Holly and Phil, the 'brains society'. My rule of thumb is, if Holly and Pip don't like something, I immediately like it. We know why Holly has a problem though don't we ... she, like Meghan, married a TV producer. Oh I wonder why? As for Philander Phil, he did his best work when he played second-fiddle to a puppet. Some things never change in that respect. Holly probably knows Harry, no doubt Harry has sniffed-around it at some point.yes, and Holly and Phil don’t like ithe is speaking what we are all thinking
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Diane Abbott has less credibility than Pamela Andersen.
It is a CHALLANGE to keep up with this thread and "their truth"!I have noticed that a lot of posters on the Haz and Meg rave threads are suggesting that those who don’t fawn over them have mental health problems or face ‘challenges’ in life.
Absolutely no self awareness.
Labour MPs are apparently demanding an investigation into the racism claims and frankly I think to shut everyone up, that should be done in parallel with the internal investigation into the bullying claims by the employees. If the allegations are proven to be untrue and as a result a lot of Megsy and Hazno's lies are revealed to be outright seidtion fabrications, then the MPs will be aligned in in wanting to take action against those who made these false allegations. These sort of fabricated allegations - especially when used to prop up your own PR and profile - diminish and devalue the cases where there is real racism/bigotry/misogyny/MH issues/bullying/abuse. The victims of genuine discrimination etc usually aren't millionaires with endless resources and options, but having these two moochers whine about being victims.... well it mutes the real victims who live with the consequences
Ok I was googling what the flower girl dresses looked like after tight gate and found this. So there was a big debate whether the girls should wear tights on a hot day but not that the poor boys were dressed head to toe in heavy black suits ! Poor kids 
I remember now thinking it was a strange choice for wee boys !
I remember now thinking it was a strange choice for wee boys !Attachments
Irony overload
I love to read what someone in this same situation thinks also. I make statements about how I would feel and think in/of these situations but because I am not in this situation and never will be its reassuring to see this sort of response.
she annoys me. She plays the dumb blonde. She might be a dumb blonde, of course, but man does she ham it up
She couldn't turn a corner without encountering one of her past porkies
Sorry if this has been commented before but this entire interview was clearly engineered and is completely an act. The fact people are believing this story as 'fact' and not just what it is- a soap opera- is really disgusting. I mean come on this is a woman who has never been real about her intentions from day 1 and has lived this entire experience acting as if she was Diana. I don't believe there is a genuine bone in her body and people supporting her story as if she even deserves it is truly surprising to me. It is obvious this is a 'he said, she said' situation and no claims can be corroborated and this plays into their hands perfectly as they need the income.
Meghan, a middle aged woman describing herself as 'naive' so she can victimise herself is truly telling. For all her political 'activism' and her perceived 'intelligence', you would think before getting into the royal family she would think long and hard about if this is the life she wanted anf if it aligned with her own principles. But it's clear she just wanted to marry him for fame and wealth and then she has the cheek to whine and call 'racism'.
People would do well remembering these are simply allegations and not the truth. This woman is as disingenuous as they come and people shouldn't be so easily fooled by this entitled shrew. The fact she got on telly moaning about her 'struggles' when people are going through some of the worst things really shows her true colours. I am not saying royal life isn't an adjustment and comes with it's own set of challenges but the fact the pair of them are not even holding themselves accountable for their nasty behaviour just tells me all I need to know.
Looking at the other side, if anyone is to blame it is Harry. All she has claimed in this interview could have been mitigated by Harry and so it really shows how unhealthy their relationship is. Instead they choose to smear the whole family and create even more drama.
The whole 'prince' archie denial thing makes no sense to me... if you are trying to escape royal life why do you care if he is a prince or not. She clearly has a power control issue. What a crazy woman.
Meghan, a middle aged woman describing herself as 'naive' so she can victimise herself is truly telling. For all her political 'activism' and her perceived 'intelligence', you would think before getting into the royal family she would think long and hard about if this is the life she wanted anf if it aligned with her own principles. But it's clear she just wanted to marry him for fame and wealth and then she has the cheek to whine and call 'racism'.
People would do well remembering these are simply allegations and not the truth. This woman is as disingenuous as they come and people shouldn't be so easily fooled by this entitled shrew. The fact she got on telly moaning about her 'struggles' when people are going through some of the worst things really shows her true colours. I am not saying royal life isn't an adjustment and comes with it's own set of challenges but the fact the pair of them are not even holding themselves accountable for their nasty behaviour just tells me all I need to know.
