Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #232 See you later, Bernalligator; give me that confidential file, crocodile!

[M33L4]

The minute she was exposed by those hundreds of abusive messages she should have slunk away into obscurity. The fact she tries to front it out and continues to allow her dumb brother to abuse in her name is utterly batshit.
I have a semi-reasonable relationship with my first husband for the sake of our children. We do parents nights etc and any big event in their lives is celebrated jointly. Because we put them first.
My older children adore their younger siblings. It’s a joy to watch their relationships blossom with their significant others too. Remind me to tell you all about the mostly adult games of hide and seek at the bequest of our youngest mimsy who hasn’t quite worked out time concept of keeping quiet and still.
See also, my wedding that I’ve not mentioned for a while.


Alice, try it.

 

[ThisishowIlivenow]

tbh if I was Ioan I would do the following thing: I would resume visitation, but just with Elsie for now. It's what we all said 1.5 years ago what he should have done already back then rather insisting to have Ella there (who was pretty much from the start lost, only dumb chickens try to re-write history on this one). it was clearly his biggest mistake (albeit a understandable one) in this whole saga because Ella's main purpose of being there was ensuring that Elsie and Ioan don't reconnect. I think Elsie alone would be a different story (even if obviously she would be instructed regardless to cause trouble, but it's much harder for a little child if no one older and taller leads you), also in a wedding where a ton of adults are around. It's much harder to disrupt such a setting as a little child (you have at every wedding a child that cries and whatnot, that isnt too different) compared to a adult-size teenager with a very problematic history, and her little helper. You can't stop somebody like this without using force yourself (cue another fake RO filing). And who knows, maybe Elsie giving positive feedback may make Ella reconsider her choices.

So Ella I would definitely not welcome, and the fake RO incident has ruled out any "how dare you dont invite your kid" calls for this (though of course idiots will be idiots), unless there is some huge change in the relationship until then. but Elsie I feel like at least deserves the chance if she wants to be there, and the risk is pretty small overall. But of course I can understand any couple that went through so much like them to minimize the risk.

I think only having Elsie there would be putting her in a perilous position. She'd be the subject of fury from both her mother and her sister. Unfortunately I don't think it would be fair on her at all.

 

[M33L4]

Don’t think we’ll see any pictures of a scowling, pissed-up Bianca on her wedding day.

She won’t be storming up the aisle.

There will be no hideous gladiator sandals and no Tone.

Someone please explain to me how Rachel was even involved in that? It’s never made sense to me. She’s the daughter of Alice’s dad’s neighbours but Tone only just met her at the wedding? So why were they invited to the wedding which wasn’t local to them?? Make it make sense.

 

[lanabels]

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Positively green with envy that the lovely Rach gets to jump Tone's bones !

Im really jealous of the sights poor rach get to see not to mention the aromas she gets sample ,I imagine he sells like the back of a infected ear piercing

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

maybe this time he could do a sprint to his beautiful bride to Bee at the end of the aisle, instead of being dragged up it to meet the cess pit of doom at the end like the last one

Not to mention the two brothers escorting AFE up the aisle looking like they were bouncers ejecting a trouble maker. Wish I could find that pic - does anyone have it?

 

[MrsDimSum]

Someone please explain to me how Rachel was even involved in that? It’s never made sense to me. She’s the daughter of Alice’s dad’s neighbours but Tone only just met her at the wedding? So why were they invited to the wedding which wasn’t local to them?? Make it make sense.

they had a spare invite so invited the neighbours daughter?

 

[Bridgeofsighs]

they had a spare invite so invited the neighbours daughter?

Tone fancied her so asked her to be invited?

 

[Ametrine]

Not to mention the two brothers escorting AFE up the aisle looking like they were bouncers ejecting a trouble maker. Wish I could find that pic - does anyone have it?

Here you go:

 

[M33L4]

they had a spare invite so invited the neighbours daughter?

Not according to Ioan

 

[MrsDimSum]

Im really jealous of the sights poor rach get to see not to mention the aromas she gets sample ,I imagine he sells like the back of a infected ear piercing

that’s not a real photo is it?

 

[BessieNessie]

Someone please explain to me how Rachel was even involved in that? It’s never made sense to me. She’s the daughter of Alice’s dad’s neighbours but Tone only just met her at the wedding? So why were they invited to the wedding which wasn’t local to them?? Make it make sense.

