Fashion Mumblr #5 Saint Josie and the law of diminishing returns

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Not to dox myself, but I have some experience with this. She has no legal leg to stand on. She also cannot find out our identities without a subpoena and a court would not grant that unless they believed she was really being slandered, which she isn’t. In some places, legal intimidation without actual back up is a crime (ie “I’ve called my lawyer and you’ll be served shortly!” When you won’t be.) my guess is she would either ask the companies for our identities or try to intimidate Stephanie and Zoelondondj. Still neither of them have done anything illegal.
Cool! I am just looking out for you all. You are my extended family.

As you were 😂
 
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I should add she will need a hell of a lot of money to instruct lawyers ...litigation doesn’t cheap ...even if she had a case. Which I doubt she does.
 
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Nah she can’t, because we are sharing someone’s post not ours to start with. Also this exposes her as a racist.
Any lawyers here to confirm?
And can any solicitors here confirm that sending fruit and veg photos isn't illegal.... very concerned for VegetableAboutTown 😃
 
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Cool! I am just looking out for you all. You are my extended family.

As you were 😂

I appreciate the concern. None of us are adding anything besides: hey check this out. If the brand wants to continue to work with her, that’s on them. We didn’t post it on IG.
 
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So I've been back at work full time and haven't been keeping up to date here...last time I was on we'd only just started this thread...update me! What have I missed?!
 
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She can’t legally come after us as we haven’t slandered her. We are just showing reality. If we made it up and messaged them, then it would be an issue. But we didn’t. We just showed examples of her behavior.
Yeah, it's not like we accused her of using pesticides or something ;)
 
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They are the most ignorant privileged couple ever. I cringe watching them play country like a couple of school kids playing house. But they are both results of their own upbringing. She has messed up big time, and she’s not dealing with it well. I’m not sure she has any life experience to understand why she’s wrong. And know-it-all Charlie is probably reassuring her and making it worse. But....and I say this with caution... do we need to go after her and her business in this way? Yes her sponsors should be made aware of what’s going on and her behaviour should be corrected. But Caroline Flack hit her boyfriend and people going for her causes her to commit suicide. We should be kind. Show her by example how she needs to behave. Highlight her bad behaviour and let her correct it. I think they’re both disgusting show offs and are now being outed by their own bullshit. But also, imagine you were watching your world fall apart though your phone. I’m probably naive but wouldn’t it be nice if everyone was kind to each other, irrespective of colour, class, wealth etc. Just throwing it out there.
 
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And can any solicitors here confirm that sending fruit and veg photos isn't illegal.... very concerned for VegetableAboutTown 😃
I can confirm that no one has to worry about a thing, except maybe Woo, as food porn is seen as a serious crime in most countries 😱.

But don't worry my darling, my fees are very reasonable 🙃.
 
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Long time lurker. Never commenter. Just leaving this here:


Looks like a vlog uploaded 2 days ago that hasn’t been properly titled and doesn't show up on her page. I haven't watched it yet but we can safely assume she wont be mentioning BLM!
 
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In terms of damage limitation, it wouldn’t surprise me if she comes after the individuals here for sending messages to brands. I mean in the legal sense.
I have a legal background and I don't know what claim she'd have against us. Criminal law isn't my specialty, admittedly, but I do know a little about defamation, which is what I suspect she'd try to go after people for. Defamation is a strict liability offence - dependent on facts of defamation and not the intention of the defendant. As a person, she would have a right to sue for defamation. A permanent statement would potentially be libellous, rather than slanderous (Monson v Tussauds). It is no longer a crime. She can take action if she can prove that she suffered serious harm (s1(1) Defamation Act 2013 ("DA")).

For a statement to be defamatory, it must have lowered Josie in the eyes of right-thinking members of society generally (Sim v Stretch), cause Josie to be shunned or avoided (Youssoupoff v MGN) or expose her to hatred, ridicule or contempt (Berkoff v Burchill). She's been named, so the cases I know on identification are irrelevant. The statement must be published to a valid third party - that's satisfied as this is a public site. A repeat libel is still libel (s8 DA). But then comes the fun part: Defences.

Truth would be our defence. It is available under s2 DA and it is absolute. The sting of the libel needs to be true - in this case I would say that the sting is what Stephanie called out. That is what is going to cause Josie harm. Therefore it is a defamatory imputation of fact, the burden is on us to prove that she posted those stories, which there are screenshots of, so that's satisfied & any malice, knowledge and fault of our members is considered to be irrelevant.

Therefore, I would not advise Josie, if I were her solicitor, to take on a case of defamation. It would blow up in her face, she would lose money and she would further damage her reputation. This is a really abridged answer, but yeah it would be throwing good money after bad.
 
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