Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #108 Alice Evans - penniless and down to her last $20,000 Bulgari Watch

[ThisishowIlivenow]

God, I love the vocabulary I'm learning here every day.

Every day's a lesson

I’m not going to shade Alice for not going through the casting process with two young kids at home when her husband didn’t have work and was going through the same brutal process of getting it.
It isn’t like a normal job interview.
This part of what she says makes sense.
Refusing to get a ‘normal’ job when she no longer can jump back into the process is another thing. That’s unreasonable.

She was working when they were babies and he was out of work.
It's not unseen that two actors with small children can still audition is it? Especially since she harps on about giving up her career so much?

The thing is, with acting, you have representation looking for work for you, and hopefully, your own body of work makes you top of mind with casting agents, producers and show runners. A lot of actors take smaller parts because they want to work, they want to try character roles or parts they normally wouldn't be considered for, but they try to keep working. She's had mostly small (very small) roles, with the exception of Dalmations, The Christmas Card and The Vampire Diaries. That's out of some 42 or so roles as noted on IMDB. There was a story a while back in the threads about how she pitched a fit when she was kept waiting at an audition, her agent tried to talk sense into her and either she fired them or vice versa. Given what we've seen of Alice, I am betting she axed them. She doesn't like being told no, and no is something actors in particular have to get used to hearing. Plus the cruel reality is that it's tough for older actresses to get decent roles, older meaning anything over about 35. So she is behind that 8 ball as well.

If she had had a really robust career, even doing smaller parts but doing them well and being respected in the industry, the parts would have continued. It's worth stressing that her last role was in 2018 and she had small roles from the time Ella was born. She truly didn't give up a career in the sense of turning down roles and saying she didn't want to even be considered while her kids were young. She just wasn't and isn't getting the offers and now it seems she doesn't even have representation. Also interesting that she talks about needing to be away overnight. That would be for a bigger role in a more prestigious production than she would probably be considered for. Not being mean, just realistic. There are probably plenty of walk on or one or two line roles she could get right in LA but she would turn up her nose at those.

Put so much more eloquently than me, thank you

 

[TheNotoriousManzana]

You REALLY want it know dontcha???

You can admit it here, you are amongst friends

It's true, I love it. I'll look like the purple Teletubby as I 'step out' (Daily Mail style) putting on a knackered display with the kids in tow showcasing their ability to cause chaos

The thing is, with acting, you have representation looking for work for you, and hopefully, your own body of work makes you top of mind with casting agents, producers and show runners. A lot of actors take smaller parts because they want to work, they want to try character roles or parts they normally wouldn't be considered for, but they try to keep working. She's had mostly small (very small) roles, with the exception of Dalmations, The Christmas Card and The Vampire Diaries. That's out of some 42 or so roles as noted on IMDB. There was a story a while back in the threads about how she pitched a fit when she was kept waiting at an audition, her agent tried to talk sense into her and either she fired them or vice versa. Given what we've seen of Alice, I am betting she axed them. She doesn't like being told no, and no is something actors in particular have to get used to hearing. Plus the cruel reality is that it's tough for older actresses to get decent roles, older meaning anything over about 35. So she is behind that 8 ball as well.

If she had had a really robust career, even doing smaller parts but doing them well and being respected in the industry, the parts would have continued. It's worth stressing that her last role was in 2018 and she had small roles from the time Ella was born. She truly didn't give up a career in the sense of turning down roles and saying she didn't want to even be considered while her kids were young. She just wasn't and isn't getting the offers and now it seems she doesn't even have representation. Also interesting that she talks about needing to be away overnight. That would be for a bigger role in a more prestigious production than she would probably be considered for. Not being mean, just realistic. There are probably plenty of walk on or one or two line roles she could get right in LA but she would turn up her nose at those.

Strangely the kids go away on 3 day trips and overnight to the nanny-not-nanny...

 

[welp]

I’m not going to shade Alice for not going through the casting process with two young kids at home when her husband didn’t have work and was going through the same brutal process of getting it.
It isn’t like a normal job interview.
This part of what she says makes sense.
Refusing to get a ‘normal’ job when she no longer can jump back into the process is another thing. That’s unreasonable.

this particular incident was at the end of 2019. Back then Ioan was lead actor in two series.

that aside this whole argument is stupid anyway. I can understand her not working when the kids were babies, but the funny thing is she was still working when they were babies lol - the moment the kids are in kindergarten all excuses are gone because you have half the day off and the other half can be covered if need be with helping hands (they had two nannies back then, friends exists, based on one of her reddit posts she rejected his mom to fly to the USA to help her too) or when Ioan was home (with very few exceptions Alice has mostly only done a few episodes gigs after she had a number of movies pre-kids that were proper flops mostly, so it's not like she would have ever been months gone like he was) - somehow every other actor pair managed too

It is definitely not reasonable to start a fight with the Casting Director because you have to wait in a room like anyone else. If Alice had any career left this was the death sentence to it.

