Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #225 Narcissistic abuser, but make it fashion.

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She’s just pissed that while she thought Ioan (and by proxy B) would be as miserable as Alice is during the holidays (by withholding the kids) they’ve got company from out of town, are out and about living life and are clearly in love. Suck it big Al
 
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CPTSD goes in peaks and troughs. You can have a relatively good day; the next, you may be hypervigilant and your anxiety will be off the charts. I have CPTSD, and had therapy for it for five years. It still hasn’t gone. Certain things trigger and retraumatise me. And, as an autistic woman with suspected ADD (am being assessed sometime before 2030 on the NHS), anxiety and overstimulation are par for the course. I’m going back to therapy next week. I imagine Bianca is in therapy too.
She’s made the choice to face her demons and look them in the eyes while being positive about the hand she has been dealt, what she’s experienced and what she continues to grapple with. It’s admirable. In a world seemingly populated by a million vapid, pouting and preening influencers, she actually offers honesty and hope. Far from ‘piping down’, she has been a model of decorum and good form over the past several years. She has endured daily attacks from Alice, ‘Tone’, Alice’s demented fans and clingers-on, and even her partner’s children. She has been abused, accused and vilified while going through huge physical upheavals as a consequence of her MS and the emotional strain of not only supporting the man she loves and bearing the huge burden he has been forced to shoulder; she has been dragged through the tabloids and courts, lied about by a manipulated, unwell child and accused of assault.
Why should Bianca be quiet? Did Alice herself not say that she would never be quiet, never give up, refused to act with dignity? Has Bianca launched a campaign of hate and intimidation against Alice? Has she slandered her looks, misogynistically implied that she is sexually ‘impure’, had every facet of her personality, character and identity challenged, been held responsible for her behaviour? No? Funny, that.
I admire Bianca. Initially, I thought she was a little too good to be true; but her tenacity and courage under horrendous conditions is truly remarkable. She has - or was it her sister? - alluded to domestic violence in her marriage. She has endured mental violence from Alice and ‘Tony’ Evans. She has never backed down.
We don’t know what has been going on behind the scenes, but, given past performances from the Diva of WeHo - fake restraining orders, a damaged flat, physical intimidation by a manipulated minor, and likely a torrent of written filth from Alice’s poison pen via email, text and SM - the truth is likely to be more horrible, more unhinged and vicious than even we, pragmatic women that we are, can imagine. Something pretty extraordinary must have happened for Bianca to break her silence in this way. I’m sure that revelations will come soon enough.
Lastly, don’t attempt to silence victims. Don’t do it. Don’t demand that she - indeed, we: after a lifetime of pain of every kind - go in silence. Don’t insist that we perpetuate the status quo. Don’t try to take a young woman’s voice. Don’t give power to abusers. We no longer live in such a world; nor should we. To do so is to be complicit with the damaging structures and violence perpetrated. When people like Bianca speak out, they enable others to find their voices. She is not acting in malice, unlike the woman who has gone crazy for over a thousand days and left scorched earth in her wake.
I’m going back to lurking while I sort my head out - this time of year is always difficult, and physical problems have compounded my own CPTSD - but I had to respond to that. And wish you all a very happy New Year.
Sending you love and big hugs, to get you through this period ☮🩷
Thank you for sharing, your posts are always so insightful; as are others! I swear I've found out more about mental health issues from these threads, than I have from therapists at times. People have shared experiences and some things have clicked in my own MH conditions!

And I agree something good for I & B (I hope) is on the horizon 🙏
 
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Why can't or won't they see Alun then? What's he ever done wrong?
Alun is acting on behalf of the most dangerous woman alive - Mama Gruff! (True facts on Planet Alice)

Just waiting for "Tone" to tell us that anyone can pretend to have CPTSD. Given that AE likes to copy others (typical narc) eg, filed for a fake RO after she got one, will she now diagnose herself with CPTSD? I can see it now -

Judge Josh/Dupee: What caused the CPTSD?

Alice: The haters on Tattle who have been trolling me for 3 years!
 
