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LunaArthur

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Did anyone read their website? It was so passive aggressive! I can’t help it feel it was written by Meghan, it was so clumsy and unprofessional. The bit about Meghan needling security because of her own “independent profile”... she only needs security because of Harry, no one knew who she was before they started dating!!
 
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StephenTJackson

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I think the Queen has played a masterstroke with all of this. She allowed the marriage, would’ve been a PR disaster if she didn’t. Basically gave them what they wanted in terms of quitting active duty and allowed them to keep certain perks. But in doing so has given them strict conditions to those perks, and thus has given them the rope to hang themselves on. Meaning they had the perks, and with every stupid action they take, the Queen punishes them by taking a little bit back each time. All while keeping the British public broadly speaking onside because she has been seen to be giving them what they want in terms of letting them go, but not letting them have all the perks and financial benefits of staying.
 
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PennyCrayon

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As I understand it, a non-profit company can pay out some or all its taxable income to the owners as compensation but must keep,any other “retained earnings” invested for use as future operational finds. So, if the non profit made £10k it could pay this to the owners as compensation for their work on the company’s business. Just a tax gimmick. It differs from a charitable foundation. If it quacks like a duck......

An example of a good non profit might be a private daycare centre that sets its fees so that they bring in just enough to pay staff and operating expenses without accruing an unnecessary nest egg. Unfortunately use of this corporate setup has become commonplace by so-called charities and groups promoting causes. It makes them look innocent because people get fooled by the Non-profit wording.
Exactly. Spoke on the last thread about CEO’s of charities who earn ridiculous sums of money. I dread to think what Harry and Meghan will want paying from them.

The thing is they could have done exactly the same sort of work if they had stayed within the royal family. If they had causes close to their hearts, all they had to do was have a chat with the queen and I’m sure they would have got what they wanted. They could have gone off to Africa without the cameras and just helped them, or worked with abused women, the homeless, army vets - anything. But they chose to leave and set up rentaroyal.com. Which tells me it’s not about charity, it’s about money.

Their decision to leave was blamed on the press. But I didn’t see her being chased by paps, topless pictures while on holiday, trying to get pics of Archie. None of that. And yes, the press can be total arses who will print anything but Harry and Meghan weren’t here for the press. They were here to serve their (his) country and his family and the people of the uk. That’s who they’ve turned their backs on. Because the press will be there whichever country they are in.

Sorry, I’m rambling. I just can’t seem to make sense of them at all.
 
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freda19

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I dont actually dislike either of them. They have had negative press right from the start. No wonder they have pissed off to do What they want.
Not true. They were feted and cheered and everyone was hoping for this fairy tale to have a happy ending. Instead we got a nightmare of tantrums and whining and complaining and lecturing everyone on how to fix the world, while they themselves did the opposite. She's an ex stripper, alleged yact girl who used the power of the pussy to hook a big baby man child, and her true character was always going to come out. She just speeded up the process with her big gob.
I hope the Queen removes all his titles and his potential to ever ever rule us. He's a disgrace turning on his own family in the way he has. They blagged their million dollar wedding and all the freebies while secretly planning to scam his family.Once they're stripped back to the nothings they are they won't need the security our taxes are providing. Cut them loose and leave them to flounder like fish out of water.
For all her big mouthing at the Queen she hadn't the balls to come over with Ginger to promote their crap travel site.
A soft porn c list actress and a dud bloke with no brains, they deserve each other.
 
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vikka

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I dont actually dislike either of them. They have had negative press right from the start. No wonder they have pissed off to do What they want.
Yes, they have indeed had bad press, but a lot of it was on point (eg their hypocrisy, the way they (M actually) treat staff, which led to a mass-exodus of nannies, assistants etc).

