Jack Monroe #216 What a life. What a strange, glorious, unimaginable life.

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I should never have opened Tattle when I couldn’t sleep at 2.30…

Things that are now bothering me about the article.

1. had she not worn colour for months in March?
2. was she underweight when she went in to the rehab facility this March (I know there were issues last year, but this year she has looked well).
3. are we totally to blame for her breakdown/coming off the wagon last year?
4. is social media/likes really not a big deal to her any more?
5. Is eating copious amounts of tinned fish something they teach you on a nutrition course?
6.
Should a 10/11 year old be brought to an AA session (honest question here- I would have thought that if children were involved and found to be affected by their parent’s alcoholism then they should go to a specific therapeutic environment )?

There are more, but at the moment I am reeling.
My view is no. I was a member of a group who held an open meeting and some people would occasionally take their kids, mostly for childcare reasons.


The danger with that age is they will understand most things and is it fair that alcoholics should dilute their share because there’s a minor there? I don’t think so. its not fair for the parent to possibly have to dilute their share either. It’s also disruptive - at that age they could sit with headphones on and watch something in their phone but if they don’t have that, it’s boring so they might go in and out to the toilet etc.

This happened in my area, someone took his teenage daughter to a meeting and her teacher was in the meeting! I don’t know what the fall out of that was but I can imagine.

Alateen is where the kids could go. Anything else is not going to help them imo.
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Again I must stress that I haven’t read anything but I’m really bleeping annoyed! It’s always someone else’s fault with Jack and along with the outrageous lies (honesty in ALL your affairs), the grifting, the living in the past, the sardine fetish etc etc, THAT is why I read and comment here.

It may be a conundrum to some that a person who works the 12-Step programme would get involved here. I mentioned it before, someone questioned that I was a member because I didn’t believe the amount of alcohol someone with a thread on here said they drank. I was told - paraphrasing - that an alcoholic wouldn’t do that, but I disagree. Being an alcoholic doesn’t mean you believe everything someone tells you, in AA or not. And it doesn’t mean you can’t call people out when you believe them to be untrue.

@Orphan_Black I know how you feel, I had that same “ooh look what you lot have done to me”. But I purposely wouldn’t say anything here that I wouldn’t say to someone’s face. Being alcoholic, mentally ill, addicted to something else does NOT excuse people for crappy behaviour. I think Jack a million percent thinks it does and that’s why places like here exist!! She maybe needs to branch out to some of the other threads, they’re savage - some folk are more than happy to troll someone on SM, reveal where they live etc.

Adjust your behaviour Jack and give us nothing to talk about.
 
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What a load of self indulgent bollocks.
That should be the next thread title. This is another classic Jack me me me article, nothing to be seen or learnt from. More rehashing of tit that probably happened a tiny bit but blown up into another pity party.
Oh, and when were 'the vegan years'?
The title of the essay should have been My Obsession With Tattlelife (and why I hate not being able to control the narrative).
I will believe Jack is making a start in addressing her addictions, including her entitled view about taking money from others, when she closes her tip jar and Patreon.
 
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Also, judging by that article, the Step 4 stuff she was tweeting about not so long ago (which is *meant* to be the searching and fearless moral inventory, something Jack would really benefit from if she was capable of being honest) seems to consist of harm done to her by others.
Therein lies the problem V. And I have the same level of concern for her relapsing as I do for anyone who isn’t following the programme as it should be.

We have all been wronged. There are things that happen to us that we are in no way responsible for and have no apology to make. This isn’t one of those. If she uses her step 4 to say “they keep posting comments about that kitten. How dare they? They’re picking on me”, if I was her sponsor I would try and expand on this further in a bid to get her to a place where she can say “well yes actually, looking back at it, I behaved terribly” and if I hadn’t done that, they wouldn’t have anything to talk about. Not to blame her but to HELP her not carry out the same behaviours again.

But until someone can make that searching and fearless moral inventory, they continue to carry around crappy behaviours and that can become an unbearable weight.
 
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I blame this thread because I had a dream that Jack was dating the somewhat controversial¹ porn star Lily Cade.

I should point out that I don't think Jack would touch her with a 10 ft pole, for a variety or reasons, but my subconscious mind goes to strange places at times.

¹to put it a bit mildly
 
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New thread before Jack wakes up -

 
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