 

[Snotbuster]

SMDH. Why would you still want to hear or see the person you claim was abusive to you. She is such a liar. This is one moment of honesty though, but also a little sad. She still wants him back and she will never get over him leaving her.

If she wants to hear his voice, all she needs to do is rent Harrow, Hornblower, or any other IG vehicle. Easy peasy.

 

[Invictus]

Someone just donated $1,000 to mAlice's GFM.

It's right about time she can start accessing funds from GFM. I'm guessing we'll see a lot of large donations every 3-6 days. Withdraw funds. Donate anonymously, look like you're getting support. Also, the reason she doesn't do Patreon is that it is private. You have to pay to see content, she can't splash it all over to get the press (basically DM at this point) and attention she's craving.

 

[welp]

It's right about time she can start accessing funds from GFM. I'm guessing we'll see a lot of large donations every 3-6 days. Withdraw funds. Donate anonymously, look like you're getting support. Also, the reason she doesn't do Patreon is that it is private. You have to pay to see content, she can't splash it all over to get the press (basically DM at this point) and attention she's craving.

this is true, I however can see some people donating 1k or even more, crazy fans that think they get that way attention are pretty common, I actually expected it far earlier.

 

[TheNotoriousManzana]

There has to be absolutely no chance, I don't think Ioan is that silly - he has been in the game way too long.
It would be such a bad PR move for them - imagine possessed Alice spinning that one for the papers 'won't even see or support his own kids but got his new floozy preggers within a couple of years! Sob sob *mad eyes* sob *Gurning face* Sob.'
They really need to let the dust settle before they start bringing new additions into this tit storm.
She'd probably just had a really nice meal!

Not that it's any of my business what Bianca choose to do with her uterus, but pregnancy seems unlikely when, at the moment, Bianca is having flares of her condition and in a stressful period. She will likely be taking several
medications to control symptoms and it's also likely that some of these medications won't be suitable for pregnancy. Again, of course I don't know for sure but that's my speculation.

 

[welp]

Okay, who of you is Brenda Power from the Irish Daily Mail, this is by a mile the best take I've seen from any media person on this divorce.

 

[plinky2]

I’m not going to shade Alice for not going through the casting process with two young kids at home when her husband didn’t have work and was going through the same brutal process of getting it.
It isn’t like a normal job interview.
This part of what she says makes sense.
Refusing to get a ‘normal’ job when she no longer can jump back into the process is another thing. That’s unreasonable.

I don’t shade her for not going for endless auditions when she has kids

But I do shade anyone in her position who has clearly given absolutely no thought or effort into any kind of ‘back up’ career for the best part of a decade after she decided to take a step back to have kids. What did she think was going to happen? She got her degree in languages then travelled and acted using them. She then moved to an English speaking country, had kids in her 40’s and has invested zero time in exploring any other creative/talent avenues. She has literally sat on her ass. This is an incredibly stupid decision. It is also revolting she had so many good contacts in the industry (Piers, etc) and has wasted every single opportunity she ever had

Setting up a podcast on womens issues or something is not costly or much effort when your kids are in bed, neither is writing and pitching your writing from the comfort of your own home via email, or even influencing via Instagram. Almost all actors and models before they make it huge (and even often after) have sideline projects going on, from selling shampoo on IG to writing scripts, being a personal assistant, getting a job on a set, learning to edit videos, investing in other people projects, building a platform etc. I can name you dozens of actors who have gone into a business on the side in wine, catering, production (Ioan seems to maybe be going this way)

Now not only is she still doing none of the above, she also won’t even consider a normal job. 2 years ago she probably could have monetised her Insta for a certain age female demographic and got a load of free tit to promote from beside the pool, but she's too lazy to even do that.

 

[ButterTart]

I’m not going to shade Alice for not going through the casting process with two young kids at home when her husband didn’t have work and was going through the same brutal process of getting it.
It isn’t like a normal job interview.
This part of what she says makes sense.
Refusing to get a ‘normal’ job when she no longer can jump back into the process is another thing. That’s unreasonable.

