Ioan Gruffudd & Alice Evans #108 Alice Evans - penniless and down to her last $20,000 Bulgari Watch

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I completely understand that she does not want to sell her watch due to sentimental reasons but at the same time. When us ‘commoners’ have something that has monetary value and are in deep financial ruin, have kids that are genuinely hungry and starving (her words) you do not really have a choice but to sell/pawn it..
 
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I completely understand that she does not want to sell her watch due to sentimental reasons but at the same time. When us ‘commoners’ have something that has monetary value and are in deep financial ruin, have kids that are genuinely hungry and starving (her words) you do not really have a choice but to sell/pawn it..
I had to sell my beloved flute that I’d had since childhood a few years back as I had to feed the kids. I’d done everything to keep it but it was the only thing left of any value. Broke my heart. I’ve never played the flute since. Sell the bloody watch!!
 
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I completely understand that she does not want to sell her watch due to sentimental reasons but at the same time. When us ‘commoners’ have something that has monetary value and are in deep financial ruin, have kids that are genuinely hungry and starving (her words) you do not really have a choice but to sell/pawn it..
Why the fck does she need a watch anyway ? It’s always feckin wine o’clock round hers
 
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I had to sell my beloved flute that I’d had since childhood a few years back as I had to feed the kids. I’d done everything to keep it but it was the only thing left of any value. Broke my heart. I’ve never played the flute since. Sell the bloody watch!!
This! Of course this broke your heart! But you did what you needed to do. 99% of the people who are in her situation do not even have something valuable to sell! I would drop on my bear knees and thank god if I was in her postion knowing I had a watch or anything else (that I don’t even really need ) that was worth a minimum year salary!
 
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well, if Ioan abused and treated her terribly like she claims selling the watch should be fairly easy emotionally
 
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this particular incident was at the end of 2019. Back then Ioan was lead actor in two series.

that aside this whole argument is stupid anyway. I can understand her not working when the kids were babies, but the funny thing is she was still working when they were babies lol - the moment the kids are in kindergarten all excuses are gone because you have half the day off and the other half can be covered if need be with helping hands (they had two nannies back then, friends exists, based on one of her reddit posts she rejected his mom to fly to the USA to help her too) or when Ioan was home (with very few exceptions Alice has mostly only done a few episodes gigs after she had a number of movies pre-kids that were proper flops mostly, so it's not like she would have ever been months gone like he was) - somehow every other actor pair managed too

It is definitely not reasonable to start a fight with the Casting Director because you have to wait in a room like anyone else. If Alice had any career left this was the death sentence to it.
But they are babies. Alice says so all of the time :p

OK, so she'll eventually reach 25k to pay her lawyer's fees. Then what?
Hei monkeys, can I get 50k for more lawyer's fees?
She won't be able to renew GFMs forever either. At some point people will get tired of that, too.
 
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I don't think she ever loved him because she's a narcissist - and they're incapable of lovd. What she's grieving and rating over is the fact that she's lost her prized possession. Never dump a narc - they'll never let it go, obsess over it, and do all they can to get revenge.
Apologies for all the misspells - am in hideous pain today; not fair because it's such a beautiful, glorious day!!
 
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100 percent true, especially in any city where there are a lot of productions going on. Vancouver, Toronto, Atlanta, even here in Chicago. Paps and autograph sellers, hanging out in Airports like cockroaches you can’t get rid of. Maybe even ten years ago I’d say they’d probably called someone, but now there are so many media sites looking for pics of anyone who’s remotely famous those vultures are camping out anywhere they might find some content.

(Hi Sally! 👋🏻👋🏻)
Hi lovely Jobellecee! I was afraid we had lost you amongst all the Malice trauma, so glad you are still here ♥
 
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Absolutely. I have six hours of classes tomorrow, which is difficult - I'm going through a really bad arthritis flare at the moment and sleep is torture, because my knees seize in the middle of the night, which is simply exhausting - but would I let my kids down? Would I hell!!
You and I might know each other in real life or frequent the same SM pages 😂😂😂😂😂
 
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Alice could easily do a podcast, maybe one that shows her journey on how to start again in mid life after divorce. She could interview different people, try out new fitness ideas etc, how to regroup, dating again, managing the kids and having a life (Gloria would be gone by then) She would have to stop herself from slamming IG and BW so it might be a big ask.

Instagram - she says she would find it difficult to advertise a product she doesn’t like. She’s an actress. Fake it. It’s not as if she is adverse to the odd fib.
She could do a vlog on her 'recovery' from the divorce too - getting in shape (and working with a personal trainer), learning to do makeup properly, learning how to cook delicious and nutritious food, advice from specialists on healthy sleep patterns and SM use, documenting her illnesses and search for work, beginners' classes in French and Italian and so on.
But she won't.
 
