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Heā€™s being really threatening. You WILL do as I say. Very (boke) Jeffrey Marsh of him. He sounds like an incel cos thatā€™s essentially what he is. An incel with crap make up on.
 
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I know I should probably feel some second-hand embarrassment on behalf of Anum Qaisar, but instead Iā€™m wondering a) how was someone so inept allowed to speak publicly on issues she has no intellectual capacity to understand, and b) when she later reflected on this exchange, did she feel that sheā€™d done an excellent job under the circumstances but was bullied by a nasty terf, or does she have an element of awareness of how embarrassingly out of her depth she was?
Sheā€™s basically yet another one of the SNP production line who are student politicians. She tried to stand in my area for the Holyrood elections in 2021 and didnā€™t get selected, then managed to get the Westminster gig because Neil Gray stood down.
 
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I see a man telling women what to do šŸ™„ Quelle surprise!


wtf is a mascara wand anyway... I lose track of all the words these days. Leave lesbians alone!
OK, I'm calling it. Me and my mates talk about wand mascaras all the time, we rarely discuss anything else. Maybelline this, Benefit that, mascara mascara mascara. My eyelashes are the most important element of my femininity, ergo you must be an evil Terf.
 
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Itā€™s tiktok language - lots of words get flagged and taken down so mascara wand is some sort of tiktok code for penis
 
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LMAO the state of this. Heā€™s annoyed because lesbians arenā€™t into penis? Itā€™s a bleeping sexuality, and men and their penis have no place in it. We arenā€™t attracted to what he sees himself as, weā€™re attracted to reality. I feel so sad for young girls figuring out their sexuality and still being told by shits like this that because they see themselves as women means we have to.

This is the kind of tit I used to hear from guys in night club when I told them I was gay so not interested in them (ā€œoh, but you havenā€™t tried my penisā€). He can believe whatever he wants to believe about himself, but he shouldnā€™t expect everyone else to also believe it.

He can keep his mascara wand tucked in his pants, thank you very much.
 
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Itā€™s tiktok language - lots of words get flagged and taken down so mascara wand is some sort of tiktok code for penis
Ohhh is that what all that TikTok crap means? Iā€™m too old for this obviously.
 
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Itā€™s tiktok language - lots of words get flagged and taken down so mascara wand is some sort of tiktok code for penis
I am too old to understand all this, why would a transgender woman who is a lesbian (a man) be talking about a
penis?

Sorry for crap formatting, the Samsung glitch still prevails.
 
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I am too old to understand all this, why would a transgender woman who is a lesbian (a man) be talking about a
penis?

Sorry for crap formatting, the Samsung glitch still prevails.
Heā€™s saying that as a ā€œlesbianā€ it hurts his feelings and makes him šŸ˜­ when lesbians say theyā€™re not interested in him or his penis or his maleness
 
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I am too old to understand all this, why would a transgender woman who is a lesbian (a man) be talking about a
penis?

Sorry for crap formatting, the Samsung glitch still prevails.
Cos they are men who want to get their by sexy kicks by playing at being women, and then say they are a lesbians cos they want to shag women, then get all shouty and hurty cos real-life, proper lesbians don't want to shag them and their girldick. It's all so ridiculous that it's laughable šŸ¤Ŗ
All these lonely incel TIM's should leave women alone and just shag each other, that would solve the problem šŸ¤“
 
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We laugh at deluded TiM's, who call themselves "lesbians" in the vain hope that actual women will have sex with them, but behind this ideology are real people, who have been irreparably damaged by their decisions to have life-altering surgeries.

My son has a friend who is a trans man. (I'm going to use male pronouns as I only know this person as a man) He's had his top surgery, he makes a living in a very male-oriented profession (which is open to women too) he met my son through a mutual friend around a year ago. I don't mean to use antiquated gender stereotypes, but this guy was so obviously socialised as a woman, he loves a gossip, he's happy to chat on the phone for hours, I've tried really hard to relate to him as a man, but my instincts just tell me otherwise. I really like this guy, he's very polite, he's great fun, and he just seems to be a lovely person. I also have a very strong feeling that he is a little bit in love with my son.
It really upsets me that this poor kid has been indoctrinated to the extent that a double masectomy has been presented as life-affirming surgery. Who is going to have a relationship with this person? Gay women don't want women who have removed their healthy breasts. Gay men don't like vaginas. Straight women tend to prefer men with a penis. And straight men like women who don't think of themselves as men.
In a different universe, my son may well have been bringing home a young woman, one who wasn't particularly "girly", one who succeeded in pursuing a career in a male-dominated environment, one who, despite some MH issues, had grown to love her body, and to appreciate the differences between the sexes, and one who could have a normal, healthy relationship with whomever she chose.