The press is vile, so there's no excuse for the press when they do bully, but comparatively Meghan's had it easy. I didn't track all the stories and won't now (unless someone offers to pay me!), but to my memory it was calling them out on cost of their wardrobe, hypocrisy by lecturing plebs on travel whilst using private jets and having extravagant baby showers etc, stories on how they treat staff, gossip on family wars (H & Will not getting along), her attitude towards her role within the family and institution, the shyte-show in how they handled Archie's first few months (no release of godparents' names, no pic, utter secrecy around his birth) etc all of which has been pretty much true.

Now compare that to what Diana has gone through (yeah she also collaborated and called them, but just think of the abuse and hounding she was subjected to as teenager and in her early 20s when she was in no way capable of dealing with all that and didn't want the intrusion either), Fergie who was called "duchess of Pork" by the press when she gained weight (that is proper bullying, especially by today's standards, but even then absolutely appalling) and way more than just the name calling, what Camilla has gone through (she was even attacked by normal people in the street, called the worst names by press and public, I think she was even spat on) and what Kate and her family have also gone through.

I am not much of a fan of any of them tbh, but they've all been insulted by the press, hounded and had their private lives taken apart by the press and the public via a trial by the media, some deserved (not the degree of harshness, mind, but reporting on missteps for instance should be allowed), but much of it not ("duchess of Pork", "the Rottweiler", "Waity Katie", "Middle class Middletons".. I mean, really? was all that necessary?).

By comparison Meghan hasn't even had that level of intrusion and no name calling whatsoever. She claimed paps lined her street and were outside of her home in Toronto and that they even broke into her house and all of these allegations have been denied by 1) the paps and media involved 2) the neighbours who've been witness (to the hay bale rolling down their street!), and most importantly 3) the Toronto police, as they've never been even called out even though some pap broke into M's house and a swarm of those pesky paps hounded her outside (not!).

Besides, where are the pictures if that were true? We have the pics of Diana outside her flat before marriage, of Kate being hounded outside her flat before she married (and the whole street she used to live on, she was followed up and down), pics of Camilla at her home when news of the affair broke, yet not one pic of M outside her home or on her street in Toronto?

Now I think that was the first nail she hit into her coffin, because the press did not take lightly to these lies and accusations of hers.

This lie was then followed with H's dumb as fck statement to leave her alone (even though no one bothered her, except the voices in her head telling her paps are chasing her), coincidentally H's statements had some Americanisms since M entered his life. Funny that.

Anyway, long story short, they pissed off because they are irate inane idiot divas, not because the big bad press and big bad William (& Kate) made their life miserable.

I guess M strives when she's able to speed dial the paps, who cares if the kid falls out of the carrier, amirite? She was just living before that. Girlfriend thought she'd have a pap walk every day as royal and be adored by the masses.

Their fall came about by their own making, nothing else.

Edit: The worst M had to endure was the press' digging into her past and background, but she was not insulted, not belittled, not personally bothered, and initial press was also positive.
I didn't follow their S Africa tour, but press people touted it as a success and a new leaf in the Ssucks story, only then did they slap the press with that lawsuit of theirs in the face and press people were furious. Rightly so.

She baited her own father via her friends and then when he fell into her trap she cried "traitor" and sued the press for publishing the letters she wrote with hopes of being leaked to begin with.

Just compare her handwriting from the letters and cards she wrote her father before (Harry) and the handwriting of that fateful letter she sued the press over. The letter was in her fugly "calligraphy", ie clearly intended for a wider audience, just like all those oh-so-personal-and-thoughtful thank-you cards she sends out.
Manufactured bullshyte meant to paint her in a positive light and be "lasting".

Oh and she sues the press because they "misrepresented her" by only publishing a part of that letter and not the whole letter, yet how dare they publish her letter even though it was written for publication! (yeah, my head hurts, in case anyone wonders). Her dad deliberately showed only parts of her letter, as he wanted to just defend himself and showed what was relevant, yet she was angry about the "leak" while at the same time she was angry the whole thing wasn't leaked. I mean wtf!!!

Sorry for this long rant, but these two (esp M) can really get me going....
 
