Usually just lurk here, I found Grace via Taz's food challenge videos in lockdown. I wouldnt have sort her out otherwise as her vibe has always been [under the surface] a bit too happy clappy church, Grace getting engaged however has brought me out into the light.
So many ask why marriage and not just a boyfriend to fool around with and grow up about with? Her church is evidently very strict in many areas, modesty, chastity etc. Basically heavy in areas where women are controlled and that isn't common place in most of the western world in the 21st century (thankfully)
All of the booth children will have been dating with the sole intention of marrying. Almost all unions are a sort of semi modern match making to find a suitable spouse with someone who is in their church or another church and willing to join theirs. No hinge etc. What would be the point, unlikely to meet someone wanting to marry within a year who was also a committed Christian.
People ask why she didnt get her own flat, i though it was glaringly obvious Grace was never going to live outside her family unit until marriage. Regarding her employment the women's careers are ones which will fit around supporting their husband and raising children. No surgeons or lawyers amongst the women in that congregation. She has never had any interest in getting her own place and having a big career, it is just not in the life plan for those women. If she wants it great, but it is unlikely the alternative was ever even discussed as an option.
It is not as uncommon as many here think, if your family is all in then you risk being shunned by your entire support system if you leave. People out of the community are pitied, there are no broken homes or lonely singles in the church, but that doesn't mean they are all happy homes.
Also regarding being accepting of LGBTQA+ there is a lot of love the sinner hate the sin. Anyone can go pray, worship and see for themselves wjay it could be like to be in the chosen community, but you would soon get the message. They also don't like members to be unmarried past early twenties, men can get a pass for a while longer of they are sorting out a career in order to be a good provider etc. They like people to be settled early, and get cracking on raising families.
Seems mad to see it all play out on YouTube Grace really does seem like a twenty five year old child in so many aspects. My personal thoughts are that she will marry first, then talk about the wedding in retrospect [out of excitement] as she clearly yearns to be a wife now that her siblings are married. I predict himself will never be shown, she might start working at church, maybe within youth more or child care - all within the church where further study and qualifications won't be necessary. If she likes the reality of being a wife, indeed being a traditional Christian wife only time will tell.
With reference to her irritating radio silence on socials and viewers(quite rightly) complaining about it, well her hardcore fans defend her so fiercely simply because she seems like a child (a six foot tall child!) and there is an instinctive desire to protect children from any meanness. All the cuddly toy arrangements and child like dungaree outfits give her the illusion of being a sheltered teenager, not a woman in her mid twenties who dipped her toes in catwalk modelling even travelling overseas for it, now has a baking degree and a healthy savings pot to her name. I desperately hope the infantile persona is all an act for tiktok and she isn't as naive as she presents. Thinking about it any other way is uncomfortable.
Now, back to her terrible habit of nibbling overpriced pastries.
So many ask why marriage and not just a boyfriend to fool around with and grow up about with? Her church is evidently very strict in many areas, modesty, chastity etc. Basically heavy in areas where women are controlled and that isn't common place in most of the western world in the 21st century (thankfully)
All of the booth children will have been dating with the sole intention of marrying. Almost all unions are a sort of semi modern match making to find a suitable spouse with someone who is in their church or another church and willing to join theirs. No hinge etc. What would be the point, unlikely to meet someone wanting to marry within a year who was also a committed Christian.
People ask why she didnt get her own flat, i though it was glaringly obvious Grace was never going to live outside her family unit until marriage. Regarding her employment the women's careers are ones which will fit around supporting their husband and raising children. No surgeons or lawyers amongst the women in that congregation. She has never had any interest in getting her own place and having a big career, it is just not in the life plan for those women. If she wants it great, but it is unlikely the alternative was ever even discussed as an option.
A girl at my school went to one of these churches, she married as soon as she turned 18 to a man (who actually supervised youth in the church) he was in his very early thirties, meaning she completed the last year of a school as a married woman. It was odd, none of this sending a letter home to your parents about xyz, instead a letter was sent home to her husband. She only wore a gold band at school, no engagement ring and the engagement was only a couple of months. Sometimes she was called Mrs.X on forms etc. and got all flustered.
She stated she had counselling within the church to prepare her for marriage (boot camp) what to expect, what would be expected of her, how to resolve arguments (obey) what his goals were for their life and how to support him, what would happen if she couldn’t carry a child, there was a part where each had to confess any sexual experiences (sins) they had prior to getting engaged, she had none he had...some. Not that odd as he was in his thirties, what was odd was how they met and how her parents (and the teachers) all seemed positively elated with this blessed match - all done before she got too old and too opinionated to be considered a good choice of a supportive wife.![Sick :sick: :sick:](data:image/gif;base64,R0lGODlhAQABAIAAAAAAAP///yH5BAEAAAAALAAAAAABAAEAAAIBRAA7)
If anyone voiced concerns that this was all a bit weird, they were labelled jealous. The couple had known each other for a few years by this stage, he was the youth leader after all, no one was rushing into anything! It was the right time for him to be thinking of marrying, no mention of whether it was the right time for her but that's extreme religion for you.
