M33L4
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He even paid for that for her.
She deserves absolutely nothing.
Bejazzle your shopping trolley Alice. Time is ticking.
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Andrea has seen it.
- Notice
She deserves absolutely nothing.
Bejazzle your shopping trolley Alice. Time is ticking.
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Andrea has seen it.
Danica Catrick
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Alice is known for her love of peridot, although she usually spells it pernod
Hiraeth
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Here are my thoughts on Alice’s income and expense declaration. But first, a small rant. As a lawyer, seeing the state of Alice’s income and expense declaration was disturbing. It’s stained, messy, incomplete, sloppy, riddled with typos, and doesn’t attach any exhibits. It’s embarrassing to his client and insulting to the judge and court staff (and believe me, they notice). Not a good look, as AFE is so fond of saying.
- “Employer: Unemployed Actress” (I’m just gonna leave this here).
- Confused as to why she is still checking “married filing jointly” if she is no longer married, but I chalk this up as lack of attention to detail.
- Note that Alice is intending to claim the children as her dependents on her taxes (when she doesn’t even pay anything for their care). (I know this because she states that she is is claiming 3 exemptions on her tax return—for herself, Elsie, and Ella.) This means she will get a bigger tax refund from the government; I hope Ioan’s lawyers dispute this and allow Ioan to claim the children as dependents, because he pays for them!
- Alice couldn’t be bothered to finish dating the document when she signed it on the first page. We know she signed it in January, that’s it!
- Alice now reports zero income for December 2023, but claims an average monthly income of $419, and $1,200 income from self-employment as an actress. No documentation or exhibits are attached so it’s impossible to verify.
- Alice doesn’t disclose her spousal support from Ioan on page 2, which is the correct place to put it (not on page 3, Bernal).
- Alice claims she pays $429 per month in union dues.
- Alice claims she only has $14,000 in cash and $10,000 in personal property (for example, furnishings, clothing, jewelry, vehicles, etc.--if she still has the Bulgari watch, that alone could be valued at well over $10,000, so that number is a lie).
- Of course poor Elsie’s name is misspelled.
- Yet again, Alice does not provide her actual expenses but her proposed needs. Let’s break them down, shall we?
- $6,500 monthly rent (I guess she thinks she will stay where she is living?!)
- $1,200 per month in health care costs not paid by insurance (this is a lot; co-pays are usually $20-50 for medical visits and prescription costs can vary but usually are mostly covered by insurance)
- $800 per month for child care (for tweens/teens? why??)
- $2,500 per month for groceries (I’m sorry but are they buying filet mignon? That’s $30,000 a year in groceries alone.)
- $250 per month for eating out (oddly enough I think she is underestimating this particular figure)
- $3,000 per month for utilities (this is INSANE. I live in a very expensive area of California and rent a bigger place than Alice’s. Even with my husband’s medical devices and computers running all the time, my combined gas and electric bill is usually $300-400 per month, my water bill is about $100 per month, and trash service is about $80 per month. I cannot imagine a utilities bill of $3,000 per month unless she’s mining Bitcoin in there.)
- $150 per month for cell phones (reasonable for 3 of them, but doesn’t Ioan pay for the girls’ phones?)
- $50 per month for laundry and cleaning, and it shows
- $200 for clothes per month
- $300 for entertainment, gifts, and vacation (that’s a lot of movies/games/whatever per month)
- $350 per month for auto expenses, gas, insurance, and transportation (she drives a Prius, so it’s not for gas money. If she’s paying $350 a month for car insurance she needs to switch companies—or get a better driving record)
- The $10,000 per month she receives is incorrectly characterized as child support and put in the wrong place. The support payments are for both advance spousal support and child support.
- Her total expense needs have now gone slightly upward from last time. She now requires $15,310 per month to live.
- Apparently Alice has no credit card bills or debts, since she didn’t list any in item 14.
