in a way its sad: last year Deb & Lin organised a birthday campaign for her over days, this year no one is doing anything and no one seems to give a duck. They stopped doing this for Ioan last year due to siding with Alice in the divorce, but his birthday was still widely acknowledged online because he actually has real fans that dont give a duck about what happens in his personal life. When they banged on about how Ioan is nothing without their support the truth was always that it's Alice that depends on organized fans ("event fans") rather than having genuine fans