houseofhoop
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He was only crying and saying sorry sorry cos he’s been found out
Not really. The negotiator did exactly what she was supposed to do. Negotiate without anyone, police or offenders, being killed. They were armed, dangerous, mentally ill and intoxicated. We are not America, and I am glad for that. If we were both of the men would have been shot multiple times in less than 5 minutes. A level of trust has to be reached between the offender and police for the best outcome, and that isn’t built in half an hour.I think it’s easy to get things wrong in a high stress situations. So not surprised if the police got details wrong.
Unfortunately it’s clear that UK police aren’t used to dealing with situations like this. They let it go on for far too long. I imagine from their perspective it’s a success as it was all resolved fairly amicably but tbh with you they shouldn’t pander to people like this. This is why sentencing and the whole system in the UK is an absolute joke
Wouldn't surprise me if he had done it too many times in his old place and was at risk of getting caught so moved away where he could "start again" it also shows how you don't know who people are he was so aggressive in those videos but when he was in the interview he acted more "normal" I bet people who know him had no idea , that's how scary it isHadn't he just rocked up in the town as well? That was one of his justifications for going out at night, to let off steam or something because he didn't know anyone. God knows what he got up to where he lived before.
I thought they were calling him a Dr at the end. This guy has to be one of the worst I’ve seen on this show. I was utterly sickened by what he was saying and with a grin on his face my God those poor men.Just found an article online about this case - will post it when it has finished. Can't find out what "kind" of Dr he was except he is an expert in AI - he is now appealing his sentence.
Rapist, 38, who attacked two gay men off Grindr is jailed for 15 years
'Arrogant, narcissistic and self-obsessed' Dr Mohammed Altaher (pictured), 38, from Bedford, violently raped two men he met through the gay dating app Grindr.www.dailymail.co.uk
I gave money to him, gladly, and will give more when I get paid. Not one of us knows how we'd react when seeing scummy bastards trying to rob us or break into our homes. These bastards came prepared, they were no novices at this sort of thing, have you seen their police record? And no, maybe he 'wasn't in the right, either' but he was the only one who lost his freedom, his home and his job, and is no doubt now feeling terrified and traumatized by the whole thing. The scummy bastards are laughing and trying to sue the actual victim.I think it’s insane that people are giving money to them. Yes, it was unbelievably wrong that the two attempted burglars didn’t get a harsher sentence - but he wasn’t in the right either. Wild
tbf to the bloke, it’s really easy for us to sit here and say that but imagine 2 people rocked up to your family home in the dark wearing masks, yielding a crowbar. Im not by any stretch justifying his actions here as they were reckless and disproportionate but to suggest he flies off the handle like that for anything because of 1 reaction to a situation that would put the fear of god in any one imo is a bit of a stretch.I’m not sure if I’m the only one who thinks this, but if his response to the burglars was to try and run them off the road (and maybe kill them) then does he have a measured response to other things in life?! If he and his wife argue for example, how does he respond to that?!
He wasn’t agitated at the police station though in fact he was pretty calm so there was no reason to think he would kick off. A simple ‘unfortunately due to the seriousness of the offence I won’t be able to grant you bail’ would have sufficedI think perhaps, she was trying to ensure the situation didn't escalate and he kicked off at her. I have heard psychiatric nurses will use a similar approach when a patient is distressed about something, for instance the patient is highly agitated saying, I am not sick, the nurse will agree with them to diffuse the situation and calm the patient, even though the patient is obviously sick. Perhaps her approach is similar, it is not my decision, I dont make the rules so don't take it out on me. I mean this was a guy who ran over someone in cold blood because they pissed him off, you would want to keep him as calm possible I would have thought.
The whole “he’s not a murderer, he’s my son” comment really pissed me off. He will always be your son but the fact of the matter is he killed a man, therefore is a murderer. One stab wound I might have had more sympathy and believed it could be self defence, but 15? He knew what 15 stab wounds would do to someone.The mum really angered me, oh her poor son she won’t be able to see him free for years and her life will change! What about the mother of the man he stabbed 15 times she will never see her son again! Just self pity from that side and yes your son is a murderer simple as!