Genuine question for the Frauen who are willing to discuss and have knowledge - do the 12 steps include stuff about “haterzzzzz”?
What I know is there is a stage of admitting to people, and apologizing for behaviour because I’ve had friends do this to me. I’m sure some people don’t actually care for an apology or accept it or receive it nicely or ever forgive you.
If so, perhaps that’s the step Jack needs to revise.
This is a good question, as a huge disclaimer anyone’s answer will always vary slightly as whilst you’ve got the steps and literature etc it’s always open to some degree of interpretation and how you apply it is between you / your higher power / your sponsor? However with that said.... there’s
bleeping levels to it isn’t there. Jack is like the road kill of spiritual wellness, whichever way you look at things it’s
bleeping fucked.
I’ve never seen someone as thoroughly dishonest, like snap her like a piece of rock and dishonesty is running all the way through she’s sick sick sick sickly sick sick. Her behaviour is at direct odds with any form of recovery. In order to get well, you have to be willing to do the following:
4. Made a searching and fearless moral inventory of ourselves.
5.Admitted to God, to ourselves and to another human being the exact nature of our wrongs.
6.Were entirely ready to have God remove all these defects of character.
7. Humbly asked Him to remove our shortcomings.
Jackie isn’t capable of being honest. Working through step 4 with a sponsor you will be asked every single bullet point - so what’s your part in this? For most normal people this may be, well I didn’t actually tell ex husband he was upsetting me so it’s not fair I held this resentment. Or... I shouldn’t have stolen this it was wrong, this is my ego speaking it’s not actually a problem, I did this driven by greed, blah blah blah. Jack is SO dishonest and lacking in self reflection she just cannot do that work. Hers would be absolute fiction so worthless for all involved. The fact that we’ve observed her and tried to hold her to account for a YEAR and she’s just getting worse is testament to this.
Moreover, Jack enterprises LTD would cease to trade if she was to do the work and live an honest life. How could she book paid work under x marginalised identity if she’s an honest person? If I were her sponsor I would make her make amends for stealing the work of marginalised people tbh (note: not all sponsors would, they may suggest this does more harm than good to Jack for example). Tin jar rattling with dishonest stories about £20 shops and bounced rent would be off the table. There are many people who enter the rooms and have to leave a lot of their past behind (ppl that have been inside are the most obvious example of this, and again if I was working with her I’d suggest she has more in common with listening to a chair from someone who’s done time for fraud than a best selling author. But her grandiosity wouldn’t see why.
Most importantly - if she got well SHE would want out of all of this. Her behaviour is toxic to herself & others. If she were well she wouldn’t want to be behaving like this, she’d want to do better. She’s so
bleeping far gone it’s scary. I don’t mean to take other people’s inventory and be diagnosis sally but
duck me she is SO sick in the head it’s scary.