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Yo must be pleased to have family visiting, not only because big Al is not there being her horrible self, but to bring visitors to his and Bee's beautiful clean flat. Al was furious because Yo had said their house is dirty and smells. Imagine what that new flat already smells like, now that the dog hasn't been taken for walks for 7 months and has pissed all over it.
 
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Alun is acting on behalf of the most dangerous woman alive - Mama Gruff! (True facts on Planet Alice)

Just waiting for "Tone" to tell us that anyone can pretend to have CPTSD. Given that AE likes to copy others (typical narc) eg, filed for a fake RO after she got one, will she now diagnose herself with CPTSD? I can see it now -

Judge Josh/Dupee: What caused the CPTSD?

Alice: The haters on Tattle who have been trolling me for 3 years!
pretty sure she has claimed PTSD several times so far


tbh if you visit enough doctors it's easy to get a diagnosis. not accusing Bianca of this of course, but it'd be surprising if Alice hasnt gotten one yet (or at least tried). Going by how extensively she shopped for a fibro diagnosis (and yet by her own admission never got a definitive one) and that she has already implied to shop for therapists as well she clearly isnt too lazy for this.
 
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Alun is acting on behalf of the most dangerous woman alive - Mama Gruff! (True facts on Planet Alice)

Just waiting for "Tone" to tell us that anyone can pretend to have CPTSD. Given that AE likes to copy others (typical narc) eg, filed for a fake RO after she got one, will she now diagnose herself with CPTSD? I can see it now -

Judge Josh/Dupee: What caused the CPTSD?

Alice: The haters on Tattle who have been trolling me for 3 years!
Im amazed Dr Tone hasn’t made an appearance on X yet to share his expert opinion on this.
 
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And Alice was SO nice to Alun the five times she met him, why didn’t Alun side with her, instead of Ioan?
She probably flirted with him and believed he was in love with her (cause you know no man can resist her sparkling personality, stunning beauty and that better-than-brunette-blonde hair, all 3 of them) and generally behaved inappropriately with him. In between wrapping herself around Ioan like a boa constrictor because he was her meal now and she wanted to make sure the Guffuds knew it she was so madly in love with him. It's so unfair and heartless of Alun to side with his brother and not tell Ioan to get back into the garage and worship at the feet of Alice.
 
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Alice attracts people with schizoid personality disorder and she knows how to communicate with them, they get the closest thing they ever had to a friendship in just a few tweets with her, it demands no nuance or depth and she knows how to keep them on side. *gestures in the general direction of her Twitter staffies.

Anyway I’m calling it; she knows how to get on with them (as opposed to others) because that’s what her mum had and that’s why the siblings are such an unusual but similar mess personality wise. Their mum was their primary caregiver, if it was her dad it wouldn’t have impacted them as much (except the hereditarily factor of course but he married twice long term so it’s unlikely).

And before anyone passes out clutching their pearls 😉 we’re all in this for some kind of interest, mine was understanding her raging narcism and the shared oddity running through the family. There’s a nature/nurture combo as is often the case so they either have traits of it themselves or they are products of being raised by it and in some cases both scenarios are true.

I’m leaving it there - I’m throwing Schizoid personality disorder into the hat 🎩 as the root cause of the Evans family assorted asylum.

If Alice would care to leek Dupee’s report to Boshoff at the DM when it’s done, that would be great. 🙏🏼 🙏🏼
 
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She probably flirted with him and believed he was in love with her (cause you know no man can resist her sparkling personality, stunning beauty and that better-than-brunette-blonde hair, all 3 of them) and generally behaved inappropriately with him. In between wrapping herself around Ioan like a boa constrictor because he was her meal now and she wanted to make sure the Guffuds knew it she was so madly in love with him. It's so unfair and heartless of Alun to side with his brother and not tell Ioan to get back into the garage and worship at the feet of Alice.
Didn't sockBro allude via tweet when Alun was doing the dragons marathon that Alun had previously been in love with Alice 🤔
 
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Alice attracts people with schizoid personality disorder and she knows how to communicate with them, they get the closest thing they ever had to a friendship in just a few tweets with her, it demands no nuance or depth and she knows how to keep them on side. *gestures in the general direction of her Twitter staffies.