- Alice admits that her attorney’s fees were paid out of the house proceeds and “loans” (from whom? The loans are not listed as debts in item 14)
- Alice claims that the children spend 99% of their time with her and 1% of their time with Ioan on page 4.
- I need to quote this verbatim since it’s mind-boggling that it was put in a legal filing. When asked in item 20 if there is other information Alice wants the court to know concerning support, her response is: “MY INCOME FLUCTUATES I AM AN ACTRESS EARN MONEY IN TV OR MOVIES PLUS ROYALTIES AND APPEARANCES BUT DIJE TO AGE AND LACK OF RECENT WORK ITS HARD FINDING JOBS NOW.”
welp
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its still less and much less likes
(comments and likes being this close together either implies a controversy or a small but obsessed fanbase, and indeed many comments are also by the same 3 people, I guess that is still Narc heaven though. I think people not following Bianca also may be restricted to comment because Ioan has his locked)
speaking of which...
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Mad Betty
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I want to be AFE level broke. I want to be trips to the aesthetician for Botox and treatments, shopping at Sephora, and fresh fish delivery broke.
You too?
Think of all those hardworking folks who sent her money based on her pleas of poverty. They were all led to believe the ex walked away from her and the girls without any financial support at all. This is so unbelievably damning for her.
I hope those who backed the alternative facts are reconsidering things right now. They've been had.
MOO
You too?
Think of all those hardworking folks who sent her money based on her pleas of poverty. They were all led to believe the ex walked away from her and the girls without any financial support at all. This is so unbelievably damning for her.
I hope those who backed the alternative facts are reconsidering things right now. They've been had.
MOO
Mad Betty
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A big hello the our Daily Mail members and visitors. 
I do you hope that you will be writing an article about these newest court documents and how they reflect very clearly that Ms. Evans has been overpaid $350K in spousal support.
You know, a follow up to all of those articles you all have written stating Ms. Evans was so broke she couldn't pay her rent or buy food while she cried herself to sleep because her ex left them in a state of poverty.
Enough of these faux factual fluff pieces. It's time to correct this false narrative once and for all.
MOO
I do you hope that you will be writing an article about these newest court documents and how they reflect very clearly that Ms. Evans has been overpaid $350K in spousal support.
You know, a follow up to all of those articles you all have written stating Ms. Evans was so broke she couldn't pay her rent or buy food while she cried herself to sleep because her ex left them in a state of poverty.
Enough of these faux factual fluff pieces. It's time to correct this false narrative once and for all.
MOO
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Hiraeth
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Here are some thoughts on the Updated Joint Statement of Disputed/Undisputed Financial Issues. As we can see, Katherine Heerseema is taking the custody case forward in the absence of Anne Kiley, who was appointed as a judge and therefore can no longer practice law.
The main issues in the declaration are as follows. For ease of reading I'm putting particularly interesting items in bold text:
- The prenup: Ioan’s side brings up the valid and enforceable prenup. Bernal, of course, fails to respond to this section and Alice does not dispute the prenup.
- Cash accounts: Alice did not provide her worldwide bank and credit card statements upon Ioan’s formal legal request (the Deposition Request). Bernal responds that Alice has now agreed to provide the documents “and work toward settlement.”
- Retirement Accounts: Both sides agree that the retirement accounts should be divided per the court’s Qualified Domestic Relations Order (“QDRO”). The QDRO will be used to make sure assets are fairly divided in the divorce; for example, if Ioan has overpaid Alice and she does not have the means to pay him back, some of her retirement account may be allocated to Ioan to make up for the shortfall.
- Alice agrees that she has previously received more than her share of the proceeds of the house sale.
- Alice and Ioan agree to equally distributing the residual payments which are being received by Ioan’s corporations.
- Alice and Ioan agree that she will keep the Prius (and, presumably, the rat therein), subject to the court’s equalization.
- Alice and Ioan’s jewelry/personal property which was given to each other during marriage will be kept by the person who received the items, subject to the court’s equalization.