Looking at the other side, if anyone is to blame it is Harry. All she has claimed in this interview could have been mitigated by Harry and so it really shows how unhealthy their relationship is. Instead they choose to smear the whole family and create even more drama.
The whole 'prince' archie denial thing makes no sense to me... if you are trying to escape royal life why do you care if he is a prince or not. She clearly has a power control issue. What a crazy woman.
I was wondering (insprired by the maiden comment on this thread) if we could maybe keep a fact check of the lies/contradictions/claims they have made?
I've made a start:
Fact check: Is Archie entitled to a title?
Contradiction. He can be the Earl of Dumbarton but not a prince at the minute. He will be a prince when Charles ascends to the throne, as a grandchild of the monarch. The couple claim he were denied this.
Fact check: When did the conversation about the baby’s skin colour happen?
Contradiction. Meghan says she was relayed conversations in pregnancy, Harry comes on and says comments were made when they were dating.
Fact check: Did Samantha Markle change her name to Markle when Meghan started dating Harry?
No – Samantha has posted evidence she has always used Markle
Fact check: Did they RF remove protection?
Yes, but because H+M left their job. Archie will get protection when Charles ascends to the throne and he becomes a prince. They are not entitled to tax payer funded protection.
Fact check: Why did no one give Meghan help?
Not sure. Either Harry is the shittest husband in the world for leaving his suicidal wife flailing, or something else has happened. Why did her Obstetrician also not help? Her maternity apts would have flagged MH concerns. Who declined her help from within the palace? Is her mother not a mental health counsellor? Does her husband and brother not run a mental health charity? (Heads Together)
Fact check: Did the palace purposefully not help Meghan or did they not know about it?
Contradiction. Meghan says they refused because of the optics, Harry says he didn’t tell anyone because he was ashamed.
Fact check: Did Meghan know about the RF before meeting H?
Yes. There is a picture of her outside of Buckingham Palace. She had a Diana coffee table book. She fibbed about not Googling him.
Fact check: Who made who cry?
Contradiction: M says K made her cry. K was 2.5 weeks postpartum at the time (1 week before wedding). Journalist has doubled down on her story, insisting her sources are accurate.
Fact check: When were they actually married?
Contradiction. Official wedding seen by millions. M claims they were married in the ‘back yard’ three days before by the Archbishop of Canterbury ‘just the three of us’. This is problematic because in UK law you must be married in front of witnesses. The AoC can not marry people in unofficial locations either (they must be licenced). Also, two ceremonies would be bigamy
Fact check: Did the palace refuse to stick up for Meghan in regards to false stories?
Contradiction. Meghan says she was unprotected. Facts are that the palace intervened 8 times publicly to state that a story was false. A journalist has gone on the record too to say that she did not publish stories (numerous times) as the palace corrected her on her fact checking mission. Could it have been that Meghan doesn't know about the stories that didn't make it to press?
Fact check: Meghan states she hasnt seen Samantha in 19 years
No. There is a picture of them together in 2009.
I've made a start:
Fact check: Is Archie entitled to a title?
Contradiction. He can be the Earl of Dumbarton but not a prince at the minute. He will be a prince when Charles ascends to the throne, as a grandchild of the monarch. The couple claim he were denied this.
Fact check: When did the conversation about the baby’s skin colour happen?
Contradiction. Meghan says she was relayed conversations in pregnancy, Harry comes on and says comments were made when they were dating.
Fact check: Did Samantha Markle change her name to Markle when Meghan started dating Harry?
No – Samantha has posted evidence she has always used Markle
Fact check: Did they RF remove protection?
Yes, but because H+M left their job. Archie will get protection when Charles ascends to the throne and he becomes a prince. They are not entitled to tax payer funded protection.
Fact check: Why did no one give Meghan help?
Not sure. Either Harry is the shittest husband in the world for leaving his suicidal wife flailing, or something else has happened. Why did her Obstetrician also not help? Her maternity apts would have flagged MH concerns. Who declined her help from within the palace? Is her mother not a mental health counsellor? Does her husband and brother not run a mental health charity? (Heads Together)
Fact check: Did the palace purposefully not help Meghan or did they not know about it?
Contradiction. Meghan says they refused because of the optics, Harry says he didn’t tell anyone because he was ashamed.
