Fleur De Force #6 To Buy or not Dubai

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She seems to be more comfortable with flaunting her wealth lately to her peasant followers. I've noticed a bit of a DGAF attitude since Dubai.
What’s the expression - might as well be hanged for a sheep as for a lamb?
 
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I also think she wants to tempt people back and she knows that house stuff gets the most views.
 
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I also think she wants to tempt people back and she knows that house stuff gets the most views.
Yeah, if she gives it all away in one big tour, she won't have anything left to show off. Also, I get the sense that the house is so huge there's still quite a lot of work to be done on it – they've mostly focused on the main living areas so far and it would be impossible to hide those from viewers during vlogs, so that's what we've seen in tours. She also has to be careful about how she describes the renovations since the house was essentially given to them by Mike's parents to avoid inheritance tax so she can't really be too mean about it. I bet that kills her.
 
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She was not more relatable and savvy back then, she’s always been the same but people are waking up and can see through her carefully crafted lies now.

Very glad she got a much-needed break from overseeing the renovation of her dog room
 
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I think it’s because she doesn’t want to explicitly show their vast wealth. If her followers truly know how wealthy they are, they might not continue to support her or keep swiping up.
I’m always confused by this though because yeah she’s sketchy about wanting tours done of her houses (not just the current mansion she lives in but every house she’s been in during her yt career), but yet she’s also published books under the brand: Luxe Life ? So which is it Fleur are you common or not?
 
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Just signed up to say this… anyone notice in the latest story about the mural in River’s wardrobe, the private/ prep school boater hat? Given how the education system maximises and perpetuates the class and wealth divide I can’t say I’m surprised but it makes me livid. I know parental choice exists but I never see her speaking out about the massive amount of inequality in the UK and it disappoints me that she wants to help fund and facilitate a system that causes so much suffering for people in both state and private schools. I asked her if she’s sending River to a private school on her most recent Instagram Q&A and of course she ignored me. The education system is one of the core reasons why British society is so divided and meritocracy doesn’t exist
 
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Just signed up to say this… anyone notice in the latest story about the mural in River’s wardrobe, the private/ prep school boater hat? Given how the education system maximises and perpetuates the class and wealth divide I can’t say I’m surprised but it makes me livid. I know parental choice exists but I never see her speaking out about the massive amount of inequality in the UK and it disappoints me that she wants to help fund and facilitate a system that causes so much suffering for people in both state and private schools. I asked her if she’s sending River to a private school on her most recent Instagram Q&A and of course she ignored me. The education system is one of the core reasons why British society is so divided and meritocracy doesn’t exist
Im 99% sure that hat is from Zara.
I’m also 99% sure River will go to private school.
 
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How does someone who spends all day pinning inspiration and researching decor just repeatedly get it so wrong?
 
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How does someone who spends all day pinning inspiration and researching decor just repeatedly get it so wrong?
I think it’s to do with confidence. Fleur is a snobby witch. But I have always found her being insecure with her choices. She tries too hard. She must know that she doesn’t have a great/good sense in style and that makes her want to compensate that even more. I really feel that she is never really too confident about fashion or styling. She has also expressed insecurities about her body in her early YouTube days and I used to wonder maybe that’s why she layers so much which in turn makes her look frumpy. I feel this goes with her other choices in decor as well. Fleur does come from a rich background but I don’t think she has class. I don’t think her mom or sis have that either coz they all have such tacky styling choices. She just hit the lottery - in this case being part of an even upper social class when she married Mike.
The silly pink room that she recently renovated is such a huge example. I hate what she did to it. Like she got every single thing wrong in that room and this is the result when she can actually more than afford great styling advise , amazing resources. I guess you just can’t get the tackiness out no matter what your social standing is.
 
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Just signed up to say this… anyone notice in the latest story about the mural in River’s wardrobe, the private/ prep school boater hat? Given how the education system maximises and perpetuates the class and wealth divide I can’t say I’m surprised but it makes me livid. I know parental choice exists but I never see her speaking out about the massive amount of inequality in the UK and it disappoints me that she wants to help fund and facilitate a system that causes so much suffering for people in both state and private schools. I asked her if she’s sending River to a private school on her most recent Instagram Q&A and of course she ignored me. The education system is one of the core reasons why British society is so divided and meritocracy doesn’t exist
I think there are a lot of problematic things about Fleur but she's not the only person in the country who may send their child to a private school. I do think sometimes influencers can't win.. would you really expect someone not to give their child the best opportunities they can just because their job is to show their life online?
 
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I think there are a lot of problematic things about Fleur but she's not the only person in the country who may send their child to a private school. I do think sometimes influencers can't win.. would you really expect someone not to give their child the best opportunities they can just because their job is to show their life online?
I think so too. The problem in this case isn't Fleur, it's the system that promotes class hierarchie, social division etc. In Germany, private unis are very looked down upon except maybe 1 or 2 (but couldn't name them) and graduates are seen as someone with no academic skill whose parents bought them their degree.
 
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I think there are a lot of problematic things about Fleur but she's not the only person in the country who may send their child to a private school. I do think sometimes influencers can't win.. would you really expect someone not to give their child the best opportunities they can just because their job is to show their life online?
I agree, I too would want what I deem is best for my child. I like Fleur (controversial) but I would much rather watch her than someone like imogentaion/busy bee carys. I just think she’s got that element of decorum and so what if she’s got a bit of £££, from watching her all these years she’s not going to change now and she’s obviously been exposed to a pretty privileged life.
 
