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BDY_97

It’s just my opinion, and that won’t change. I’m just struggling to understand the whole narrative a lot of city fans have that everyone is out to get them, when the reality is most people don’t even care that they exist This is a legal issue, not some fans on twitter throwing accusations around and if city are guilty then they should be punished accordingly, I think that’s fair?
 
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Eli_99

Hi Pep

Have you figured out why your team are shit this season?
 
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Bonnybob

no i agree if they have commited offences dont get me wrong punish them but i hope the premier league are holding all clubs to the same standard., i just dont like the blinkers.

the issue with a lot of city fans is the belief that the 'cartel clubs' are out to get them. I dont think many see that when they were took over in 2008 that suddenly ffp was fetched in which originally was to stop debt and clubs who were mentioned as debt were untied, barcelona and real and all of a sudden it was changed...... the issue many have with thinking people are out to get them is that i think when initially the financial rules were brought in city were given 12 months to break even which anyone who runs a business knew they were going to fail and when they handed their accounts in rules were retrospecitvily changed. I think newcaslte fans will start feeling simular as how all of a sudden the rules change when they get took over.


The issue i have do people really believe that city for 9 years of accounts managed to hide things from the premier league, HMRC, Delottie, and their own accountants BDO (who are one of the biggest accountancy firms in world).

From reading more into it it seems to stem from a Roberto M payment and something to do with player image rights through 3rd party companies (which are legal under premier league rules).


Anyway it wont be over for year someone just said on sky that a baseball team too 16 years for it all to be cleared up and they were charged with less.
 
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1x2x3x4x

You’ve not got a leg to stand on. Your club was done the minute it tried to claim it brought in more money last season than Madrid or United can’t fill the stadium week to week but higher revenue streams than massive institutions… suuuuureeeee
 
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Bonnybob

maybe you should actually research into that and what constitues revenue income. The premier league clubs always earn more than real madrid through tv money for one. Sponsors dont care about fans and its never been based off how many fans a club has. The history nonsence doesnt releate to business right now no one care what teams won 10 years ago 30 years ago. It all about brands here and now..

When arguements like that come up i chuckle because Delottie and forbes are the ones who make those lists and you think they risk their reputations on the back of claims like that
 

wordzalad

I’m sure a lot of clubs toe the line but this is loads and loads of violations…it looks pretty bad

If like you say they haven’t done it, then they won’t be punished but I think if it’s been being investigated for four years I think it’s likely something has gone on …

I don’t think it really matters if the PL chair People supports Man Utd and Liverpool as the investigations ongoing since before they got in… also they look mid 50s back then everyone supported one of them.

I don’t think British media are doing this to benefit Liverpool. The main media newspaper in the UK is the Sun and everyone in Liverpool (rightly so) despises them so I’m pretty sure Liverpool fans would tell them where to stick their help.

I truly do feel bad for the players and the fans but I think unfortunately your club has put its trust in people who have fiddled the figures.
 
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Violetroselily

Just a minor point, but audit firms really are far from infallible. Just look at KPMG and the collapse of Carillion. Big four accountancy firms, GT, RSM etc get fined constantly for their failings.
 
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Popupchick

let be honest they was asking to be looked at when they said there revenue was higher than Barcelona, real Madrid, BM, Liverpool and United.
 
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1x2x3x4x

There’s nothing anyone can say that will change your mind on this but I’m telling you now there is literally no way Manchester City made more money than any other club last season. Investigations have shown some of City’s sponsors such as one betting company was actually fake and was in fact a PR company which could be traced back to Abu Dhabi.
 
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BDY_97

Popupchick said:
let be honest they was asking to be looked at when they said there revenue was higher than Barcelona, real Madrid, BM, Liverpool and United.
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I’m not going to pretend I know what i’m talking about because I don't, none of us on this thread do, but this alone should ring alarm bells
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@wordzalad you lot again?! ffs, it’s genuinely a loop of wolves, brighton & chelsea every other week for us i’m TIRED

 
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wordzalad

Swear we’ve played each other about six times already .
 
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Bonnybob

The same betting company sponsor issues that over half the premier League are dealing with Fulham, Liverpool plenty more as well but let's isolate city there..... I prefer to trust companies such as Deloitte and Forbes over people online personally
 
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BDY_97

Bonnybob said:
The same betting company sponsor issues that over half the premier League are dealing with Fulham, Liverpool plenty more as well but let's isolate city there..... I prefer to trust companies such as Deloitte and Forbes over people online personally
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The difference is Fulham, Liverpool etc haven’t apparently broken multiple rules/laws. If they had they would be investigated too, for all we know they could be and it just hasn’t been made public yet. I promise you there is not some agenda against your club
 
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Bonnybob

Answer one question why was your hacking case not looked at or your Stanley park development that hasn't happened yet? , why is united under investigation by HMRC why's that not mentioned.
 
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olivia321

How come no one’s looking into Salah and that peri peri Andy Carroll Nunez robbing a wage of Liverpool every week

Why was no one arsed when United were paying a rapist for 18 months

Just say you hate City and want them out the league instead of dragging it on to every page of thread.
 
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BDY_97

Bonnybob said:
Answer one question why was your hacking case not looked at or your Stanley park development that hasn't happened yet? , why is united under investigation by HMRC why's that not mentioned.
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How am I supposed to know that lol? I don’t work in that field and I know absolutely nothing about how these things are investigated/run nor have I claimed to, you would have to ask those in charge We can only discuss information that has been made available to us, if those things you mentioned were brought to the attention of the public then obviously people would be talking about it. People on this thread are sharing opinions so if you don’t like it you know what to do, classic deflection.
 
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pixxyy

same reason city are still paying theres tbf
 
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