I've gone back in...
Thank you for this write up. I will be LIVID. LIVID if any rehab/ positive PR from the King is going to be actioned. There’s this thing called loyalty. It’s boring and vanilla but William has it in bucketloads as does Catherine. They are the reason the monarchy will survive so if the King were to cause them any additional stress on top of what W and C are going through, any goodwill I have for him will disintegrate.Thank you Dan Dan and Thalia for the thread and title.
BookWorm from last thread.
Thanks @LadyMuck
BookWorm said the following is a conclusion, as a result of information coming from around BP through a retired journalist and two others.
Discussions about contingency plans have been held in case trouble arises from Harald's friendships, visa problems or marriage, and they have to leave the US. KC wants above all to have the Stoat back under his wing but accepts that he'll have to take the Ho as well.
The two problems are the Ho and William. Chuck admires the Ho's tenacity but doesn't trust her. C is willing to forgive his son because of his difficult childhood.
The other problem is William. He was targeted most in Spare, and Catherine too. The Sussexes have been attacking the Waleses since before the wedding. Six years.
Chuck is stubborn and obstinate, and knows it will be very difficult to reintegrate the Stoat into royal life. William and the public are not so fickle and forgiving as Chuck thinks.
If the Stoat is deported it will be a massive scandal about criminal drug use. If Crown Estates allowed it the Stoat could be given a grace-and-favour property by his father. Is Chuck really working on a contingency plan with his Privy Council and the Sussexes? BookWorm thinks it's possible. The Ho is seeking a UK PR company, says it's for ARO but BookWorm doesn't believe it.
KC has decided to use the same tactics he used to rehabilitate Camilla, so only positive Stoat PR from the media, but he had Mark Bolland and the Ho is a very different woman. BookWorm believes we're in for a huge PR push, driven not by the Sussexes but by the Palace. Ease the Stoats in, get us used to them....
Articles about William and the Stoat are an attempt to force William to comply, but may have the opposite effect, he will be angry, and will be guided by Catherine's health. BookWorm feels that the Monarchy lost its shine for William some time back, and that he's only soldiering on because of his grandparents HM and PP.
We must be vigilent about gaslighting.
It's great that there's been almost an explosion of people on SM bringing all this surrogacy issue up again. It really does need to be officially sorted with legal proof of birth and DNA.
What I find telling is when haz said babies change so much in 2 weeks, then looked chagrined. And that baby never moved even a smidge. I visted with new parents whose tiny baby just came home from the NICU. Even when he was sleeping he responded to touch. They touch that shawl's little head, and zero response. Something is not legit, there are simply too many discrepancies from these proven liars.
Yes, to a large extent. I was so angry (as well as sad) on Catherine's behalf. It really cleared my mind about what's important here.
Random thought that came into my head just now: Harry gives me the ick so much, yet his brother William is dashing and lovely. I'd say yes to one and helllllll no to the other. I just can't imagine anyone wanting to cozy up to Haz, he always looks like he smells of stale sweat and booze, dishevelled, selfish etc. There's no way Meghan was actually attracted to him. Just his $$$ and fame.
Yes I think you've explained that very well - rehabilitating Camilla really is nothing like rehabilitating H&M. It isn't posisble - as you say - H&M have deliberately set out to undermine the RF. There isn't anyone comparable to them - they are seen by the general UK public as traitors who have badmouthed all of us on the world stage.Pulled over from last thread:
Yes, indeed, thank you for your reaction to Bookie's latest. It's very much mine too... Like, MY GOD! YOU CANNOT BE SERIOUS!
Bookie drew some comparisons between Chuck's determination to have Camilla as his wife and restoring the stoats' reputations and bringing them back.
Bookie put the successful Camilla installation down to Chuck's PR chap Mark Bolland.
Actually, I don't think there's any comparison between the stoat and Camilla situations at all. The only common denominator in the two situations is Chuck's profound, self-serving determination to have his own way, regardless of the opinions of and cost to the Monarchy, the nation, the public and everybody else.
Bookie was wrong in that it wasn't really Bolland's ceaseless spinning that made Camilla more acceptable to the public. If Chuck thinks that, he's as deluded as his stoat son.
The key difference is that Camilla never once made any sort of comment, let alone criticism, about the Monarchy or any member of the RF. Neither did she seek any sort of publicity for herself.
She never retaliated against the many who attacked her.
So, all the public really 'had against her' was that she'd been adulterously involved with the man who was married to the world's most glamourous 'Princess of Hearts'.
The thing with that adultery rationale is that it's very relatable.
I don't think we have an up-to-date count but it's likely that millions of Brits have been unfaithful to their spouses.
We don't like it because of the enormous pain and disruption it causes all round.
But still, many humans do it regardless.
We could tolerate Chuck and Camilla's transgressions and even accept them- fuelled by Chuck's thoroughly unbending determination that we would relent.
Markle is a completely different kettle of fish.
From the very start, she was manufacturing lies against the media, the public, the RF, the UK. She's relentlessly continued to do so. Aided by the captured dimwit stoat and the army of cracked and vicious supporter bot people.
She is relatable only to similarly nasty-minded, deluded people, not to the vast majority of decent Brits.
Imo, no amount of Chuck's self-serving determination to restore his dimwit son to anything like his former position will do the trick this time. Markle, in all her cruel narcissistic hubris went far too far for the British public to have her and the stoat back.
Bookie's right in this: it would be the final nail in the Monarchy's coffin if this evil pair were welcomed back.
Chuck has lost this one.
Years ago, when I was teaching communications, including non-verbal communications, to business students I was intrigued to learn that the vulnerable inner wrist exposure gesture smegs is using there signifies submission and 'come hither' to the object of her interest. Not only is she signalling her availability, she's also grooming herself (a vestigial attempt at making herself more presentable to the object of desire).
I don't think 'the racist royals made me use a surrogate so the kids would be white' would fly for 10 minutes. The only people who'll believe that are the sugars, plus a few anti monarchists and BLM obsessives. Everyone else will know its bullshit.
Did the father of your baby say, "My love, I need you to push" and, if he did, how long did it take for him to recover from his injuries?
Should be called sluts!Suits the biggest show in the world? , what rubbish
Anything to stay newsworthy and generate PR. I wonder if the press will ever tire of the 'will they, won't they' narrative on every event? The constant insulting of the UK with the implication that their children aren't safe because they are mixed race has got to wear thin sometime. Maybe Harry will refuse to come as well...that would be nice.
Imagine the Oprah interview.They couldn’t even wrestle her into a pair of tights for goodness sake