Anyway I’m calling it; she knows how to get on with them (as opposed to others) because that’s what her mum had and that’s why the siblings are such an unusual but similar mess personality wise. Their mum was their primary caregiver, if it was her dad it wouldn’t have impacted them as much (except the hereditarily factor of course but he married twice long term so it’s unlikely).

And before anyone passes out clutching their pearls 😉 we’re all in this for some kind of interest, mine was understanding her raging narcism and the shared oddity running through the family. There’s a nature/nurture combo as is often the case so they either have traits of it themselves or they are products of being raised by it and in some cases both scenarios are true.

I’m leaving it there - I’m throwing Schizoid personality disorder into the hat 🎩 as the root cause of the Evans family assorted asylum.

If Alice would care to leek Dupee’s report to Boshoff at the DM when it’s done, that would be great. 🙏🏼 🙏🏼
Interesting. Very interesting and very probable. In my non expert amateur only opinion. I suspect both though, heredity and nuture. And I agree one parent being simply a narcissist probably wouldnt do it to all three siblings.
off to read up on SPD
 
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This post is a good example of the severe cognitive dissonance her fandom suffers from
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Alice harrassing Bianca for years, Bianca stays silent = Well done Alice for not staying silent, B is evil etc
Bianca making one post about the impact said harrassement (among many, she didnt even mention Alice) had on her, Alice directly reacts with victim blaming (earth to crazyland: this isnt "staying silent") = Well done Alice for staying silent, B is showing her true colors

What are her true colors? Arent you admitting this way that your idol was 1000000 times worse the past years?

And that's why this side will never be right.

also I found this old post of a Z-list actress that lives on Alice's iG: according to them Queen Alice is more famous than Ioan, and they have the gall to call Ioan's above average career "lacksture" while gushing over Alice's failure of a career
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even Queen Alice admitted that Ioan is rated 5-10 times higher. As everyone with a brain knows. Alice is best known for being married to him and this divorce drama. Ioan is far better known for some of his roles. Alice wasnt even the most popular actress in her own role in VD (she was written out of the story but not her character, remember). Facts.
 
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pretty sure she has claimed PTSD several times so far


tbh if you visit enough doctors it's easy to get a diagnosis. not accusing Bianca of this of course, but it'd be surprising if Alice hasnt gotten one yet (or at least tried). Going by how extensively she shopped for a fibro diagnosis (and yet by her own admission never got a definitive one) and that she has already implied to shop for therapists as well she clearly isnt too lazy for this.
No, Welp - it’s not easy to get a diagnosis of *C* PTSD. With ‘standard’ PTSD you have to meet a range of criteria, from hypervigilance to anxiety to sleeplessness. CPTSD is a lot more… complex. It can be a combination of traumatic events; sustained trauma during childhood; a traumatic event or series of events that makes you feel unable to escape, that you are trapped, controlled and coerced; and there are specific symptoms associated with CPTSD, including numerous and vivid flashbacks so that you perceive you are living the traumatic moment(s) in real time, suicidal ideation and desire, utter despair and sensations of worthlessness, which must be fulfilled in order to receive a diagnosis and subsequent treatment (the best of which I found, personally, to be EMDR - horrific to experience because, in effect, you are directly reliving the trauma, but a good way to unlock repressed memories). Basically, it’s as ‘easy’ to get a CPTSD diagnosis as it is an autism diagnosis - and that takes years of assessment by a range of clinicians and specialists. You would have to find a pretty appalling psychologist/psychiatrist to simply diagnose you with CPTSD without a detailed and rigorous assessment and evaluation of a full range of symptoms and comorbidities - the kind of clinician who should, and indeed *must*, be struck off. It took a year for my trauma therapist to give me my own diagnosis, and that was with weekly sessions.
Someone mentioned Bianca’s positivity re: her diagnosis. It can actually be a huge relief to learn what is wrong, rather than labouring under nebulous fears, stress, the sense that something is desperately wrong - but what? It allows you to feel that now, there might be some resolution to the psychological pain you’ve been crushed by. The feeling is temporary, but it’s at least a start.
-Thank you to everyone who has been so lovely: @lulooo, @CookieMonsta, @Lulugrace - you really are the dearest people, and a great reminder of why these threads are such a lifeline of support and compassion.
 