- Per the prenup, the contents of the house and some jewelry are Ioan’s sole and separate property, and Alice agrees.
- Bernal is not seeking further legal fees at this time. (Given the absolute state of his filings, he would be laughed out of court if he asked for more!)
- Overpayments of spousal support: Ioan overpaid Alice $205,288 in 2021 and $147,056 in 2022. He owes Alice $2,026 for 2023.
The main issues in the declaration are as follows. For ease of reading I'm putting particularly interesting items in bold text:
- The prenup: Ioan’s side brings up the valid and enforceable prenup. Bernal, of course, fails to respond to this section and Alice does not dispute the prenup.
- Cash accounts: Alice did not provide her worldwide bank and credit card statements upon Ioan’s formal legal request (the Deposition Request). Bernal responds that Alice has now agreed to provide the documents “and work toward settlement.”
- Retirement Accounts: Both sides agree that the retirement accounts should be divided per the court’s Qualified Domestic Relations Order (“QDRO”). The QDRO will be used to make sure assets are fairly divided in the divorce; for example, if Ioan has overpaid Alice and she does not have the means to pay him back, some of her retirement account may be allocated to Ioan to make up for the shortfall.
- Alice agrees that she has previously received more than her share of the proceeds of the house sale.
- Alice and Ioan agree to equally distributing the residual payments which are being received by Ioan’s corporations.
- Alice and Ioan agree that she will keep the Prius (and, presumably, the rat therein), subject to the court’s equalization.
- Alice and Ioan’s jewelry/personal property which was given to each other during marriage will be kept by the person who received the items, subject to the court’s equalization.
- Per the prenup, the contents of the house and some jewelry are Ioan’s sole and separate property, and Alice agrees.
- Bernal is not seeking further legal fees at this time. (Given the absolute state of his filings, he would be laughed out of court if he asked for more!)
- Overpayments of spousal support: Ioan overpaid Alice $205,288 in 2021 and $147,056 in 2022. He owes Alice $2,026 for 2023.
Clytemnestra
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Love the addendum at the bottom of the form:
I AM AN ACTRESS EARN MONEY (sic) IN TV OR MOVIES PLUS ROYALTIES AND APPEARANCES BUT DUE TO AGE AND LACK OF RECENT WORK ITS HARD FINDING JOBS NOW
Yep. Them's definitely the reasons (capital letters = Alice's own)
I AM AN ACTRESS EARN MONEY (sic) IN TV OR MOVIES PLUS ROYALTIES AND APPEARANCES BUT DUE TO AGE AND LACK OF RECENT WORK ITS HARD FINDING JOBS NOW
Yep. Them's definitely the reasons (capital letters = Alice's own)
Hiraeth
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Here are my thoughts on Ioan’s income and expense declaration.
- Because of the SAG strike, there was a significant change in Ioan's financial situation.
- Ioan’s corporation enters into acting contracts on his behalf. So, Ioan is claiming average monthly earnings of $18,264; however in December 2023, he did not have income, but instead a loss of -$34,395. This is despite Alice claiming that Ioan earns $25,000 - $40,000 per month in monthly income (see page 1 of Alice’s income and expense declaration).
- Ioan declares that his fiancée Bianca lives with him and pays for $1,900 of household expenses per month.
Ioan’s actual expenses are as follows:
* $3,502 monthly rent (average over last 12 months, so I’m guessing the amount he was able to pay fluctuated)
* $24 monthly renter’s insurance (looks pretty standard)
* $600 in health care costs not paid by insurance; this figure includes the cost of psychotherapy for Ioan
* $1,250 in groceries per month (much more reasonable than Alice’s $2,500 figure)
* $340 for eating out per month (this seems reasonable)
* $180 per month for utilities (compare to Alice’s mammoth monthly ask of $3,000 for her utilities)
* $185 monthly for cell phone costs (seems reasonable)
* $100 per month for clothes (reasonable)
* $400 per month for entertainment, gifts, and vacation (so much for “swanning around the globe”)
* $480 for auto expenses (seems reasonable for gasoline and car insurance—I paid $5.49 a gallon for gas yesterday…yay California)
* $160 per month in personal grooming and $100 per month in pet care expenses (seems reasonable)
* All this totals $7,321 per month, less than half of what Alice is claiming to need.
