Thanks mate, I’m half asleep so worried I could come across poorly.
Jack Monroe #21 If you cut me do I not bleed mayonnaise? #jacklivesmatter
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I have really enjoyed your posts @Bellybutton lint and would be heartbroken for you to leave. It's problematic for a white person to say things like 'I dont see colour, all people are people to me' because a POC can't ignore their colour, it impacts them every day.
I'm sure anyone can see that you were 100 well meaning in your posts but it would be highly hypocritical of anyone bashing JM to ignore these statements when they pop up.
Please don't think you have to leave this fantastic group for a comment that was well meant. I'm sure I'm not the only one who would miss you.
Popping this here as 20 pages behind, but I came across this, when we weren’t about and still she was allegedly being abused on Twitter
www.gaystarnews.com
Read this non-binary writer's powerful letter on why Twitter is abusive
Jack Monroe, non-binary food writer, has revealed they are quitting Twitter over bullying and feeling like they are in an abusive relationship.
www.gaystarnews.com
In case any newbies are lurking...
Well I am really, truly sorry. I am and feel like utter tit. I have neighbours who are POC and I never looked at them as POC but as good neighbours and friends. Like I say, I have worded it wrong and feel awful.
For anyone here to think that I was being awful, I am sorry, I wasn't. For the person who asked me nicely if I was drunk, I wasn't. I made an honest error in judgement. This is my final post because I really feel awful.
Dont leave over it. These are feelings so many white people are experiencing at the moment. It is really uncomfortable, but its part of learning.
I agree @Bellybutton lint don't go. You didn't intend to cause anyone offence and it's clear your intention was to simply to express that you're accepting of all people. You've apologised, let's move past it xx
honestly, please don’t. Your posts show you are kind, and funny, and open hearted. I’m a massive lurker on this thread but I read and enjoy every bit of it. I’m sorry you feel awful - but you’ve said you made an error in judgment. Don’t we all? And we learn and we go on.
You don't need to leave, just take it on the chin. We all get things wrong occasionally, doesn't make you an awful person.
It’s okay to admit bad wording, and still stay, as it’s so easy to express things badly without the intent actually being bad. Your contributions to this thread are brilliant, and we all have scope to learn and on this thread we are pretty good and keeping one another accountable.
Only this week did I learn about AllLivesMatter not being appropriate, we are not perfect but what matters is the ability to listen, learn and then do good things with that knowledge. So much is being learned this week.
Don't, just don't x
Echoing others to say don’t go, @Bellybutton lint No offence was meant, you aren’t Jack! You would be hugely missed!
on a much lighter note - thread suggestion
Enemy to food, texture and flavour, here comes Jack, our white saviour.
on a much lighter note - thread suggestion
Enemy to food, texture and flavour, here comes Jack, our white saviour.
Please don’t feel awful, what you said is a really common comment that is meant in the kindest way possible. I understand that you mean; I like people for who they are.
However when we say that, and I know I have said it in the past, we don’t help people. We need to see their colour to recognise that other people see their colour and life can be and often is more difficult for them.
Simple interactions can be more difficult because of their colour, take the role of the influencer. White middle class women are more likely to be offered an advert deal than a women of colour. If that is to change we need to see colour to question where the representatives from the Black community are.
You really shouldn’t feel bad, and definitely don’t go...tattle is so great because we can discuss and challenge each other. That is what makes it special. We know better we do better.
It’s simple, you made a statement- that others have made in the past- we discussed it, we all stuck together and then we started talking about grated corned beef again, ok!
Brilliant suggestion! or 'Here comes Jack, our white saviour, fighting the good fight against texture and flavour'
Please don't leave @Bellybutton lint, you are a true asset to this thread. The fact you've reflected and held your hands up highlights further how much of a great person you are. Sometimes words and intentions can be miscommunicated, especially when youre not aware of the political and emotional meaning around phrases that are highly charged. Everything crazy going on in the world right now highlights how much of an opportunity it is to listen and learn and youce done just that. @heretoreaditall2019, @Badlyplatedflapjacks and @Grizzlybear and others (cant go back to past pages on my phone to check @'s while posting) thank you so much for taking the time to explain and share resources. We may all know that you shouldnt rinse beans but eveything race related is a learning curve for everyone. Hope ive worded this okay!
honestly our intentions aren’t to make you feel like tit or be upset, so please don’t be and it breaks my heart to think of any of our haus fraus upset! I asked about drink because it seemed so uncharacteristic & it was a tiny bit bizarre - and as you’ve said, felt more like a bad judgment call than an out and out racist tirade as it wasn’t! Something just felt off.
This discussion is exactly what we need to be having with all of our friends / families / colleagues / employers / everyone! This isn’t out of the ordinary and you’re not exceptionally evil for saying ALM, it’s a common misconception that just needs a little challenging and a change of viewpoint. It’s a process for everyone, we (we being white people of which I am one and assuming you are too) have been socialised in a systemically racist society and that doesn’t just disappear one day, we all have work to do and we’re all starting from different start points.
This is normal stuff and nothing to feel ashamed of, anything that we learn and grow from is beautiful and a part of life’s long journey init. Akala’s natives is a great book to start with, I haven’t read why I’m no longer talking to white people about race but I’ve heard great things about that x
Learning about this stuff can be, and often is, deeply uncomfortable. To be honest, that's part of the reason that influencers have been so roundly panned for their posts about race over the past few days - they've put their foot in it then taken it badly when they've been corrected. And it's why so many of the Black voices over the past few days have been urging us to read and learn. 
I like that better!
Nah you're good mate, don't worry. Thanks for links I'm going to check them out later.
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