Jack Monroe #416 Food Hero? LMAO, should be in the dock for crimes against pasta.

Helena Handbasket · Oct 17, 2022

Forensic fraus/herrs: Has she said she got a 25k advance for a book at one time? If my memory serves in the same tweet or blog post/article she says that’s why she buys herself a luxury item as a treat and as insurance against the pov times coming back again.
This has been really playing on my mind because I don’t know anyone who has or is currently saving for a house who wouldn’t immediately use it as a deposit on a mortgage. We were so tight and stingy when we were saving-if it wasn’t absolutely essential to life or the kids we didn’t buy it. Neither of us bought any new clothes except the odd pack of pants or socks for a year because we rightly recognised we had plenty to last us and if anything got really necessary to replace we could. We just didn’t want to because we wanted to see our pot building. We sold everything in every crap drawer, I sold books, clothes, shoes, homewares on eBay, car boots etc and I didn’t give a bean to charidee.
The idea one of us would have said ‘look I’m gonna buy these £500 ridiculous traazers but we can always sell them again don’t worry’ is crazy to me.
Jack must’ve been planning to buy her house outright because even if she got another 25k tomorrow she’d still be refused a mortgage as she couldn’t show 3 years of self-employment profits or her salary to prove she could actually pay the mortgage. The grift is the game.

Geetbo · Oct 17, 2022

Does she have a 1W microwave or something? The dear frau who microwaved a plum in the name of forensic canal research still makes me hoot.

moldwarp · Oct 17, 2022

Rekyavikgirl said:
I think people who are struggling deserve better. It makes me sad that her recipes are marketed at them. I keep saying this.

Well, strictly speaking they aren’t marketed at struggling folks at all. They’re marketed at privileged cosplayers and well meaning mugs who want to feel like they’re making a difference and the odd Jack-fancying neckbeard. But yes, I see what you mean and I do agree.

Geetbo · Oct 17, 2022

Helena Handbasket said:
Forensic fraus/herrs: Has she said she got a 25k advance for a book at one time? If my memory serves in the same tweet or blog post/article she says that’s why she buys herself a luxury item as a treat and as insurance against the pov times coming back again.
This has been really playing on my mind because I don’t know anyone who has or is currently saving for a house who wouldn’t immediately use it as a deposit on a mortgage. We were so tight and stingy when we were saving-if it wasn’t absolutely essential to life or the kids we didn’t buy it. Neither of us bought any new clothes except the odd pack of pants or socks for a year because we rightly recognised we had plenty to last us and if anything got really necessary to replace we could. We just didn’t want to because we wanted to see our pot building. We sold everything in every crap drawer, I sold books, clothes, shoes, homewares on eBay, car boots etc and I didn’t give a bean to charidee.
The idea one of us would have said ‘look I’m gonna buy these £500 ridiculous traazers but we can always sell them again don’t worry’ is crazy to me.
Jack must’ve been planning to buy her house outright because even if she got another 25k tomorrow she’d still be refused a mortgage as she couldn’t show 3 years of self-employment profits or her salary to prove she could actually pay the mortgage. The grift is the game.

Babe, same x

I bought my first house in March and half my pants had holes in the crotch. Every penny went towards the deposit.

Helena Handbasket · Oct 17, 2022

Lazarus said:
BiB: what in the skin grafting is this referring to?

A microwave brownie with a molten core of jam. Perfect for children’s parties.

Duckypoo · Oct 17, 2022

Rekyavikgirl said:
I think people who are struggling deserve better. It makes me sad that her recipes are marketed at them. I keep saying this.

I came upon her oeuvre when I was in my own poverty. £30 for a family of 5 per week. Her slop was expensive and disgusting, I am a competent cook but the amount of additional things it took to make it edible?

I went back to my Jamie Oliver and Nigel Slater, nothing fancy but recipes that worked with the substitutions my budget demanded. Almost like they'd worked on their recipes, gone through testing and tweaks... really makes you think.

Slight tangent - how incensed would Jackie be if I met the next Mr Duckypoo here instead of hinge? Imagine it, Canal wedding all in our court outfits

Hollaaa · Oct 17, 2022

Helena Handbasket said:
A microwave brownie with a molten core of jam. Perfect for children’s parties.

I'm calling the CPS!

AndrewsDaddy · Oct 17, 2022

Nottonightbabe said:
Thing is, in that particular article she's adamant she never bought alcohol to drink when poor, but would use the odd can in a stew. If you were in 'extreme poverty' as she put it, you wouldn't be doing that either. Why would you spend some of your precious food budget on a 4 pack - basics range or not - when you could flavour your food in other, cheaper ways?

Especially if cooking for a toddler, if you had a spare £1 to spend on a value beer you’d buy some sweets or ketchup or biscuits - toddlers aren’t big beef and ale fans

Mr Krabs · Oct 17, 2022

Helena Handbasket said:
Forensic fraus/herrs: Has she said she got a 25k advance for a book at one time? If my memory serves in the same tweet or blog post/article she says that’s why she buys herself a luxury item as a treat and as insurance against the pov times coming back again.
This has been really playing on my mind because I don’t know anyone who has or is currently saving for a house who wouldn’t immediately use it as a deposit on a mortgage. We were so tight and stingy when we were saving-if it wasn’t absolutely essential to life or the kids we didn’t buy it. Neither of us bought any new clothes except the odd pack of pants or socks for a year because we rightly recognised we had plenty to last us and if anything got really necessary to replace we could. We just didn’t want to because we wanted to see our pot building. We sold everything in every crap drawer, I sold books, clothes, shoes, homewares on eBay, car boots etc and I didn’t give a bean to charidee.
The idea one of us would have said ‘look I’m gonna buy these £500 ridiculous traazers but we can always sell them again don’t worry’ is crazy to me.
Jack must’ve been planning to buy her house outright because even if she got another 25k tomorrow she’d still be refused a mortgage as she couldn’t show 3 years of self-employment profits or her salary to prove she could actually pay the mortgage. The grift is the game.