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CPTSD goes in peaks and troughs. You can have a relatively good day; the next, you may be hypervigilant and your anxiety will be off the charts. I have CPTSD, and had therapy for it for five years. It still hasn’t gone. Certain things trigger and retraumatise me. And, as an autistic woman with suspected ADD (am being assessed sometime before 2030 on the NHS), anxiety and overstimulation are par for the course. I’m going back to therapy next week. I imagine Bianca is in therapy too.
She’s made the choice to face her demons and look them in the eyes while being positive about the hand she has been dealt, what she’s experienced and what she continues to grapple with. It’s admirable. In a world seemingly populated by a million vapid, pouting and preening influencers, she actually offers honesty and hope. Far from ‘piping down’, she has been a model of decorum and good form over the past several years. She has endured daily attacks from Alice, ‘Tone’, Alice’s demented fans and clingers-on, and even her partner’s children. She has been abused, accused and vilified while going through huge physical upheavals as a consequence of her MS and the emotional strain of not only supporting the man she loves and bearing the huge burden he has been forced to shoulder; she has been dragged through the tabloids and courts, lied about by a manipulated, unwell child and accused of assault.
Why should Bianca be quiet? Did Alice herself not say that she would never be quiet, never give up, refused to act with dignity? Has Bianca launched a campaign of hate and intimidation against Alice? Has she slandered her looks, misogynistically implied that she is sexually ‘impure’, had every facet of her personality, character and identity challenged, been held responsible for her behaviour? No? Funny, that.
I admire Bianca. Initially, I thought she was a little too good to be true; but her tenacity and courage under horrendous conditions is truly remarkable. She has - or was it her sister? - alluded to domestic violence in her marriage. She has endured mental violence from Alice and ‘Tony’ Evans. She has never backed down.
We don’t know what has been going on behind the scenes, but, given past performances from the Diva of WeHo - fake restraining orders, a damaged flat, physical intimidation by a manipulated minor, and likely a torrent of written filth from Alice’s poison pen via email, text and SM - the truth is likely to be more horrible, more unhinged and vicious than even we, pragmatic women that we are, can imagine. Something pretty extraordinary must have happened for Bianca to break her silence in this way. I’m sure that revelations will come soon enough.
Lastly, don’t attempt to silence victims. Don’t do it. Don’t demand that she - indeed, we: after a lifetime of pain of every kind - go in silence. Don’t insist that we perpetuate the status quo. Don’t try to take a young woman’s voice. Don’t give power to abusers. We no longer live in such a world; nor should we. To do so is to be complicit with the damaging structures and violence perpetrated. When people like Bianca speak out, they enable others to find their voices. She is not acting in malice, unlike the woman who has gone crazy for over a thousand days and left scorched earth in her wake.
I’m going back to lurking while I sort my head out - this time of year is always difficult, and physical problems have compounded my own CPTSD - but I had to respond to that. And wish you all a very happy New Year.
Beautifully written ❤ thank you. If you are in the public eye, I think it takes courage to share something like this and as you’ve said due to B posting, it may help others.
 
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pretty sure she has claimed PTSD several times so far


tbh if you visit enough doctors it's easy to get a diagnosis. not accusing Bianca of this of course, but it'd be surprising if Alice hasnt gotten one yet (or at least tried). Going by how extensively she shopped for a fibro diagnosis (and yet by her own admission never got a definitive one) and that she has already implied to shop for therapists as well she clearly isnt too lazy for this.
It’s true, she just needs to read the diagnostic criteria and tell them all her ‘symptoms’ according to that you don’t have to be a Hollywood actress to do that 😉 . I’m surprised she didn’t get a diagnosis especially as she was paying so much to so many. I wonder if it was the pill prescriptions she was really after though.
 
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It’s a strange thing isn’t it. That we are strangers from around the world, coming together in the shared interest of one issue but turn to support each other. Does my heart good 🙏
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It’s true, she just needs to read the diagnostic criteria and tell them all her ‘symptoms’ according to that you don’t have to be a Hollywood actress to do that 😉 . I’m surprised she didn’t get a diagnosis especially as she was paying so much to so many. I wonder if it was the pill prescriptions she was really after though.
I’m guessing Alice got her diagnosis from Dr Google. That’s easy enough to get. 🙄
ETA to add Alice’s name for clarity.
 
