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Yup brain isn’t working at usual capacity in the Covid, watch something fluffy like schists creek or the Good place. I think I rewatched Futurama as well. It sucks but it will pass. Please don’t attempt any slow cooker recipes involving apples.
 
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Just wanted to send lots of love to @Jay-cloth Cow - that is a whole load of *stuff* to be going through. I think the PALS thing is maybe a good idea (though possibly because I am considering similar myself) but get the mixed emotions about it. Sorry, feels like me-railing, but I'm thinking of talking to my cancer hospital about my recent experience there after 10 years of just amazing treatment something happened that really upset me and I guess I feel like it's about reflexive practice and all that. Though right now, you shouldn't feel like you have to think about it at all and just concentrate on getting through this bit. Also HTRIA is, as always, very wise.

Hello to everyone else. I've been BUSY (also, head stuff has been bad) but have missed you trolls and your chat a lot.
Aah it’s nice to have you back @Flumps ❤

I have tested + today after having a rollercoaster temp for a couple of days. How long does the bodypain and exhaustion last? In the space of a week I have gone from being able to run 5k to struggling with stairs. I am quite scared.
Oh no hope you feel better soon ❤
 
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Sadly Ms V. Squiggle can't remember her date of birth, so isn't eligible to be a....oh, hang on, they're not wild sticklers for accuracy on that, are they?? ;) Sheep are amazing in their ability to (a) sort themselves out into their own flocks when they're all mixed together and (b) recognising their shepherds. Most of the flocks on our hill will ignore humans who they don't recognise and move away if the human goes towards them, but come towards the one(s) they do. Apart from my lot, who are far too friendly and therefore end up getting brought back in with other flocks because April's logic goes something like 'There is a human collecting sheep. When my human comes up to see me she has food. Therefore that human must have food because his sheep are going to him. I am going to get the food,' and then she takes about half the rest with her. I'm very used to getting a message saying 'Your sheep are in the fanks' and having to go down with a bucket to take them back out!
Horses are buggers for this too. You'll go to get one or two of them and end up with the whole stables lined up. I recall once my sister's 'pet' (useless) pony was tied up outside the feed room, we'd all been having a cuppa in the caravan and I went out to see the pony, who had vanished. Immediately went to tell my sis, who didn't believe me.

Turned out he'd managed to untie himself with his teeth and had wandered into the feed room where he had his head stuck in the bin just going mad eating everything. Nightmare getting him back out.

Sound ideal. Soon we will have a whole host of farm animals to cheer us all up.

I have tested + today after having a rollercoaster temp for a couple of days. How long does the bodypain and exhaustion last? In the space of a week I have gone from being able to run 5k to struggling with stairs. I am quite scared.
Found it lasted for maybe four or five days for me after testing positive and I was exhausted after but I'd been unable to eat properly throughout so that didn't help. Take it easy and don't do too much straight off when you're testing negative. Hope you're back to normal soon, wouldn't wish this tit on anyone ❤ Try not to get frustrated with yourself too, the brain fog is real
 
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Just popping back here because well,

I think, I am finally on the road to recovery after a lot of reading, a lot of soul-searching and a lot of talking. Making proper food is now a priority to prevent restricting (with the inevitable behaviour that follows) and that food has to be nice because for so long I have tricked myself into not liking certain things because *calories. It feels like the voice on my shoulder is starting to disappear, after years of shouting at me over and over again.

Anyway, here for the chat, advice about flapjack and ways to make yummy food. The emphasis is on yummy, no cock soup here pls.
 
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Just popping back here because well,

I think, I am finally on the road to recovery after a lot of reading, a lot of soul-searching and a lot of talking. Making proper food is now a priority to prevent restricting (with the inevitable behaviour that follows) and that food has to be nice because for so long I have tricked myself into not liking certain things because *calories. It feels like the voice on my shoulder is starting to disappear, after years of shouting at me over and over again.

Anyway, here for the chat, advice about flapjack and ways to make yummy food. The emphasis is on yummy, no cock soup here pls.
Sending you all of the love, Tunnel, and sounds like you’re making amazing progress ❤ I don’t have any specific recommendations but I absolutely love the BBC good food website, and find that recipes with high ratings really do turn out exactly as they should, and are very appetising unlike for example that apple porridge abomination from Jack Morley 😫
 
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Great news Tunnel. I know its hard work but its really paying off now.