Won’t she have to start again if she wants proof of income for a mortgage? She’s just dissolved a company, so will be a sole trader, and I couldn’t see her getting a mortgage based on that.

If only she’d just let that broker massage her bunions, she’d be in her forever home by now.

Lazarus · Oct 17, 2022

Geetbo said:
Babe, same x

I bought my first house in March and half my pants had holes in the crotch. Every penny went towards the deposit.

Dear Geet, never would I have had you down as someone who had pants like a mechanics cloth.
I hope the house was/is worth it!

Geetbo · Oct 17, 2022

Lazarus said:
Dear Geet, never would I have had you down as someone who had pants like a mechanics cloth.
I hope the house was/is worth it!

Ive treated myself to a whole new set now tender one x

I won't post photos like the old days with the socks, as I may be banned x

Phillipa78 · Oct 17, 2022

Geetbo said:
Average is very generous. I've seen more voluptuous ironing boards.

Badonka-honk.

jenny2603 · Oct 17, 2022

The jokeification of Jack continues...

Valiofthedolls · Oct 17, 2022

Hollaaa said:
I wonder if there's a transcript of the so-called character assassination in court. I'm wondering if it was just a load of truths, possibly in her own words read back to her, à la Molly. Both the judge and this journalist seemed to have the measure of her.

Judgments and civil law transcripts are publicly available so it should be accessible. Here’s the judgment itself.

https://www.judiciary.uk/wp-content/uploads/2017/03/monroe-v-hopkins-2017-ewhc-433-qb-20170329-rev-1.pdf

Here’s info I found on how to get transcripts.

Apply for a transcript of a court or tribunal hearing

How to get a transcript of a hearing: restrictions, how to apply, costs, complaints

www.gov.uk

If it’s in the National Archives it will be free, otherwise applying to the court itself will have a cost. I haven’t read the judgment or looked at this properly yet to see if it’s in the archives as I am BUSY with a meeting starting soon but when I catch up later if no-one’s had chance to look, I’ll have a proper look. If someone does look, you can find the case number and the court name on the judgement. That will help you look for it in the National Archives search page

Structured search - Find case law - The National Archives

caselaw.nationalarchives.gov.uk

Note my background isn’t UK law

so UK legal fraus please correct any and all of this info if inaccurate. I do remember a legal education frau a bit back saying their students were studying the case so they may have info too. Be warned, that transcript will be L-O-N-G!!!

Hollaaa · Oct 17, 2022

@Valiofthedolls you forensic genius! I'm BUSY on holiday so can't give this discovery the attention it deserves but will get stuck in once I'm home, unless another frau beats me to it.

Five hundred dogs · Oct 17, 2022

Helatruralhome said:
I don't know why but that skinny ponytail wrapped round her forehead makes me irrationally angry

That’s hair? I’ve seen those pics before but I always thought she was wearing one of those twee little flowery headbands that were all the rage with girls at festivals a few years ago. Where does it start? Where does it end? Is it her fringe? So many questions but mostly why?

Rekyavikgirl · Oct 17, 2022

That ratty ponytail looks like something I pulled from my dog's arse after he's been in the bins

DinosaurSenior · Oct 17, 2022

I think a lot of the court case is available via LexisNexis, if you have an academic login. I'll have a rummage when I'm back at work

Valiofthedolls · Oct 17, 2022

Helena Handbasket said:
Forensic fraus/herrs: Has she said she got a 25k advance for a book at one time? If my memory serves in the same tweet or blog post/article she says that’s why she buys herself a luxury item as a treat and as insurance against the pov times coming back again.
This has been really playing on my mind because I don’t know anyone who has or is currently saving for a house who wouldn’t immediately use it as a deposit on a mortgage. We were so tight and stingy when we were saving-if it wasn’t absolutely essential to life or the kids we didn’t buy it. Neither of us bought any new clothes except the odd pack of pants or socks for a year because we rightly recognised we had plenty to last us and if anything got really necessary to replace we could. We just didn’t want to because we wanted to see our pot building. We sold everything in every crap drawer, I sold books, clothes, shoes, homewares on eBay, car boots etc and I didn’t give a bean to charidee.
The idea one of us would have said ‘look I’m gonna buy these £500 ridiculous traazers but we can always sell them again don’t worry’ is crazy to me.
Jack must’ve been planning to buy her house outright because even if she got another 25k tomorrow she’d still be refused a mortgage as she couldn’t show 3 years of self-employment profits or her salary to prove she could actually pay the mortgage. The grift is the game.

Yep, she sure did! She got that for her very first book, widely reported, she’s never corrected it. In fact, she blames it for her almost getting evicted.