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Tui

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Personally, I don’t find that strange at all - a bit intense but nothing worse. People I know have done similar for a variety of reasons.
I suppose it’s the reason that’s important. For example, if William and Harry had a sister, her wearing her mother’s favourite perfume is not weird at all and is a lovely gesture.
Harry’s new girlfriend deliberately choosing to wear his dead mothers perfume is creepy AF.
 
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thegirlscout

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The problem with Meghan and Harry is that they are playing checkers, whilst the Firm is playing chess.
And in chess The Queen can move in any direction she wants.
 
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Tui

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Earl of Dumbarton sounds like one of those dodgy limericks from when I was a kid.

Finish the limerick:

There once was an Earl from Dumbarton
Who went of and married a harleton
...................
she spent all his cash
And dressed up like trash
In the house that they now live apart in
 
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Jelly Bean

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Just read a tiny detail on Toronto paper but it is a telling one - apparently MM researched Diana's favourite perfume and wore it around H in the early days. Such a deep trigger for memories.
 
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PennyCrayon

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In this

There is a bit about whether she’d be allowed to continue her patronage of the National Theatre and that she has ‘until Easter’ to prove herself.

I’m wondering if this has come from the National Theatre themselves in that they don’t really want to be associated with such a tarnished brand and have asked for a new patron. I mean after having HM The Queen as patron, you’d want a Royal patronage that respected The Queen, and Meagain loses on both counts.
What I don’t get is why she should be a patron of anything 🤷🏻‍♀️ They don’t live here, are not part of the working monarchy, they’re not part British life at all, so do be a patron is a complete farce.

So they say that they are not making a “charitable foundation” but something different.

They go on to say
“The creation of this non-profit entity will be in addition to their cause driven work that they remain deeply committed to. While The Duke and Duchess are focused on plans to establish a new non-profit organisation, given the specific UK government rules surrounding use of the word ‘Royal’, it has been therefore agreed that their non-profit organisation will not utilise the name ‘Sussex Royal’ or any other iteration of ‘Royal’”

Non profit entity
Non profit organisation
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How is this any different from a foundation? Why are they so bogged down in the semantics?
So, by their reckoning they’re not going to be earning any money at all? Are they just going to swan around doing good cause while the money they rake in from the Duchy pays them to do so? They’re taking the piss
 
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Sparrow8818

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Also, these pictures of Harry arriving...I’m genuinely getting mad. I’m not a UK citizen, but the faces he’s making are genuinely dark and angry. You’ve been catered to, funded by, and cheered on by a nation of people and you have to act like setting foot on UK soil is so unbearable that you can’t control your face to look like anything other than a post-tantrum 3 year old? Sure it was the paparazzi taking the photos and they’re awful and he loathes them and blah blah but that expression was a message, absolutely, and he knew who would see it and what they would know it means. This has been more of a (not-so) mild fascination for me rather than a blood-boiler but this open disrespect for family and country is abhorrent.
 
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happyforest

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Scary times we live in. The planet is burning, entire species of animals are going extinct in droves, oceans full of plastic and inedible fish, weird viruses spreading at warp speed across countries, and our children being invited to talk about suicide and depression.

Yesterday I went to the pediatrician with my girls (aged 16 & 14) for their annual checkup. For the first time ever, they were handed a questionnaire to complete. I wasn't asked if this was ok, they just handed them directly to the girls. Questions such as "Do you feel overwhelmed and tired all the time? Do you struggle to complete normal tasks? How many times in the last year have you felt life would be better if you weren't here? Have you thought about dying or harming yourself?" I was gobsmacked! What the actual fresh fucking hell was that?!

Kids these days don't know if they're coming or going. They have to question their gender identity, their sexuality, etc. before they're even hitting their adolescences. I'm all for tolerance and striving to be less ignorant/more inclusive, but come the fuck on! Kids should be worried about their grades, their families getting along, and here in the US how they will pay for their advanced education. That's about it. And they SHOULD be learning to be tough, to be resilient, to weather the shit storm an average lifetime lobs at one. They shouldn't be brainwashed into thinking they're delicate. No wonder the Snowflake Syndrome is rampant. What will the world look like in one or two decades? Everyone running around asking each other "Are you ok? Did you try to kill yourself today?", as the world continues to burn.