If you're a working actor, you go through the casting process. Why wouldn't she have also tried to find work when he wasn't getting any offers? That doesn't make a lot of sense. And while she had two young kids at home, she had two women there - one nanny (this is pre-Gloria) and a housekeeper. And if Ioan was home as well ... no excuses, sorry.

 

[welp]

Setting up a podcast on womens issues or something is not costly or much effort when your kids are in bed, neither is writing and pitching your writing from the comfort of your own home via email, or even influencing via Instagram. Almost all actors and models before they make it huge (and even often after) have sideline projects going on, from selling shampoo on IG to writing scripts, being a personal assistant, getting a job on a set, learning to edit videos, investing in other people projects, building a platform etc. I can name you dozens of actors who have gone into a business on the side in wine, catering, production (Ioan seems to maybe be going this way)

Now not only is she still doing none of the above, she also won’t even consider a normal job. 2 years ago she probably could have monetised her Insta for a certain age female demographic and got a load of free tit to promote from beside the pool, but she's too lazy to even do that.

the issue is also now, even if she suddenly decides to do any of this stuff she will legally probably have some issues with it because she likely will not be able to hold herself from ranting about her husband along the way. It's quite telling that the only "job" she currently seems to consider is to write a (certainly) defamatory book about her husband LMAO.

Had she used her time to become a content creator instead of fighting every day on twitter against everyone she would have loads of stability now despite the divorce (perhaps she wouldn't even get divorced given that the SM addiction seemed to be a deal breaker between them)

As much as a I think that her etsy shop was a crime against humanity at least that was a proper way to generate income. As was the cameo (even if the digs about her husband there were pathetic), but both requires to actually do something.

 

[Endora]

It's right about time she can start accessing funds from GFM. I'm guessing we'll see a lot of large donations every 3-6 days. Withdraw funds. Donate anonymously, look like you're getting support.

I dunno. Alice and Ioan know wealthy people. I can see someone throwing her a grand, even if they don't want to deal with her directly or have their name attached to the money. It would be someone's good deed for the day.

I don't know why I think this, but I'm wondering if there is a sum of money deposited into her account the first of each month - the Ioan version of Social Security - to cover the usual bills, and her current crisis is because she ran through June's money too fast.

 

[peteburnsreincarnated]

I think she might get the 25k.
She hasn’t even shared the link yet so many people won’t donate until an official link is shared by herself.
Pretty sad about it tbh, that someone like her can get 25k without lifting a finger.

 

[welp]

I think she might get the 25k.
She hasn’t even shared the link yet so many people won’t donate until an official link is shared by herself.
Pretty sad about it tbh, that someone like her can get 25k without lifting a finger.

well, although I think she is the scum of the earth for asking for donations for nothing when she has a bloody nanny and refuses to work you have to give it to her: why should she lift a finger if she has supporters dumb enough to sponsor her lifestyle? She did (unreliably) Cameos over months and it got her less. A honest job would get her less too. A guest role somewhere would get her less (around 7-10 k I reckon). It's only press stories about her husband that get her perhaps more.

in a way it's satisfying that those people get scammed hard, they deserve it for cheerleading on an abuser (I just feel bad for the few who just saw the story briefly on Lorraine for example and didnt saw any of her horrific abuse)

 

[plinky2]

the issue is also now, even if she suddenly decides to do any of this stuff she will legally probably have some issues with it because she likely will not be able to hold herself from ranting about her husband along the way. It's quite telling that the only "job" she currently seems to consider is to write a (certainly) defamatory book about her husband LMAO.

Had she used her time to become a content creator instead of fighting every day on twitter against everyone she would have loads of stability now despite the divorce (perhaps she wouldn't even get divorced given that the SM addiction seemed to be a deal breaker between them)

As much as a I think that her etsy shop was a crime against humanity at least that was a proper way to generate income. As was the cameo (even if the digs about her husband there were pathetic), but both requires to actually do something.

Exactly; she’s done for
And I can’t see that this wasn’t an issue for Ioan. It’s actually got to be pretty scary to agree to ‘take turns’ in a very fickle, ageist industry. I’m not sure I really blame him for allegedly reneging on the deal, a job is a job and families cost money to raise you have to take what you can get. Ioan spent time learning producing/directing because he’s ageing and knows he needs a backup

 

[lulooo]

So Ioan

Spoiler: merail & rant. long.

I had to step away y/day as this evil witch is doing my head in on so many levels. Her GFM has triggered me a lot.