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I think she might get the 25k.
She hasn’t even shared the link yet so many people won’t donate until an official link is shared by herself.
Pretty sad about it tbh, that someone like her can get 25k without lifting a finger.
Be interesting to see what excuse she comes up with when she hasn't got a lawyer to represent her though and the money gone 🤔
 
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Maybe because they haven’t gotten as far as custody is the reason one hasn’t already been assigned to them. This hearing that Alice is using to scam money from hardworking people is only for the TRO, Alice is lying and telling the GoFundMe group the money is for a lawyer for the divorce. Is she going to try and do another GoFundMe for the divorce and custody hearings, I wouldn’t doubt it. She has no shame, self respect or dignity. The only reason I side eye Ioan is because he lived with her for almost 20 years knowing what a pathetic waste of humanity she is. 😏
I was 15 years with my emotional abuser. And that was without kids. It's hard to leave when you start to believe them that you are nothing. 😥
 
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Be interesting to see what excuse she comes up with when she hasn't got a lawyer to represent her though and the money gone 🤔
The excuse when people who donated start asking questions? Her ex husband did a YouTube course on hacking and hacked her bank account and took all the money. He did that while in Monaco.
 
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The excuse when people who donated start asking questions? Her ex husband did a YouTube course on hacking and hacked her bank account and took all the money. He did that while in Monaco.
Do they not have to pay back any donations if GFM deem she’s a scammer ? I’m really not up to speed with that so I’m sure it’s already been looked at by them
 
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well, if Ioan abused and treated her terribly like she claims selling the watch should be fairly easy emotionally
I sold my 2 carat diamond and all the other diamond gifts over the years and felt like a curse had been lifted. 😂🤷🏻‍♀️
 
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This! Of course this broke your heart! But you did what you needed to do. 99% of the people who are in her situation do not even have something valuable to sell! I would drop on my bear knees and thank god if I was in her postion knowing I had a watch or anything else (that I don’t even really need ) that was worth a minimum year salary!
Well, her children never starved so she doesn’t need to sell the watch. She’s lying and I can barely stop myself from swearing again! What a bleep this woman is! Oops…
 
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This is so frustrating I am going to need to take a break. I have a really horrible foreboding that the damage is done, he will never see his girls again and Alice will be ranting about him for the rest of her bitter and twisted life. I am also getting fed up with Ioan. I do not agree that there are not things he could have done to force the situation earier, given his knowledge of her alcohol (and possibly pill) abuse. If Alice is truly as bad as we all think she is, it is appalling that she is their only carer and has been for nearly two years. The only thing that could possibly help this situation is if Alice got a DUI and was forced into rehab and wearing an alcohol monitor. Sadly though, it seems she will get away with it all, leaving carnage and misery in her wake.
👏🏼 On all points
 
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The thing is, with acting, you have representation looking for work for you, and hopefully, your own body of work makes you top of mind with casting agents, producers and show runners. A lot of actors take smaller parts because they want to work, they want to try character roles or parts they normally wouldn't be considered for, but they try to keep working. She's had mostly small (very small) roles, with the exception of Dalmations, The Christmas Card and The Vampire Diaries. That's out of some 42 or so roles as noted on IMDB. There was a story a while back in the threads about how she pitched a fit when she was kept waiting at an audition, her agent tried to talk sense into her and either she fired them or vice versa. Given what we've seen of Alice, I am betting she axed them. She doesn't like being told no, and no is something actors in particular have to get used to hearing. Plus the cruel reality is that it's tough for older actresses to get decent roles, older meaning anything over about 35. So she is behind that 8 ball as well.

If she had had a really robust career, even doing smaller parts but doing them well and being respected in the industry, the parts would have continued. It's worth stressing that her last role was in 2018 and she had small roles from the time Ella was born. She truly didn't give up a career in the sense of turning down roles and saying she didn't want to even be considered while her kids were young. She just wasn't and isn't getting the offers and now it seems she doesn't even have representation. Also interesting that she talks about needing to be away overnight. That would be for a bigger role in a more prestigious production than she would probably be considered for. Not being mean, just realistic. There are probably plenty of walk on or one or two line roles she could get right in LA but she would turn up her nose at those.
I was thinking that there are plenty of actors you see on television, both in the UK and US, whose faces are vaguely familiar but of whom you've never heard. They are the background players such as shop staff, cops, etc who have a couple of lines, but they are obviously reliable and professional because they keep getting those small parts.

However, Alice wouldn't accept those parts because she doesn’t see herself as a jobbing actor but a STAR. Same as she won't get herself a job, any job, between or instead of acting roles.
 
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If it’s not her money to start with why would she care?
GoFundMe charges of 2.9% + $0.30 per donation. If she re-donates, she's giving money to GoFundMe that she could keep for herself. Someone donates $1000=she receives $970.70. If she re-donates that $970.70 to herself, GoFundMe will take $28.45 for their share. Not much, to be sure, and it's her money to spend how she wishes, but I'd rather have the money than prove a worthless point.
 
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