No wonder Harry and Meghan have touched a nerve amongst the "woke" crowd. It's like getting super privileged people in tiaras and sashes to muck about with the common plebs. They're surviving and not thriving, whilst squatting in mega mansions, burning though millions in tax funded security, flying around whilst preaching sustainability, looking wrinkled and poorly clothed, but insisting they know best and by golly still in line of succession, and giving the finger to the very establishment that made them privileged to begin with.

I am fed up with it all. I know this post isn't politically correct, and everyone should be able to be who they want, love who they want, whaaa whaaa whaaaa, be a they/he/she/them, you do you, etc. As a middle aged woman that has had her fair share of crap to wade through, without assistance or support of any kind, it's appalling. Surviving isn't being delicate. Thriving isn't being delicate. Evolution is survival of the fittest. How is being super delicate and worrying about random sadness to the point you can't handle someone being mad the best way? I just don't get it.
 
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pinkrobot

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The phraseology 'when the transition occurs Spring 2020' has clearly been written by a US lawyer/adviser (or indeed by Meghan herself). At this point in time I can't imagine them returning here at the end of the month. To the extent she comes at all, her appearances will be safely behind closed doors away from the public. I keep thinking of how hurt Charles in particular must be - the future king steps in to give you away at your marriage and this is how you repay him.
 
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freda19

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Exactly. Spoke on the last thread about CEO’s of charities who earn ridiculous sums of money. I dread to think what Harry and Meghan will want paying from them.

The thing is they could have done exactly the same sort of work if they had stayed within the royal family. If they had causes close to their hearts, all they had to do was have a chat with the queen and I’m sure they would have got what they wanted. They could have gone off to Africa without the cameras and just helped them, or worked with abused women, the homeless, army vets - anything. But they chose to leave and set up rentaroyal.com. Which tells me it’s not about charity, it’s about money.

Their decision to leave was blamed on the press. But I didn’t see her being chased by paps, topless pictures while on holiday, trying to get pics of Archie. None of that. And yes, the press can be total arses who will print anything but Harry and Meghan weren’t here for the press. They were here to serve their (his) country and his family and the people of the uk. That’s who they’ve turned their backs on. Because the press will be there whichever country they are in.

Sorry, I’m rambling. I just can’t seem to make sense of them at all.
No, your post is good.Her theatre patronage no longer makes sense. Once they bolted it became at best dodgy, but since a blind man can see that she's not coming back here unless for a very fleeting visit then it should be given to someone here.If she had any ethics left she'd tell them thanks for the honour but it's no longer workable for either of us, good luck.
Anything they set up will be about money. Harry is getting a huge reality check. He believed Migraines promise of a fabulous life with people scrabbling to employ them, and he thought she and her teams knew what they were doing. Yet here they are, mired in a huge mess and hated by most brits.
I can't say it often enough, gangan has played a blinder.I think it was always her intention to remove their use of Royal for flogging themselves. But doing that on top of telling him their services were no longer needed representing her on trips and red carpet events AND taking away his military beloved duties would have looked like punishing them. So she waited until they fooked up(as she knew they would) with the JP Morgan repulsive mess and then calmly dropped the "no Royal" bomb on their asses.
I really can't see where they go from here. Two years of pre planning and all her Hollywood nous and they're up Shit Creek without a paddle. I doubt Ginger cares. He's shallow. He has his baby dolly and all the free time he wants.But mardy arse will be tearing out her hair in frustration and anger.Ginger is the only one she can take out her anger on so home life will not be smooth.Good, the sooner she returns him to Charlie as no longer fit for purpose the better. Like an amazon reject.
 