There is a point to this. I am reliant on UC (benefits) as my small private pension doesn't come close to covering my rent (sheltered housing flat)& I'm not eligible for state pension for a few more years which will be minimal anyway so I'll then need to apply for different benefits to cover the rent because of certain long term circumstances in my life (not going into it) let's just say the well known phrase "no good deed goes unpunished" is sadly true. It cost me everything, incl' my sanity as I had a MH breakdown, was suicidal & in a black hole for a long time. Don't get me wrong, I'm very grateful for the £££ as I would still be *homeless otherwise. (*separate event years later) But like many others I'm reliant on a cold Gov't machine that doesn't see us as human beings. We are at their mercy & this was demonstrated to me last year mid Dec when they made a cock up, couldn't be bothered to either ring me & double check or ask me on my UC journal or God forbid check their damn records, they just cut my £ off with no warning. I had just £5 to my name. I was stressed out of my mind, their only response was to give me the number of the nearest food bank while they looked into it which took until the start of the NY when they re-paid me. A dear friend (bless her) had to lend me £££ just so I could survive December.

I have cut back on so much, my only 'luxury' (vice) are cigs of which I make my own as it's 3 x cheaper, I don't get food shopping every week, can't afford it, every food shop is spent checking receipts & adding up what items I can or can't afford & like everyone else in the UK there's huge increases in the cost of food, electricity, gas & petrol. I'm all electric & stopped driving years ago but my electric bill has tripled & every month I am juggling & struggling as there is always some extra unexpected expense & I'm sick of living like this. I worked hard to clear the remaining personal bits from a storage unit (needed when I was made homeless) so this month I would have an extra £78 which to me is a LOT of £. That's been swallowed up by my electricity charges with some more added on top. I've switched all my bills to DD, done so much to try & help myself but I'm still struggling & juggling every bleeping month.

And no I don't want to stop smoking. I've smoked for over 40 years, its my only 'luxury' & due to Diabetes t2 I have an enormous amount of weight to lose & that is difficult & stressful enough. The weight piled on after a lot of health issues. I can't work due to other health issues, incl' fatigue.
I live a fair distance from any shops so if I need an an ATM, the PO, etc I have to pay out for a cab. I get home delivery for food but often can't afford the £30 minimum so I go without & make do. I rarely go out. I'm not a materialistic person but like most people there are things I would like to get but I can't afford to. I would like to be able to afford to use a collect & deliver laundry service but that's out the question. We're not allowed washing machines & have to use the small laundry & we get one or two time slots per week (if other residents don't nick them - don't get me started on that!) & a machine for anyone to use which of course is very popular!
I'm on the first floor so to do my laundry it means either a walk to the lift carrying it all or 6 trips down & up a flight of stairs. Down - put in washing hour cycle. Back up to flat. Down-remove & transfer to drier. Back up. Down to collect then back up & more often than not I am too tired & in too much pain with my back to do it so it builds up. I can't walk far (or stand) without bad back pain due to the return of kidney stones & I'm currently waiting for my 3rd Op in 3 years. I only had the last lot removed end of Sept. I'm not looking for sympathy, there's loads more people a lot worse off than me & many have kids to feed & I have single friends like me who are also struggling. I had to borrow more £ from a friend last month & God knows when I can pay her back & while she says it's not a problem it makes me feel so goddamn worthless & ashamed. I never thought in a million years this is how the last chapter of my life would be. I had waited so long just to finally get a life of my own.
But the point of this merail comes back to Alice.

A lazy entitled greedy lying malicious mother bleeping Narc witch setting up a GFM as a way to shame Ioan, to piss on his MC appearance, to make him look like the worst father going & it's working & it makes me want to SCREAM. She's spent years living a life of privilege, sitting on her arse in a $2 million house with a pool, nanny, food services, cosmetic procedures (like her revolting lip fillers) constant take outs, Ella in a top school, a car & God knows how many bottles of booze a week, designer clothes, jewellery & ALL of it paid for by Ioan & all she can do is fake poverty as a way of getting back at him. HOW bleeping DARE SHE? What kind of world even allows an abuser with a bleeping TRO to get away with tit like this?

She has two beautiful girls who she wouldn't even have but for Ioan. Yet she's causing them & Ioan so much trauma just because of her pathetic ego, the Narcissistic injury of losing control of her victim who she abused for YEARS & is still being allowed to abuse. She's a bleeping disgrace.
The depths of my loathing, contempt & disgust for this vile witch runs very bleeping deep. I wouldn't cross the road to piss on her if she was on fire.