Fact check: Did Meghan know about the RF before meeting H?
Yes. There is a picture of her outside of Buckingham Palace. She had a Diana coffee table book. She fibbed about not Googling him.
Fact check: Who made who cry?
Contradiction: M says K made her cry. K was 2.5 weeks postpartum at the time (1 week before wedding). Journalist has doubled down on her story, insisting her sources are accurate.
Fact check: When were they actually married?
Contradiction. Official wedding seen by millions. M claims they were married in the ‘back yard’ three days before by the Archbishop of Canterbury ‘just the three of us’. This is problematic because in UK law you must be married in front of witnesses. The AoC can not marry people in unofficial locations either (they must be licenced). Also, two ceremonies would be bigamy
Fact check: Did the palace refuse to stick up for Meghan in regards to false stories?
Contradiction. Meghan says she was unprotected. Facts are that the palace intervened 8 times publicly to state that a story was false. A journalist has gone on the record too to say that she did not publish stories (numerous times) as the palace corrected her on her fact checking mission. Could it have been that Meghan doesn't know about the stories that didn't make it to press?
Fact check: Meghan states she hasnt seen Samantha in 19 years
No. There is a picture of them together in 2009.
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I am absolutely sure this was exactly what Harry and Meghan wanted. They coveted the Commonwealth job. There to rescue us Australasians and other colonised nations ( I’m a Kiwi) from the icy clutches of the BRF. I don’t want rescuing and I don’t want a republic thank you. It’s bad enough having a woke, leftist PM like Jacinda Ardern.
Or sniffed with it...
My online expectant mum’s group (thanks covid) had a thread where all the mothers who would be having children with mixed parentage were guessing what the kids would look like. Harry did say he was “shocked” by the comments tho so I think this was more than “ohh do you think he’ll keep the red hair” and not just in good fun as he was offended enough to tell Meghan.
Of course I have no idea how others will react but as an Aussie I just feel (and I think a lot of others will also) was what she had to put up with THAT BAD that she had to drag Harry away from his family, the kids wont see their cousins now like they would have had they stayed in UK, I think she has shown just how dozy she is, she couldn't get an UBER to the palace, where the hell did she think she was, she did no research herself about the family, Harry didnt appear to be helping her at all, it goes on and on. I think the majority of Aussies would think just fecking suck it up girl and get on with it, don't play the victim, do the job you would have been getting paid to do and dont paint women in such a pathetic weak light.And on that note, I fear this is going to turn into a much bigger scandal than we think. It will affect our relations with the Commonwealth countries, because those 2 idiots have basically portrayed the RF as a whole bunch of uncaring, cruel racists. Just awful. I really think the Palace should make a statement. A firm one as well. The whole world is talking about the UK currently, and I'm saddened to see that there's much criticism of the RF at the moment. The US in particular is mainly siding with and supporting Haz and Smeg and bashing the RF.
Yes and no.
Meghan really wants to be the head of the commonwealth and if you saw in the interview
Meghan had commonwealth flowers on her veil for her wedding
Harry says oh Meghan is the best thing ever that’s happened to the commonwealth.
Meghan mentioned she wanted to move to a commonwealth country and continue to her work from there.
They want countries to leave the commonwealth and unravel 70 years of what the queens done for the commonwealth just because Meghan didn’t get her way.
I Think the queen will release a statement , she wouldn’t want countries leaving the commonwealth after listening to perpetuated falsehoods about them.
She will want to protect what she worked 70 years to achieve.
Meghan really wants to be the head of the commonwealth and if you saw in the interview
Meghan had commonwealth flowers on her veil for her wedding
Harry says oh Meghan is the best thing ever that’s happened to the commonwealth.
Meghan mentioned she wanted to move to a commonwealth country and continue to her work from there.
They want countries to leave the commonwealth and unravel 70 years of what the queens done for the commonwealth just because Meghan didn’t get her way.
I Think the queen will release a statement , she wouldn’t want countries leaving the commonwealth after listening to perpetuated falsehoods about them.
She will want to protect what she worked 70 years to achieve.
You could add it all to the wiki if it makes life easier? Pink button at top
Your last Fact check is so easy to remedy - the AoC just has to come forward and tell the frigging truth! The Queen is head of the church - she can order him to.
Absolutely brilliant. Hope the Harkles get to see it.
Warning: Aussie Humour.
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