Obviously she left straight after exams to be a traditional wife. No intention of ever working outside the home. Ever. If he died she would mourn for a suitable period and then another match would be found (another widow) all this was discussed. Interestingly if she died he would not have to restrict himself to a widow.
All this was talked about at length during school breaktimes, over glasses of milk and cookies
Seems like another world remembering it all now.
Other similarities she also didn't wear make up, kept her hair long, never coloured it, wore lots of dungarees and frilly blouses, long fluffy cardis with cats on. Overall extremely modest (kids TV presenter) dress much like Grace. Only jewellery was the ring and a cross. No Halloween, no films or books with magic or witchcraft allowed and social media was all monitored by her parents. She had never seen an 18 rated film and her parents kept an eye on what books she read (no 50 shades of grey for instance) also no love island.
She did really well in her exams and could have gone far if she had wanted to. No idea what she does now as she disappeared into her wife life while all went to uni. she became a sort of celebrity for that last year of school. I often wonder if she enjoyed this more than the marriage.
She stated she had counselling within the church to prepare her for marriage (boot camp) what to expect, what would be expected of her, how to resolve arguments (obey) what his goals were for their life and how to support him, what would happen if she couldn’t carry a child, there was a part where each had to confess any sexual experiences (sins) they had prior to getting engaged, she had none he had...some. Not that odd as he was in his thirties, what was odd was how they met and how her parents (and the teachers) all seemed positively elated with this blessed match - all done before she got too old and too opinionated to be considered a good choice of a supportive wife.
If anyone voiced concerns that this was all a bit weird, they were labelled jealous. The couple had known each other for a few years by this stage, he was the youth leader after all, no one was rushing into anything! It was the right time for him to be thinking of marrying, no mention of whether it was the right time for her but that's extreme religion for you.
Obviously she left straight after exams to be a traditional wife. No intention of ever working outside the home. Ever. If he died she would mourn for a suitable period and then another match would be found (another widow) all this was discussed. Interestingly if she died he would not have to restrict himself to a widow.
All this was talked about at length during school breaktimes, over glasses of milk and cookies
![Upside-down face :upside_down: 🙃](https://cdn.jsdelivr.net/gh/joypixels/emoji-assets@5.0/png/64/1f643.png)
Other similarities she also didn't wear make up, kept her hair long, never coloured it, wore lots of dungarees and frilly blouses, long fluffy cardis with cats on. Overall extremely modest (kids TV presenter) dress much like Grace. Only jewellery was the ring and a cross. No Halloween, no films or books with magic or witchcraft allowed and social media was all monitored by her parents. She had never seen an 18 rated film and her parents kept an eye on what books she read (no 50 shades of grey for instance) also no love island.
She did really well in her exams and could have gone far if she had wanted to. No idea what she does now as she disappeared into her wife life while all went to uni. she became a sort of celebrity for that last year of school. I often wonder if she enjoyed this more than the marriage.
Also regarding being accepting of LGBTQA+ there is a lot of love the sinner hate the sin. Anyone can go pray, worship and see for themselves wjay it could be like to be in the chosen community, but you would soon get the message. They also don't like members to be unmarried past early twenties, men can get a pass for a while longer of they are sorting out a career in order to be a good provider etc. They like people to be settled early, and get cracking on raising families.
Seems mad to see it all play out on YouTube Grace really does seem like a twenty five year old child in so many aspects. My personal thoughts are that she will marry first, then talk about the wedding in retrospect [out of excitement] as she clearly yearns to be a wife now that her siblings are married. I predict himself will never be shown, she might start working at church, maybe within youth more or child care - all within the church where further study and qualifications won't be necessary. If she likes the reality of being a wife, indeed being a traditional Christian wife only time will tell.
With reference to her irritating radio silence on socials and viewers(quite rightly) complaining about it, well her hardcore fans defend her so fiercely simply because she seems like a child (a six foot tall child!) and there is an instinctive desire to protect children from any meanness. All the cuddly toy arrangements and child like dungaree outfits give her the illusion of being a sheltered teenager, not a woman in her mid twenties who dipped her toes in catwalk modelling even travelling overseas for it, now has a baking degree and a healthy savings pot to her name. I desperately hope the infantile persona is all an act for tiktok and she isn't as naive as she presents. Thinking about it any other way is uncomfortable.
Now, back to her terrible habit of nibbling overpriced pastries.