I sincerely hope that this young man finds happiness, and that his decision brings him peace. But somehow, I doubt it. And that makes me very sad indeed.
 
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As part of my masters weā€™re doing a module on leadership and diversity. The lecturer today kept talking about celebrating diversity and included race, disability in thisā€¦ all okay. She then started talking about gender rights.. thatā€™s where I was lost. Thinking I may focus on sex based rights in my assignmentā€¦
 
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As part of my masters weā€™re doing a module on leadership and diversity. The lecturer today kept talking about celebrating diversity and included race, disability in thisā€¦ all okay. She then started talking about gender rights.. thatā€™s where I was lost. Thinking I may focus on sex based rights in my assignmentā€¦
Iā€™m sure a student in Edinburgh did this at uni a few years ago and got booted out for transphobia. Or she questioned the ideology in class and made ā€˜cisā€™ people feel ā€˜unsafeā€™ or some garbage šŸ™„I canā€™t remember her name but I believe she took them to court. Iā€™ll see if I can find the article.
 
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This got to be the saddest video I've come across.
You could see this person is not truly happy with the fact the have no sensational down below, or no sex drive due to taking hormones.
They even compare it to cis women, saying it's the same, because women also don't have sex drives. In what world do women no desire sex? We get horny just like men. And climax just like men (unless we have some sort of medical issue).
I feel slightly offended. As this trans woman wants to lie to herself to make herself feel better and feel like real women. We aren't the same and I don't get why this is so hard to accept. Nothing wrong with admitting trans women and real women are different. Her not having any sensation due to having trans treatments is not the same as a woman not having a sex drive due to a medical reason.

Spreading wrong information like this on the Internet is so dangerous.
 
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The one thing about the Isla Bryson case here in Scotland, is that its blown the "Trans Women Are Women" catchphrase right out of the water.

Cos if i go mental and try to choke someone (probably my mother - im gonna start a thread for stressed out daughters), I'm going straight to a female jail cos I'm female.

If a transgender woman tries to choke someone, they're having a risk assessment carried out to see which jail they should end up in. And I've seen stats that say it's 50/50, half in a mens prison and half in a female prison.

And the Scottish prison service aren't putting you in a men's prison if you're a woman!!!

So Trans Women defo ain't Women!!!
 
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I feel slightly offended. As this trans woman wants to lie to herself to make herself feel better and feel like real women. We aren't the same and I don't get why this is so hard to accept. Nothing wrong with admitting trans women and real women are different. Her not having any sensation due to having trans treatments is not the same as a woman not having a sex drive due to a medical reason.

Spreading wrong information like this on the Internet is so dangerous.
I find that this is how trans women reassure each other whenever their experiences of being a woman don't live up to their fantasies expectations.

"I went out today and was clocked straight away!" "Don't worry, cis women get clocked too. It happens."
"My hips aren't wide enough." "Lots of cis women have narrow hips. Narrower than a cis man's. Yours will be wider than some women's."

And so on. :rolleyes:

Within some groups, it's almost like a cult - believe what we say, without questioning it or listening to anyone from the outside (especially transphobic relatives).
 
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I find that this is how trans women reassure each other whenever their experiences of being a woman don't live up to their fantasies expectations.

"I went out today and was clocked straight away!" "Don't worry, cis women get clocked too. It happens."
"My hips aren't wide enough." "Lots of cis women have narrow hips. Narrower than a cis man's. Yours will be wider than some women's."

And so on. :rolleyes:

Within some groups, it's almost like a cult - believe what we say, without questioning it or listening to anyone from the outside (especially transphobic relatives).
My mum has tiny wee narrow hips but managed to deliver 2 daughters without has much as a stitch. They love to reassure themselves donā€™t they?
 
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One of the things Iā€™m making a conscious effort to do whenever Iā€™m discussing this issue with someone, especially someone that I suspect is on the BE KIND, TWAW bandwagon is to keep referring to these men as Trans-identified Men. I WILL NOT call them trans women. They are, in NO way, women. They are men. I wonā€™t lie about it. I wonā€™t ignore what is staring me in the face. I am sure that will upset some people, Iā€™m sure if I was on TikTok, Iā€™d have some creepy TIM making a video about how violent I am being to him, but itā€™s not okay. I actually canā€™t believe there isnā€™t more outcry about how people are being expected to lie, to affirm someone elseā€™s delusion. Total strangers (TIM) are expecting to dictate to everyone they meet that what they are seeing, hearing, sensing is wrong and hurtful and violent. What on earth are we coming to?
 
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