Last week I had a lightbulb moment about ED in work. In true Jackie style I have dropped the breadcrumbs of my job and part it is to make sure policy and public services are accessible to vulnerable people, marginalised groups etc. I am a hippy in corporate world.

After a meeting last week I sat with a member of staff who had the most bizarre collection of things for lunch (I would never comment to anyone on their choice of lunch) so didn't say anything, not my business. Anyway he then went on to tell me in forensic detail how this style of eating was going to help him loose weight. I said that he should just eat a balanced diet. He got really defensive and started at me with the science behind it - all I could see was that he was eating a collection of horrible things and making mealtimes miserable.. Now I know he is a totally intelligent and articulate man as he is a tough one in the meetings but none of this made sense to me. He went on for ages.

Anyway on the train home I realised Id been a total t**t. I realised that he had an issue with food and I had been flippant in my response. More to the point he would be classed as one of the marginalised groups as there must be so many people with a challenging relationship with food who remain undiagnosed and managing to hide it every day. Only the absolute extremes of this issue are ever seen. For example we are now forecasting how many people will need bariatric care over the next 10/20 years so we have the right amount of strong & wide hospital beds, specialist nurses and the equipment (eg hoists).

Sorry for the total me-rail but it felt topical to share and I am now looking at ways to make sure we can provide the services we need to this group but there is very little out there in terms of research.

Also I am off work so you'll be seeing more of me on here

C19 is like an alien disease. Someone said upthread that it creeps back up on you. I swear I was hallucinating last night but was ok in the day. I could see the kids toys moving on the floor. Today I feel ok-ish. Possibly the oddest question I will ask but I am sweating when my temp goes up and it smells really odd - did anyone else have this?

How's everyone else? Any threads I should read while I am home? I am loving the 'influencers' who think they are going to track us down and the police are going to arrest us all for saying that they have poor dress sense, shouldn't sit on sideboards partially clothed or they are rude to talk with food in their mouth. The total lack of self awareness when you see all the other things going on in the world.
 
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I think I said it ebbs and flows, it’s just a really odd illness and not like anything I’d had before. I smell funny when I’m ill, not just the Rona but any fever, not sure what the science is.
I like a read of the off topic threads myself
 
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@Universal I’m partial to the Brogan Tate threads wiki here.

I’ve been terrible for not replying properly recently and just liking things instead. Sending love to those feeling rough ❤
 
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Just popping back here because well,

I think, I am finally on the road to recovery after a lot of reading, a lot of soul-searching and a lot of talking. Making proper food is now a priority to prevent restricting (with the inevitable behaviour that follows) and that food has to be nice because for so long I have tricked myself into not liking certain things because *calories. It feels like the voice on my shoulder is starting to disappear, after years of shouting at me over and over again.

Anyway, here for the chat, advice about flapjack and ways to make yummy food. The emphasis is on yummy, no cock soup here pls.
Such good news ❤ I also find That Man's website good,I have never made anything from him that didn't come out well tbh

Great news Tunnel. I know its hard work but its really paying off now.


Last week I had a lightbulb moment about ED in work. In true Jackie style I have dropped the breadcrumbs of my job and part it is to make sure policy and public services are accessible to vulnerable people, marginalised groups etc. I am a hippy in corporate world.

After a meeting last week I sat with a member of staff who had the most bizarre collection of things for lunch (I would never comment to anyone on their choice of lunch) so didn't say anything, not my business. Anyway he then went on to tell me in forensic detail how this style of eating was going to help him loose weight. I said that he should just eat a balanced diet. He got really defensive and started at me with the science behind it - all I could see was that he was eating a collection of horrible things and making mealtimes miserable.. Now I know he is a totally intelligent and articulate man as he is a tough one in the meetings but none of this made sense to me. He went on for ages.

Anyway on the train home I realised Id been a total t**t. I realised that he had an issue with food and I had been flippant in my response. More to the point he would be classed as one of the marginalised groups as there must be so many people with a challenging relationship with food who remain undiagnosed and managing to hide it every day. Only the absolute extremes of this issue are ever seen. For example we are now forecasting how many people will need bariatric care over the next 10/20 years so we have the right amount of strong & wide hospital beds, specialist nurses and the equipment (eg hoists).

Sorry for the total me-rail but it felt topical to share and I am now looking at ways to make sure we can provide the services we need to this group but there is very little out there in terms of research.