- Ioan declares debts of two small credit card bills with balances of less than $200 combined.
- Ioan estimates that the children have spent 93% of their time with Alice and 7% of their time with him. He claims that due to Alice’s parental alienation, he has only spent 27 days with the children in the past year, but he hopes that this will increase due to the ongoing reunification therapy.
- Ioan pays $166 per month for Elsie and Ella’s health insurance.
- Ioan also pays $4,200 a month for Elsie and Ella’s therapy. Alice did not claim any therapy expenses on her income and expense declaration, which is a red flag since they are supposed to be splitting the therapy expenses.
- Again, Ioan had forensic accountants prepare a report of Ioan’s income which is available for support, using data from the past 36 months for the period ending December 31, 2023. In total, for the 36 months which ended December 31, 2023, Ioan’s gross monthly income available for support is $21,023 (averaged figure from $40,547 gross monthly income in 2021, $4,529 in 2022, and $18,264 in 2023).
- The accountants prepared spreadsheets showing the breakdown of Ioan’s income from wages, residuals, and dividend/interest income. Interestingly, Ioan paid all of Alice’s union dues in 2021.
- Attachment 11 shows a breakdown of existing assets, which is interesting to peruse.
- Attachment 15 shows the attorney fees paid by Ioan. (For Ioan’s legal fees: $68,208 to collaborative attorney Forrest Mosten; $28,131 to Dena Kleeman; $285,370 to the Elkins Kalt firm; and $18,512 to the Langlois Family Law firm. For Alice’s legal fees, Ioan paid an unknown amount to Alice’s collaborative attorney Jill Cohen; $15,000 to Leon Bennett; $90,000 to Marie La Molinara; $35,000 to Bernal Ojeda; and an unknown amount to 2 other of Alice’s attorneys.)
- The GAL, Elise Greenberg, has been paid $8,000 by Ioan, and he has paid Dr. Suzanne Dupee $15,000.
- Ioan pays $4,200 per month for individual and reunification therapy for the children.
- Because of the SAG strike, there was a significant change in Ioan's financial situation.
- Ioan’s corporation enters into acting contracts on his behalf. So, Ioan is claiming average monthly earnings of $18,264; however in December 2023, he did not have income, but instead a loss of -$34,395. This is despite Alice claiming that Ioan earns $25,000 - $40,000 per month in monthly income (see page 1 of Alice’s income and expense declaration).
- Ioan declares that his fiancée Bianca lives with him and pays for $1,900 of household expenses per month.
Ioan’s actual expenses are as follows:
* $3,502 monthly rent (average over last 12 months, so I’m guessing the amount he was able to pay fluctuated)
* $24 monthly renter’s insurance (looks pretty standard)
* $600 in health care costs not paid by insurance; this figure includes the cost of psychotherapy for Ioan
* $1,250 in groceries per month (much more reasonable than Alice’s $2,500 figure)
* $340 for eating out per month (this seems reasonable)
* $180 per month for utilities (compare to Alice’s mammoth monthly ask of $3,000 for her utilities)
* $185 monthly for cell phone costs (seems reasonable)
* $100 per month for clothes (reasonable)
* $400 per month for entertainment, gifts, and vacation (so much for “swanning around the globe”)
* $480 for auto expenses (seems reasonable for gasoline and car insurance—I paid $5.49 a gallon for gas yesterday…yay California)
* $160 per month in personal grooming and $100 per month in pet care expenses (seems reasonable)
* All this totals $7,321 per month, less than half of what Alice is claiming to need.
- Ioan declares debts of two small credit card bills with balances of less than $200 combined.