I can relate to @tropeonarope when she said about even feeling anger to those offering her a kind word because I am the same.
She doesn't deserve people feeling sorry for her or feeling sympathy or offering well meaning advice.
This is Alice FFS & we've all seen what she thinks of well meaning advice!
But she's still getting it, still getting support, still getting people taking her word as gospel & spewing bile at Ioan because of her LIES.
She deserves NOTHING. Or at least nothing that is good. And I say that as a compassionate empathetic person by nature but I have none for Alice.

This is someone whose recent reply to a poor woman with terminal cancer was to immediately turn it back to herself & how women who have been blind sided are more likely to develop cancer & how ill she feels & she must see a Doctor.
THIS is who people are feeling sorry for.
THIS is who people want to help & feel sympathy for.
THIS is who people feel sad for.
What part of what they see don't they understand? She has shown who she is over & over & over again. I just don't get it.
This is not a woman who wants advice. She sees nothing wrong with her behaviour.
This is not a woman who will wake up one morning, have an epiphany about what an absolute vile bleep she is, feel genuine remorse & want to make amends. She knows exactly what she is doing but she doesn't care! Alice only cares about Alice.
This is not a woman who will embrace serious psychiatric help, open herself up to genuine painful soul searching & self reflection & then put in the daily work let alone years of work needed just to try & manage her NPD. Anyone who thinks she would is bleeping dreaming.
She could manage a display of effort if she thought it would get her something she wanted but it wouldn't be genuine. The only genuine things about her are her rage, hate, maliciousness, her lying & thirst for revenge.
Her alcoholism is a separate matter & doesn't change her basic nature which is bad to the bone.
She's a hollow shell of a human being. She doesn't even know what love really feels like because she's incapable of it.
People are just possessions to her to be used then discarded if they don't continue to support her which for Alice means blow smoke up her arse, tell her how wonderful she is & what an amazing mother she is, etc.

If her GFM is allowed to remain & if she is allowed to have the $$$ from it then I truly despair. I am sick of seeing her get away with her continued abuse of Ioan & her PA of the girls which is also abuse. I am sick of her never facing any real consequences for her behaviour.
She is truly a waste of oxygen as she brings nothing good or positive to this world. I've said it before, she's a human wrecking ball who leaves pain in her wake & she knows it but she doesn't care. She thrives on it. Those people still feeling sorry for her are enablers, abuse apologists.
Shame on them & most of all shame on Alice but that's something else she doesn't feel. I hope one day she rots in the hell of her own making.

"When someone shows you who they are, believe them the first time." - Maya Angelou.

Spoiler

oh sweet @Just William, you are such a gorgeous and empathetic soul it breaks my heart to think of you suffering in this way. Please know that you are very much loved and appreciated here. I love your posts, even the very angry with the swivel eyed one. You make our little community what it is, a funny, wicked, and very kind place to be. I, and the rest of us are here for you always, if you want to rant, need support, or a shoulder to cry on. You show such fortitude and courage, unlike malice who couldn’t walk one minute in your shoes. I love you sweetheart and am so glad that we met on here

 

[plinky2]

I think she might get the 25k.
She hasn’t even shared the link yet so many people won’t donate until an official link is shared by herself.
Pretty sad about it tbh, that someone like her can get 25k without lifting a finger.

She will just waste it though, more fool them. If she even pays a lawyer. I hope she does get £25k, she’s going to bloody need it she has nothing now, the house equity is being eroded daily

 

[AnneinHever]

I’m not going to shade Alice for not going through the casting process with two young kids at home when her husband didn’t have work and was going through the same brutal process of getting it.
It isn’t like a normal job interview.
This part of what she says makes sense.
Refusing to get a ‘normal’ job when she no longer can jump back into the process is another thing. That’s unreasonable.

But she was auditioning up to three years ago. This is when she had a massive fight with a producer because they kept her waiting!

 

[sallygsoton]

I don’t think I or B are famous enough that paps would be there waiting for them, it was very clearly a staged shot but good for them if that’s what they want to do. It’s a shame that now Alice couldn‘t even get paid for a pap walk, could be a good side hustle but she gives all the mess away for free on SM

Paps wait in all big airports to photograph anyone they can make a few quid from.

Celebs, politicians, reality tv Z listers, you only need to look in the Daily Fail to see that.

I imagine anyone heading towards the VIP area gets their photos taken, most will get junked, some will sell.

I can see no reason at all to think ANYONE set these shots up.

Paps LIVE in airports just on the off chance of getting a photo that a newspaper will pick up.

 

[plinky2]

I suppose with the film festival it was inevitable that celebs would be flying from LAX to go there?