Also I am off work so you'll be seeing more of me on here

C19 is like an alien disease. Someone said upthread that it creeps back up on you. I swear I was hallucinating last night but was ok in the day. I could see the kids toys moving on the floor. Today I feel ok-ish. Possibly the oddest question I will ask but I am sweating when my temp goes up and it smells really odd - did anyone else have this?

How's everyone else? Any threads I should read while I am home? I am loving the 'influencers' who think they are going to track us down and the police are going to arrest us all for saying that they have poor dress sense, shouldn't sit on sideboards partially clothed or they are rude to talk with food in their mouth. The total lack of self awareness when you see all the other things going on in the world.
I would suggest a thread about some rubbishy daytime show you end up watching, I now cannot wfh in the day but used to love bitching about the Loose Women :ROFLMAO:
 
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Urgh I’ve had my flu shot so feel like I have the flu now 🤒 I’ve been rewatching Brass Eye, the past really is a different place isn’t it. Anyway no more cooking for me, I got m&s ready meals the other day and I’m eating malteasers anyway.
Oh I got the IT cosmetics cc (original silver tube) as well the other day, wearing it today and happy with it so far it’s lasted ok and looks better than foundation. I’m off to waste time reading boredpanda.com
 
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I completely lost my sense of smell when I had COVID and my cat never complained so I've no idea whether I smelt weird or not. I did open the windows as much as possible as I was paranoid that after a week-long fever my flat was going to smell rancid. For thread reading, the Cleaning With Mario thread is a 10/10. It's warm and cosy but be prepared to stay in your own lane and sit down and get some class my lovely, so aye.
 
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I completely lost my sense of smell when I had COVID and my cat never complained so I've no idea whether I smelt weird or not. I did open the windows as much as possible as I was paranoid that after a week-long fever my flat was going to smell rancid. For thread reading, the Cleaning With Mario thread is a 10/10. It's warm and cosy but be prepared to stay in your own lane and sit down and get some class my lovely, so aye.
Cleaning with Mario is my go to thread ifI need to chill out.

I want to post there, but I just don’t think that I will manage their sense of humour 🤣.

Thanks @emm … will definitely give Jamie a go, I have a couple of the Good Food mini books from the charity shop.

Hope all that feel rubbish are enjoying the fact that there are no horrid pics to make them feel worse this evening. I am settling down to catch up on Manhunt. My mum said to me earlier that “it was nice and slow, so you will cope and not lose track.”

😔.
 
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How is everyone? How are all the babys born while on the thread getting on?

Christ, Tattle is such a great way to lose time. Some threads are wild!!! I am emotionally invested in so many people I dont care about. I have laughed my head off at times today. I love it when I see posts from you lot elsewhere, dont know why!
 
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How is everyone? How are all the babys born while on the thread getting on?

Christ, Tattle is such a great way to lose time. Some threads are wild!!! I am emotionally invested in so many people I dont care about. I have laughed my head off at times today. I love it when I see posts from you lot elsewhere, dont know why!
Ah I love spotting cabal members out in the Tattle wilderness! I often browse the off topic threads, from crimes and murders to favourite sandwiches! 😅
 
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Happy weekend everyone! anyone watching Saturday Kitchen? Made me laugh how gary kemp thought jasmine rice was some sort of specific seasoning in the rice :ROFLMAO:
 
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Just to prove I kept my word and didn't send her to the cast ewe sale last week...

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Badger was too busy eating to pose for pictures, but Badger's Mum, April and Little Nine all came over to say hello too. They're in good condition and no one is lame, so they can all stay out a while longer yet and I'll save the good grass in the fields for when the weather gets rough.

Had to do a 40 mile round trip to the SSPCA centre this evening after Senior Dog found a rabbit hole on our walk and dug the whole thing out before I realised it was a rabbit hole and not just her normal habit of digging at anything and everything. Mum bunny had fled, but there were five baby bunnies (eyes not quite open yet) huddled together in the soil - very luckily the dog hadn't managed to pick any of them off - so after a quick call to the SSPCA for advice, they came home with me, got popped into a bucket with some sheep fleece to snuggle into and handed over to one of the SSPCA staff, who after a quick health check took them home to be fed round the clock. All five were active and a good weight, so fingers crossed they'll be successfully released back into the wild when they're bigger.
 
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How is everyone? How are all the babys born while on the thread getting on?