- Ioan estimates that the children have spent 93% of their time with Alice and 7% of their time with him. He claims that due to Alice’s parental alienation, he has only spent 27 days with the children in the past year, but he hopes that this will increase due to the ongoing reunification therapy.
- Ioan pays $166 per month for Elsie and Ella’s health insurance.
- Ioan also pays $4,200 a month for Elsie and Ella’s therapy. Alice did not claim any therapy expenses on her income and expense declaration, which is a red flag since they are supposed to be splitting the therapy expenses.
- Again, Ioan had forensic accountants prepare a report of Ioan’s income which is available for support, using data from the past 36 months for the period ending December 31, 2023. In total, for the 36 months which ended December 31, 2023, Ioan’s gross monthly income available for support is $21,023 (averaged figure from $40,547 gross monthly income in 2021, $4,529 in 2022, and $18,264 in 2023).
- The accountants prepared spreadsheets showing the breakdown of Ioan’s income from wages, residuals, and dividend/interest income. Interestingly, Ioan paid all of Alice’s union dues in 2021.
- Attachment 11 shows a breakdown of existing assets, which is interesting to peruse.
- Attachment 15 shows the attorney fees paid by Ioan. (For Ioan’s legal fees: $68,208 to collaborative attorney Forrest Mosten; $28,131 to Dena Kleeman; $285,370 to the Elkins Kalt firm; and $18,512 to the Langlois Family Law firm. For Alice’s legal fees, Ioan paid an unknown amount to Alice’s collaborative attorney Jill Cohen; $15,000 to Leon Bennett; $90,000 to Marie La Molinara; $35,000 to Bernal Ojeda; and an unknown amount to 2 other of Alice’s attorneys.)
- The GAL, Elise Greenberg, has been paid $8,000 by Ioan, and he has paid Dr. Suzanne Dupee $15,000.
- Ioan pays $4,200 per month for individual and reunification therapy for the children.
BingoFlamingo
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Christ on a bike. He’s spent over 400k on lawyers, including £130k on Alice’s lawyers. This could have all been avoided and the girls would have college funds if only Alice’s rage hadn’t got the better of her and agreed to collaborative. What a fucking witch.
he may have less money now but Ioan is a much richer man.
Mad Betty
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There seems to be a pattern.
Something is posted about I & B. She then posts something happy and safe (kids or dog) to deflect from her obvious behind the scenes sock rage campaign. Then after insuring the DM picks up her latest IG post, she pretends she's outraged and is above it all and has completely moved on. She is once against the victim.
Without this attention she'd just be the former wife of that actor from (pick a show or movie). She's not well known and she hasn't worked in years. This keeps her in the public eye and she needs the attention. She seems to follow the "any publicity is good publicity" way of living. I get wanting to stay relevant, but this is just more of the same old nonsense.
Nothing changes. At least I & B appear to be moving in the right direction and just getting on with it. I wish she'd do the same.
MOO
Something is posted about I & B. She then posts something happy and safe (kids or dog) to deflect from her obvious behind the scenes sock rage campaign. Then after insuring the DM picks up her latest IG post, she pretends she's outraged and is above it all and has completely moved on. She is once against the victim.
Without this attention she'd just be the former wife of that actor from (pick a show or movie). She's not well known and she hasn't worked in years. This keeps her in the public eye and she needs the attention. She seems to follow the "any publicity is good publicity" way of living. I get wanting to stay relevant, but this is just more of the same old nonsense.
Nothing changes. At least I & B appear to be moving in the right direction and just getting on with it. I wish she'd do the same.
MOO
Mad Betty
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Downloading the financials now and will post shortly.
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Joint Statement of Disputed Issues
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Alice's Financial Declaration (occupation: "Unemployed Actress")
He's overpaid her over $350K in spousal support and all the while she continued to plead poverty publicly to shame him and insisted he paid her nothing?
Do I have this right? Good God.
MOO