love the lot of you - frauen, herren, therren, lads, guys - Sir, Madam, Neuter (Kryten quote!).Some of us fraus aren’t even German!
That Guardian article says she was drinking 122 units a week, she later upped it to 200. I do not believe the 200. She is a smallish woman. She would be permanently disabled or dead.
Remember when she was thanking the Queen for her service, then threatened the King then perved over Harry in mourning dress uniform at the Queens’ lying in state? I’m no monarchist but I found it distasteful. But yeah full on military family Who fight for crown and country.imho the entire JM/KH court case was a hugely embarrassing shitshow for both parties. The epitome of a frivolous sleb squabble. Complete waste of the courts time. Frankly Jack has form for slagging her military brother in public and for casting shade on the trappings of the British state which presumably is also embarrassing to her military family . So it all felt a bit frivolous and vexatious to me. But a judgements a judgement. It’s just not the huge victory for democracy and fairness that her enablers made it out to be.