Christ, Tattle is such a great way to lose time. Some threads are wild!!! I am emotionally invested in so many people I dont care about. I have laughed my head off at times today. I love it when I see posts from you lot elsewhere, dont know why!
I know exactly what you mean, it reminds me of school when you pass one your mates in the corridor while you’re both off in different directions but give a each other quick shout!
I really like the Saturday Night Kitchen disco thread, I guess this is the best time to mention it! 🤣
 
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How is everyone? How are all the babys born while on the thread getting on?

Christ, Tattle is such a great way to lose time. Some threads are wild!!! I am emotionally invested in so many people I dont care about. I have laughed my head off at times today. I love it when I see posts from you lot elsewhere, dont know why!
Hope you’re feeling a bit better today. Not had Corona myself but it makes me apprehensive as there seems to be no rule book with it!

Baby Beds recently turned one! What a flipping year we’ve had (as has everyone).

But he’s now through the soya and egg ladder just the milk one to go and is mainly a really happy content baby. Still having reflux issues - not sure if anyone else has had similar but he has to go for a swallow test in a few weeks. He’s on medication which had been really helping but he’s now at the maximum dosage and obviously weighs more now so not as effective. The Consultant just wants to rule out any hidden hernias etc. My eldest had reflux (very different experience) and was on ranitidine which worked wonders but they don’t prescribe it anymore.

Baby Beds has also had some sessions at nursery ahead of my return to work and done really well but this weekend come out in hand foot and mouth! My eldest somehow dodged this so new territory. Giving him calpol/ibrofen (spaced apart) and oral spray to help his throat/mouth ulcers but has anyone else been through it and has any tips?
 
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Hope you’re feeling a bit better today. Not had Corona myself but it makes me apprehensive as there seems to be no rule book with it!

Baby Beds recently turned one! What a flipping year we’ve had (as has everyone).

But he’s now through the soya and egg ladder just the milk one to go and is mainly a really happy content baby. Still having reflux issues - not sure if anyone else has had similar but he has to go for a swallow test in a few weeks. He’s on medication which had been really helping but he’s now at the maximum dosage and obviously weighs more now so not as effective. The Consultant just wants to rule out any hidden hernias etc. My eldest had reflux (very different experience) and was on ranitidine which worked wonders but they don’t prescribe it anymore.

Baby Beds has also had some sessions at nursery ahead of my return to work and done really well but this weekend come out in hand foot and mouth! My eldest somehow dodged this so new territory. Giving him calpol/ibrofen (spaced apart) and oral spray to help his throat/mouth ulcers but has anyone else been through it and has any tips?
Same, babe!

Nursery has been really tough for us too with a never ending string of illnesses, been there with H&F, norovirus, vomiting bug last week, this week a cough. It really grinds you down as a working mummy and I say this all the time but idk how the duck women did it before the remote working ~revolution?! Horrific. I have no tips other than it’ll pass soon enough promise my love, 111 are brilliant with baby concerns so if you get worried do give them a call and they’ll have a doctor call you back ASAP. Have found pharmacists very hit and miss sadly!

Brilliant re: dairy ladder! How exciting as this opens up a whole new world. Are you still vegan? How’s that going? Also happy first birthday cutie baby Beds ❤❤❤

Baby H is also now over one, do we still call them babies? Are they toddlers? She’s so funny, although not sure if I’ve just lost it or if she’s legit funny? And getting smarter by the day, she can now say no to requests for kisses and when I ask if she wants her nappy changed.

Insanely she has a full set of teeth (weirdly early) so is thriving with food thank god as weaning was my least favourite part of motherhood, nursery definitely helps with that. Yesterday we had a <then everybody clapped> Twitter moment with food - we went to that little known indie restaurant called Wagamama’s & a man in his 60s from the plastic screen booth next to us came over at the end of his meal and said how lovely it was to see her just getting on with a Katsu curry (she mainly had the side salad and rice tbh), and how you’d never have had that in his day. Tbf you didn’t have that in mine either lol but I was proud she did really well with it!

Sometimes I have my doubts over attachment parenting and if I’ve made the right choice? Sleep is eternally tough (thankfully nursery have managed to get her napping there which I feared would be impossible) and nursery have mentioned she’s very cuddly (read: clingy) and are over the moon when she has more independent play time. I hope I haven’t made her destined to be unhappy when she’s away from me, or that she’s losing out on independence? At home she’s like mummy who??? She’s desperate to get out or bounce etc so I’m not *too* worried it’s just the eternal creeping doubt isn’t it. Same with work any adversity I’m like duck this I’m off, although the last week has been ✨brilliant✨ and I am loving it!
 
