It comes across like: "Bad Cinderella. Cinderella is the catty name that they call me." Which makes no sense in context of the statement that Cinderella is her real name and "Bad Cinderella" is the cruel nickname :sI think the Bad Cinderella, Cinderella bit is to get the lyrics to fit the bars of the music but ends up being clumsy because we are wondering what her actual name is. It's like me saying my name is Good Kate, Kate. You'd say, what so good you name yourself twice?
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Fascinating. Sounds like typical, shady Carrie behaviour. Best wishes to your friend and I hope you wonāt face any backlash for posting this.Carrie's definitely been having some sort of breakdown over the last week or so. I was up late last night talking to someone we've worked with who's recently been cast in a show, and instead of being encouraging of them she's been banging on about how huge of a responsibility they now have to lead the industry back to how it was pre-covid (as if we'll be back to normal anytime soon in the first place) and making them feel insanely pressured. Like wow, a good luck doesn't hurt, Carrie.
We both feel like she's trying to throw them off a bit because Cinderella isn't going to be one of the first shows to open next week, but that's just our take on the conversation.
āBad Cinderellaā being a catty name is just so funny. It sounds like a pet being called out for doing something they shouldnāt do, not a catty that is supposed to be hurtful
LOON
NUTTER
LAME
Ms Advocate for mental health singing those god awful lyrics to Bad Cinderella and being ok with it?
Letās put as many stigmatising ācattyā names for those suffering from poor mental health in one song shall we Mr Zippel for the sake of a rhyming couplet.
This is the 21st century not the dark ages.
The time for names like that even in a work of frothy fiction has long gone.
I am surprised no one in the mainstream has picked up on it.
Its unlikely theyāll change the lyrics in previews as they seem to add the track to every bit of publicity they put out.
They wonāt listen to the public pointing it out I hope itās either mentioned in the reviews as jarring or the charity MIND come for them and show them itās not acceptable.
a song should stand on its own without the need for a visual to explain the lyric?
Calling it now. That song title will definitely come back to haunt them in the reviews. Itās an absolute gift for reviewers if they donāt like the show
NUTTER
LAME
Ms Advocate for mental health singing those god awful lyrics to Bad Cinderella and being ok with it?
Letās put as many stigmatising ācattyā names for those suffering from poor mental health in one song shall we Mr Zippel for the sake of a rhyming couplet.
This is the 21st century not the dark ages.
The time for names like that even in a work of frothy fiction has long gone.
I am surprised no one in the mainstream has picked up on it.
Its unlikely theyāll change the lyrics in previews as they seem to add the track to every bit of publicity they put out.
They wonāt listen to the public pointing it out I hope itās either mentioned in the reviews as jarring or the charity MIND come for them and show them itās not acceptable.
Also her pointing out that so many people have been confused by the lyric shows it definitely the lyricist and not the public.
a song should stand on its own without the need for a visual to explain the lyric?
Calling it now. That song title will definitely come back to haunt them in the reviews. Itās an absolute gift for reviewers if they donāt like the show
Wow, I had no idea about Colleen!
Loon, nutter, and lame are all ableist terms. I thought it was well known amongst most people not to use the word ālameā anymore. But then she doesnāt seem to give a tit about that, given her attitude towards autistic people. 
And "barking mad" ... although when Carrie sings it half the audience think she's saying "bleeping mad"Loon, nutter, and lame are all ableist terms. I thought it was well known amongst most people not to use the word ālameā anymore. But then she doesnāt seem to give a tit about that, given her attitude towards autistic people.
Forgot about that one!
Zippel really is a wonderfully modern lyricist isnāt he?
I suppose barking mad rhymes with bad and sad and nutter rhymes with mutter, utter and gutter it was probably just too tempting when he was looking in his year 6 rhyming dictionary.
As for Carrieās poor diction while singing weāve been here before in Heathers. But of course itās not her fault itāll be the public again for mishearing.
Iām remembering that lovely story thread she did about all the lyrics she personally has misheard over the years to justify her poor diction after someone asked her if the words were āheart of stoneā rather than the actual lyric āhard as stoneā in another of the Cinderella songs.
@Anon_moose - I'd love to know how Cinderella is being perceived by those in the industry... are you all on a similar mindset to us about it?
Looks like people are slowly getting sick of her tit.
She barely gets any engagement on Twitter from what I could tell before I got blocked anyway
Her IG has been also going on a steady decline.
from the people I've talked to about it, yeah I'd say so. we all think the PR's been done awfully and the story sounds like a huge mess. I feel awful for the new names coming into the industry who'll have to say cinderella was their first show because honestly, we don't see it lasting very long - that being said the newcomers seem lovely and I only hope for the best for them
I guess another issue Cinderella has is that it was developed with Carrie in mind as the lead, and she's approaching it pretty much as playing herself: a mouthy woman who insists she's "not like the other girls." This fits her image perfectly but wouldn't work so well with another actress unless they're a similar type, which makes me question how long the show will last
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Carrie has ruined Pink's new song for me. It's called 'All I Know So Far' and I like the song, but everytime I hear the song title I can't help but think it is the title of yet another of Carrie's books.
Not sure if this has been mentioned but do you think that Carrie will get her own car after shows now that she is ALWs star? 
Sheāll not want to miss meeeting fans at the stage door, just so she can complain about how awful they are and lecture everyone about the correct way to behave.
Donāt think sheās famous enough for that! I believe cars are usually paid for by the artist (donāt quote me on that). In New York, I remember walking past a stage door while people were waiting for the cast to come out and a car was waiting on the road just outside. I have no idea who they were waiting for but it is usually the famous people that get the cars- everyone else just gets the tube home (or subway in US).Not sure if this has been mentioned but do you think that Carrie will get her own car after shows now that she is ALWs star?
Random fun fact - when I stayed in New York a few years ago my hotel room looked down over the stage door and back entrance of the theatre when Sunset Boulevard was playing. I was in my room ill one day so was looking out the window and spotted huge crowds outside the stage door as Glenn Close was starring in the show. Unbeknownst to the waiting crowd, I spotted Glenn Close sneak out the back gate with her dog and get straight into the massive car that was waiting outside for her. The crowds stayed for another 30 minutes or so having not realised Glenn had already left.
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