Yes, that was it! Knew it was something that relied on them being a couple. It always stuck in my head for how weird it must have felt for them both.Yeah I remember that! It was the La La Land promo and cover wasn't it? The duet cover is on his channel and I think Carrie did a solo on her channel. Someone said that on instagram she confirmed they had split before they recorded the cover and promo material. Awkward.
I'd forgotten which video it was, thank you for finding it.
This is the video where she makes the allegations. Back then she answered a comment saying it wasn't physical abuse, just punching walls. That comment is nowhere to be found (or at least difficult to find, didn't look that long).Anyone stumbling upon that video will assume Pete was violent and physically abused him and that's shitty if that wasn't the case
I mean the aggression itself can be terrifying though (I know you've said fair enough, I'm just making a point rather than a point aimed "at" you) - I lived with an aggressive alcoholic for two and a half years, and while the worst thing that happened to me was getting my foot shut in a door, being around that level of unpredictability and fuelled a lot of pre-existing anxiety.I think it’s because of the actual incidents. It was non violent, he threw stuff and broke something. I can’t remember the details but she said it was more of an aggression issue . Which is fair enough !
I also agree with that, alluding to things doesn't help anyone, let alone victims of abuse.That's very true, you don't have to be violent to be an abuser.
I don't know, I guess we will never know.
I may not be a fan of her anymore but if she was abused, I would absolutely be on her side, no question. As a victim of emotional abuse myself, I know what it's like to go through mind games and aggression.
I'm also not saying she has to sit there and give us every tiny detail about their relationship. We don't need to know, that's their business and if the wish to share it, that's for them to decide.
However, it just doesn't sit right with me. You don't just throw an accusation like around before vaguely like people's comments when they question you.
Accusations like that can ruin people. It could have ruined him.
I quite agree.My issue with it at the time was how she dealt with it. Making a vague accusation and then just liking any comment naming Pete to keep people speculating.
I think she could have used her platform to have been more vocal to support others and raise awareness. She could been like this is my experience, this wasn't right, this shows that relationships can appear perfect when they're not, here are some resources to help if your going through something similar.
It must have been hard if Pete was abusive to have so much pressure from fans to be a perfect Disney couple but she created that persona. I also think she should have learnt from that and not been as public with Oliver and also kept some of her own space once she left the flat, instead he moved into her brothers and then straight into her new house.
See, one of things I remember most about the whole Alex Day situation was that Carrie was really bad at victim blaming when it all came out. I understand she was relatively young (I want to say 19?) but her main issue seemed to be 'these girls slept with my boyfriend!' rather than 'my boyfriend coerced/bullied our friends into sleeping with him!', to the point of texting at least of the girls to chew her outI quite agree.
She did a video talking about Alex Day as I know she stated in that he was controlling an abusive.
I massively respected her for that video and thought it was great she was using her platform to speak out, and be so open about it. Especially when it was evident how difficult it was for her. That's the Carrie I loved.
She definitely created that persona and always tried to depict a perfect relationship. It definitely wasn't perfect as you could just tell from their videos no matter how much they tried to sugarcoat everything they did together.
I would have respected her (probably the wrong choice of words) more had she just backed it up in some way. Rather than just the vagueness of it all.
If she wasn't comfortable talking about it, she shouldn't have said anything and then come out with when she was ready.
Oooh, I has actually forgotten about that until you mentioned it so I hold my hands up there!See, one of things I remember most about the whole Alex Day situation was that Carrie was really bad at victim blaming when it all came out. I understand she was relatively young (I want to say 19?) but her main issue seemed to be 'these girls slept with my boyfriend!' rather than 'my boyfriend coerced/bullied our friends into sleeping with him!', to the point of texting at least of the girls to chew her outI don't remember if she ever apologised or acknowledged that what she did wasn't right (and maybe she did and grew from it) but that was the point where I started losing respect for her and it became difficult to regain it, especially with how she dealt with the Pete thing.
Obviously if she ever did feel unsafe in her relationship, that's not okay - but when you're a public figure, especially when your relationships have been as public as hers, you kinda don't get that luxury of only revealing what you want to afterwards. People were always going to guess identities, etc, and by trying to hide those aspects - yet also deliberately giving indirect hints such as liking correct 'guesses' - it almost made it seem a bit insincere. And I understand that's quite unfair to say because it's a really tricky and entirely unfair position to be in, where you can't only reveal what you feel comfortable with because everyone already knows too much... but withholding that level of honesty from your audience while still wanting the sympathy that comes from being honest makes it a lot harder to give that sympathy - if that all makes sense?
Absolutely, completely agree with not taking everything at face value. There are two sides to the story.From the way it looks to an outsider, she was emotionally abusive towards Pete.
People shouldn't victim-blame, of course...but they also shouldn't take everything at face value when evidence (the way she spoke down to him - and that was publicly, so god knows how she was behind closed doors. The way she threw herself at Oliver when she was still with Pete) suggests there's another side to the story.
Look at Johnny Depp and Amber Heard. JD was crucified online at first, and it ended up coming out that he was the victim.
When Carrie clarified in the comments of that video she said "There was never violence against me, there were walls being punched. The person in question is getting help". She was saying she dumped him because of these events, and yes, anger from a partner can definitely be scary and something you'd want to get out of. Sounds like she wanted to say that it happened and that this sort of behaviour is not ok,, but that he is a person who sees his anger issues and is actively doing something about it, which doesn't sound like she wanted him to be condemned as an abuser. She definitely should have clarified this in the fucking video instead of vaguely saying he was "aggressive and violent".Just to add, just because all the friends sided with one person, doesn’t mean that person was in the right. I’m not saying Pete was definitely an abuser, but you often find abusers are very convincing and good at gaining empathy. It’s not uncommon for victims of abuse to lose all their friends in a split or after reveal of abuse.
It must have ate her up inside that Oliver posted a picture with Kirsty Ingram as Wednesday and barely acknowledged Carrie at all.Her posting about "crying in Oliver's arms" when she had to take a day off of Adams due to illness. She wrote a whole book about the meanie hater understudy slut who hated her because she wasn't like other girls.
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