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Hope you’re feeling a bit better today. Not had Corona myself but it makes me apprehensive as there seems to be no rule book with it!

Baby Beds recently turned one! What a flipping year we’ve had (as has everyone).

But he’s now through the soya and egg ladder just the milk one to go and is mainly a really happy content baby. Still having reflux issues - not sure if anyone else has had similar but he has to go for a swallow test in a few weeks. He’s on medication which had been really helping but he’s now at the maximum dosage and obviously weighs more now so not as effective. The Consultant just wants to rule out any hidden hernias etc. My eldest had reflux (very different experience) and was on ranitidine which worked wonders but they don’t prescribe it anymore.

Baby Beds has also had some sessions at nursery ahead of my return to work and done really well but this weekend come out in hand foot and mouth! My eldest somehow dodged this so new territory. Giving him calpol/ibrofen (spaced apart) and oral spray to help his throat/mouth ulcers but has anyone else been through it and has any tips?
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Congratulations little Baby Beds for turning one. There will be documentaries made about the babies born this year! I didnt experience reflux with my two but my friend did and I know its exhausting trying to rule in or rule out all of the causes. Ig I remember rightly her son grew out of it after a year so fingers crossed.
I had never heard of hand, foot & mouth when my eldest got it from nursery!!! I thought it was an animal disease. Ours was a mild case but I remember being worried as I was pregnant with my second at the time. Hope Baby beds is over it soon. How are you feeling about returning to work?

I am much better today thanks but I have been doing very little. Thankfully the boys dad agreed to take them an extra night. I am not sure how I am going to feel trying to get back to some sort of normal life next week. My brain feels really slow.

I do have a second date planned though. He has been really nice and texted me every day to see how I am.

What is everyone up to today? I am watching Bake Off and have a FANCY M&S roast veg pizza ready for later.

Same, babe!

Nursery has been really tough for us too with a never ending string of illnesses, been there with H&F, norovirus, vomiting bug last week, this week a cough. It really grinds you down as a working mummy and I say this all the time but idk how the duck women did it before the remote working ~revolution?! Horrific. I have no tips other than it’ll pass soon enough promise my love, 111 are brilliant with baby concerns so if you get worried do give them a call and they’ll have a doctor call you back ASAP. Have found pharmacists very hit and miss sadly!

Brilliant re: dairy ladder! How exciting as this opens up a whole new world. Are you still vegan? How’s that going? Also happy first birthday cutie baby Beds ❤❤❤

Baby H is also now over one, do we still call them babies? Are they toddlers? She’s so funny, although not sure if I’ve just lost it or if she’s legit funny? And getting smarter by the day, she can now say no to requests for kisses and when I ask if she wants her nappy changed.

Insanely she has a full set of teeth (weirdly early) so is thriving with food thank god as weaning was my least favourite part of motherhood, nursery definitely helps with that. Yesterday we had a <then everybody clapped> Twitter moment with food - we went to that little known indie restaurant called Wagamama’s & a man in his 60s from the plastic screen booth next to us came over at the end of his meal and said how lovely it was to see her just getting on with a Katsu curry (she mainly had the side salad and rice tbh), and how you’d never have had that in his day. Tbf you didn’t have that in mine either lol but I was proud she did really well with it!

Sometimes I have my doubts over attachment parenting and if I’ve made the right choice? Sleep is eternally tough (thankfully nursery have managed to get her napping there which I feared would be impossible) and nursery have mentioned she’s very cuddly (read: clingy) and are over the moon when she has more independent play time. I hope I haven’t made her destined to be unhappy when she’s away from me, or that she’s losing out on independence? At home she’s like mummy who??? She’s desperate to get out or bounce etc so I’m not *too* worried it’s just the eternal creeping doubt isn’t it. Same with work any adversity I’m like duck this I’m off, although the last week has been ✨brilliant✨ and I am loving it!
Congrats to you and baby H for making it to one!
Its like a double whammy going back to work and the inevitable poorly child situations from being newly exposed to all these germs. Looking back I dont know how I did it as I had to travel for work at times. At one point I had two under two and worked full time so the three of us had to be up dressed and ready for day at nursery drop off. I can safely say that I recall to TV, films, music etc from that time I was permanently BUSY.

Its always a lovely parenting moment when someone comments on your childs behaviour in a restaurant. Even better when its a little known indie one.

Dont worry about your parenting style. I think we all know what the right thing is by instinct. You sound like you have one lovely and contented baby.
 
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