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I think so too. The problem in this case isn't Fleur, it's the system that promotes class hierarchie, social division etc. In Germany, private unis are very looked down upon except maybe 1 or 2 (but couldn't name them) and graduates are seen as someone with no academic skill whose parents bought them their degree.
What you’re describing is not like private primary and secondary education in Britain. Private education is seen as better due to smaller class sizes, more one-on-one teacher time, wider selection of activities and opportunities. Children who go to private schools often do better academically. The school often has better resources to coach them to do well. Not to say that some state schools aren’t great and also deliver good results but children in a class size of 12 will usually do better than those in a class size of 30+.
 
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Of course she'll go to private school. I'm 101% sure she'll end up at Rugby same as Fleur. I honestly hadn't even considered anything else! There's no way that all of the siblings on Fleur's side and on Mike's don't send theirs private.
 
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Agree with others. The public private system exists in Ireland too but I think there are some differences when compared to the UK.
I like to think I’m for social equality but when it comes down to I’ll do the best I can for my child.
 
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Ah yes, it's the best choice for your child to only socially interact with the same social class and, by total coincidence, exclusively white people. It has nothing to do with "what's best for your child", it's purely based on separating social classes and keeping up the divide between groups. Nothing more. River will grow up in that system for the sole purpose of finding equally rich friends and a rich partner to marry later on. This is not about her education or actual well-being. Nor is it for any other kid that's being sent to private school or boarding schools. At least one of the women I worked for in London was honest about it; she and her husband spent all their money on their kids' private school fees so they could form friendships in higher social circles. I remember her telling me (in front of one of the kids) that there were "many important children" in the daughter's class. Meaning, they were the kids of celebrities, politicians and other wealthy people.

Having said all that, it's the least surprising thing about Fleur and Mike that they would send their daughter to an expensive private school. What else would they do? :-D But I think it's totally ok to voice one's opinion on that :)
 
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Ah yes, it's the best choice for your child to only socially interact with the same social class and, by total coincidence, exclusively white people. It has nothing to do with "what's best for your child", it's purely based on separating social classes and keeping up the divide between groups. Nothing more. River will grow up in that system for the sole purpose of finding equally rich friends and a rich partner to marry later on. This is not about her education or actual well-being. Nor is it for any other kid that's being sent to private school or boarding schools. At least one of the women I worked for in London was honest about it; she and her husband spent all their money on their kids' private school fees so they could form friendships in higher social circles. I remember her telling me (in front of one of the kids) that there were "many important children" in the daughter's class. Meaning, they were the kids of celebrities, politicians and other wealthy people.

Having said all that, it's the least surprising thing about Fleur and Mike that they would send their daughter to an expensive private school. What else would they do? :-D But I think it's totally ok to voice one's opinion on that :)
Yes, this 100%! I have family that send their kids to private school purely so they can make beneficial friendships that will set them up for life. The kids only socialise with others from their classes, they go to the same extra curricular activities (usually run through the school) so that they still only mix with their “own”. The kids of said family members are actually looked down on because they’re nowhere near as wealthy as the rest of the families and they’re seen as infiltrators in to this system that’s been set up to protect the wealthy.

I genuinely believe that is private schools were either abolished or taxed properly, public schools would be better funded. For one if they were abolished, the wealthy would suddenly care about the standard of public schooling and I’d bet my life savings that it would suddenly become exceptional. Or that they would find another way to separate their kids from the less fortunate.

I’m always a bit disappointed when families support the private school system and the continuation of this class divide but, to be honest, I never expected any less from the Bell’s lol.
 
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The situation is quite different in Ireland, the issues you mentioned only exist to a minor degree as we don’t have the class system in the same way. It’s still easier to get a job in certain fields if you went to certain schools.

The flip side in Ireland is if I sent my child to certain schools in areas with a lot of social issues the teacher’s time is more likely to be taken up with disciplining a few kids, or kids who don’t speak English as their first language & my child won’t get the attention they would probably get elsewhere. My Mum spent years teaching in a school in a deprived area & said a lot of her time was taken up with a few unruly kids while the rest of the class had to sit there. There are no doubt tons of very valid reasons why those kids are unruly but it’s not fair on the children left sitting there. That just is how it is, if I can send my child up a school where that is less likely to happen I will.
 
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The situation is quite different in Ireland, the issues you mentioned only exist to a minor degree as we don’t have the class system in the same way. It’s still easier to get a job in certain fields if you went to certain schools.

The flip side in Ireland is if I sent my child to certain schools in areas with a lot of social issues the teacher’s time is more likely to be taken up with disciplining a few kids, or kids who don’t speak English as their first language & my child won’t get the attention they would probably get elsewhere. My Mum spent years teaching in a school in a deprived area & said a lot of her time was taken up with a few unruly kids while the rest of the class had to sit there. There are no doubt tons of very valid reasons why those kids are unruly but it’s not fair on the children left sitting there. That just is how it is, if I can send my child up a school where that is less likely to happen I will.
You know you’ll be chasing the impossible don’t you? The kids with mental issues can be difficult, the kids on the rough as a bears arse council estate with a single parent can be difficult, the kids with the two parents working full time with the decent house, car, hols but are too knackered to parent can be difficult I could go on and on but I won’t just you can’t avoid disruptive kids it’s part and parcel of school a bit like a bit of bullying whether it be a little or a lot a kids go through comp experiencing it on some level
 
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