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Rigmor

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Hi, I’m new here. I did not care particularly about theese two before they decided to abdicate but destroy the monarchy while parting. I was happy for Harry when he met her. I had never heard her name before or heard about ”Suits” but I read about Harry’s new girlfriend in some women’s magazine and thought ”Cool, she seems compassionate, smart and is really cute, great!”. I noticed she was described as dificult towards their staff after the wedding and also that she supposedly made Kate cry and had ghosted her father etc but I took that with a grain of salt and it didn’t made me think less of her. Neither did I ever think she was bullied by the media, those things was just normal gossip.
Talk about royal’s being bullied; look at Charles, Camilla or Fergie instead..!

Fast forward to their interview during their tour on the African continent. First I thought ”yes you get more vulnerable and emotional when you’ve just had a baby and maybe they both have a post partum depression”. I didn’t think they were right in saying that things ACTUALLY had been hard for them comparing with the rest of humanity (especially while on tour in poor countries with low life expectansies, high crime and low security, health etc). Neither were I particularly irritated by the interview.

They said they wanted out. Fine I thougt, they might as well since they were complaining so much. If they were to live a ”normal life” and wanted to fund themselves, sure, GO AHEAD. I don’t think ANYONE objected to that, not even Piers Morgan.
Not to leaving and funding themselves and live a private, normal life.

BUT THEY WERE NOT GOING TO DO THAT, and that is exactly what turned me against them.

1. They have moaned extensively about royal life, said that they’ll make sure Archie is NOT going to get a royal upbringing and will hardly know his dad’s side of his family and their decades old traditions. -STILL- they make a statement that they are still royal and could monetize on that term if they wanted, ”legally”, and that Harry remains 6th in line to the throne. WTF!! The blatant disrespect towards the monarchy from the pair of them mixed with bitterly CLINGING ON TO SOMEHOW STILL BEING ROYAL WHILE NOT FULFILLIBG THEIR DUTY AND BREAKING ALL THE RULES- THIS!!! This is what sets me off, and I think most of their critiques.

2. Btw, I don’t think Meghan has manipulated Harry, I think he is just arrogant and disrespectful and has always been. For some reason he was considered ”charming” while dancing naked with prostitutes or dressing up as a nazi at parties so maybe that is the only ”racism” I can see in the picture, that Harry has always acted like a D*** and been called ”charming” for it and now everyone is like ”he’s changed, she’s changed him.” Apperently he is still a D*** and so is she. That is why they like eachother and they are both equally arrogant, narcissistic and disrespectful to everyone else.
 
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Oohthedrama

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I hate using the term “give them enough rope and they’ll hang themselves“ after recent events but there is some sweet justice in seeing this pair of shites,
who had so much public support for “speaking out” fucking themselves over because of their ego and their words.
sometimes you say too much, and having the last word might make the public turn on you just as quickly as they supported you,
this statement is a stark contrast to the vulnerable little Meghan who just wants to be asked if she’s ok 🤣😂🤣

Harry, you twat 🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂
 
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Pink Post It

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If I were HM, I’d be doing some serious research into whether ‘off with her head’ could be achieved in 2020.
 
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Bastille

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That's a minimum of 46 more years of 'Aaaarh! camera flashes taking him right back there'.
I don’t even look at the papers but I have noticed the online ones that do criticise them are the mail and the express. Not sure about the others.



He’ll be traumatised. Will have to be held up by his many security people.
Philip must be fucking despairing at his Grandson right now
Auntie Anne fights off gunman kidnapper is shot at - "I lost my rag at that stage"
Phillip on gunfire during war - "We didn't have counsellors rushing around every time somebody let off a gun, asking 'Are you all right — are you sure you don't have a ghastly problem?' You just got on with it"
Phillip on half his family being murdered- "I would like to go to Russia very much, although the bastards murdered half my family,"

Harry on things he cannot cope with Cameras, Mean words, People not ignoring my wifes blatant Narcissism & Psychopathy, The Queen acting like she's some sort of Matriarch who runs Royalty, Other people's opinions, Paying for shit....
 
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