Because she’s a little different and not the sort of adult child that you leave alone at home? And the parents approved of Atony because he’s not entirely unlike her and they could keep an eye on both of them? - You might even say that despite his age, they took him in.

 

[CookieMonsta]

Someone please explain to me how Rachel was even involved in that? It’s never made sense to me. She’s the daughter of Alice’s dad’s neighbours but Tone only just met her at the wedding? So why were they invited to the wedding which wasn’t local to them?? Make it make sense.

Ioan claimed Alice invited so many people that they had to uninvite some. Awkward much?! Alice inviting the daughter of her dad's neighbour to an overseas wedding when it sounds like they were never close, screams of trying to fill up the bride's side with someone, anyone.

 

[M33L4]

Because she’s a little different and not the sort of adult child that you leave alone at home? And the parents approved of Atony because he’s not entirely unlike her and they could keep an eye on both of them? - You might even say that despite his age, they took him in.

But he’d never met her before that wedding? Alice talks about her mother dying and Tone’s in-laws “adopting” her. None of it makes any logical sense.

 

[welp]

Someone please explain to me how Rachel was even involved in that? It’s never made sense to me. She’s the daughter of Alice’s dad’s neighbours but Tone only just met her at the wedding? So why were they invited to the wedding which wasn’t local to them?? Make it make sense.

and keep in mind: they uninvited a ton of people and seemingly didn't invite the father's wife.

Tone was 37 and Rachel 21 at the time. Age gaps aren't a issue (except of course you are Alice's ex-husband) but it depends on how young the younger part is when meeting, and 16 years gap with the woman being 21 definitely will be seen as inappropriate in most circles, especially if the relationship is far enough to go to a wedding together (which means you are dating even longer than this). So methinks they didnt meet at the wedding but that's the official story they tell everyone to make their relationship not seen as quite that inappropriate

 

[M33L4]

and keep in mind: they uninvited a ton of people and seemingly didn't invite the father's wife.

Tone was 37 and Rachel 21 at the time. Age gaps aren't a issue (except of course you are Alice's ex-husband) but it depends on how young the younger part is when meeting, and 16 years gap with the woman being 21 definitely will be seen as inappropriate in most circles, especially if the relationship is far enough to go to a wedding together (which means you are dating even longer than this). So methinks they didnt meet at the wedding but that's the official story they tell everyone to make their relationship not seen as quite that inappropriate

Oh sadly that makes sense. They were Tone’s in-laws of sorts before the wedding.

 

[welp]

Oh sadly that makes sense. They were Tone’s in-laws of sorts before the wedding.

it's the only thing that makes remotely sense, because Tone keeps claiming that he met her there (note: not that they started dating there, which is something very different, and something none of Alice's minions seem to understand when they talk about Ioan and Bianca), but at the same time he says her parents were his parents neighbours, there is no way that he didnt met her already before that (especially when Alice, who had left the UK in her early 20s (and presumably the parents home as a teenager, so presumably when Tone's future wife was hardly born yet!), uninvites a ton of people just to have her there), so why would you lie about something ultimately so harmless?

PS: I doubt she was her parents+1 since this would be a touch embarrassing for a 21 year old, but who knows. Bottom line is in the end that a random girl was more lilkely to be invited to her wedding than her own stepmom, if Tone's story was true.

 

[ThisishowIlivenow]

Someone please explain to me how Rachel was even involved in that? It’s never made sense to me. She’s the daughter of Alice’s dad’s neighbours but Tone only just met her at the wedding? So why were they invited to the wedding which wasn’t local to them?? Make it make sense.

Cause Alice scares everyone who actually knows her off so acquaintances were invited to make up numbers would be my guess

 

[M33L4]

Side note: when you google Ioan and Alice wedding my wedding thread appears and the pic I made of Tone with the poo emoji. See Tone, that’s winning and funny

 

[BessieNessie]

So they did the wedding themselves. YIKES!!.

Well that explains a lot.

Basically she did her wedding like she does her handbags. ~ A tray of egg butties with ribbons on.

No wonder the Gruffudds looked so embarrassed. Why does everything have to be so damn CRINGE with her?

 

[Arctic Ocean]

If you plan on wearing a strapless wedding dress, can you at least make some effort to avoid bikini lines?!