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Didn't sockBro allude via tweet when Alun was doing the dragons marathon that Alun had previously been in love with Alice 🤔
I joke that you could put a skirt on a lamp post and my narc ex would be convinced it fancied him. I doubt Alice has ever met a man perhaps aside from her father who she doesn't think fancies her. She doesn't even realise how weird and gross it is when she praises herself to the skies when she's roleplaying on Tone's twitter.

@welp that fangirl/slash z list actress sounds like a hanger-on kissing ass in the hope it will get her something. Alice may have had some good people fooled in the beginning, but this far in, the only people supporting her have their own agenda, whether it's poking the bear for entertainment purposes, people who are as abusive or want to be abusive as she is, and predators and parasites using her the way she uses them. Water finds it's own level and the only people who support Alice these days are the ones who are as fucked in the head as she is.
 
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Interesting. Very interesting and very probable. In my non expert amateur only opinion. I suspect both though, heredity and nuture. And I agree one parent being simply a narcissist probably wouldnt do it to all three siblings.
off to read up on SPD
Don’t disagree but I am loathe to make assumptions about people when we know so very little about them. Plus most of them are entitled to privacy because they haven’t gotten involved.

I do know Alice is a total tit show and it’s reasonable to conclude she could be the cause of all the dysfunction in the family. Someone has to be the first. She probably wasn’t a “normal” kid and needed therapeutic intervention. However that wouldn’t have been offered in 70’s. Ironically normalcy in her family life could be why she is a fucked up horror show. They needed help.

Notably it is Ioan who pushes for outside help and intervention for his children whilst Alice resists and is antagonistic towards educators and medical professionals. At least the ones she can’t pay to do her bidding. This predates the separation. There are one or two red flags that it might have been necessary, again before the separation. There is no excuse it’s not the 70’s.


I agree about her father. He grey rocks her. If he was like her he would lock horns with her on a regular basis. That’s why I don’t see her behaviour coming from him.

I don’t know anything about her mother apart from that one picture. It’s odd they only have one picture in which she looks wasted. It wouldn’t be the picture I would use of my mum. Maybe it’s just because it has Alice in it that Alice uses it. This picture does make me wonder on many levels. Along with some of those weird Reddit posts about her mother being a narc. Which could be just more lies from Alice the liar.
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This post is a good example of the severe cognitive dissonance her fandom suffers from
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Alice harrassing Bianca for years, Bianca stays silent = Well done Alice for not staying silent, B is evil etc
Bianca making one post about the impact said harrassement (among many, she didnt even mention Alice) had on her, Alice directly reacts with victim blaming (earth to crazyland: this isnt "staying silent") = Well done Alice for staying silent, B is showing her true colors

What are her true colors? Arent you admitting this way that your idol was 1000000 times worse the past years?

And that's why this side will never be right.

also I found this old post of a Z-list actress that lives on Alice's iG: according to them Queen Alice is more famous than Ioan, and they have the gall to call Ioan's above average career "lacksture" while gushing over Alice's failure of a career
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even Queen Alice admitted that Ioan is rated 5-10 times higher. As everyone with a brain knows. Alice is best known for being married to him and this divorce drama. Ioan is far better known for some of his roles. Alice wasnt even the most popular actress in her own role in VD (she was written out of the story but not her character, remember). Facts.
I got a feed once about Favourite Lost characters and actresses. Aloise was not an favoured character. However she did get mentioned. Alice came last in the list of those who played Aloise. IIRC, there were 4 of them.

Their value and status as actors is in what they were paid. By and large Alice was making peanuts as someone who got episodic work in easily replaceable cast roles. Ioan was being paid at least 10x as much and he got lead roles. Hornblower was his role and he would be front runner if they made more. Like Sharpe it’s dad tv but because he is a Regency romantic figure it appeals all round. I didn’t watch Hornblower but it would be the best vehicle for Ioan. He could even recast himself in an older role.
 
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