UK Politics #5

[Moth]

Sunak trying to co-opt every populist issue as soon as it appears on Twitter in a frantic effort to garner support. ULEZ and 20 mph speed limits "against British values". I'm almost embarrassed for him now.

 

[Blueblue123]

This almost forensic analysis into where the attacker comes from matters because...?

We can trace the origins of all criminals and there would be no common thread. That won't help us figure out why crimes happen or work towards reducing crime.

What's more important is their psychology, experiences and the environment in which they were raised.

Certain circumstances cause someone to become a criminal, not where was their mother born

 

[BigMavis]

Yeah, they're an ethnic minority and protected by all sorts of laws and rightfully so.

 

[Miss Begotten]

Rachel Riley is a thoroughly unpleasant, ignorant gobshite. The only thing she’s interested in raising awareness of is Rachel Riley.
She actually congratulated the British people on electing Boris Johnson as PM. The same Boris Johnson who has made numerous anti semitic and racist comments. Twat.

 

[Blueblue123]

It being the first draft of the letter is not the defence she thinks it is. I'd also like to see what the final draft looks like because it must be in a similar vein.

 

[Blueblue123]

Low level staff are usually the ones to comply with the rules the most because their jobs are seen as more dispensible.

If the low level staff were ignoring the rules it's because someone at the top made them feel it was fine to do so.

 

[knivesnflowers]

i'd rather shit in my hands and clap than have a tory mp, if that means tactically voting for second or third choice then so be it

 

[BaxterBillions]

I think only around 20,000 pay it a year so on the grand scheme of things it's small fry but again it show how this lot are just totally uninterested in tackling the vast array of issues this country is facing, such as healthcare and housing, and just piss about with trivial stuff that nobody apart from their geriatric base gives a fuck about.

 

[Ndrangheta]

Fuck that is grim. Reminds me of the fall of the Third Reich, as all the top ranking officials were still living it up as Berlin burnt.

 

[Yel]

All parties are just ridiculous about the NHS. Both saying they'll fix it and solve everything. But never how they'll do it

It's a massively outdated model and what's really killing it is the refusal to modernise it to match other European models that achieve far better results.

People always talking about how much better paid people are in Australia without saying that system is based on insurance where people are paying more for it. And people in the UK flat out refuse this model.

Can't have your cake and eat it. They're all lying about how they'll magically fix it. It's been underfunded for decades while people have more and more expectations.

Will any grownups enter the conversation to be honest?

 

[CrackingOwlSanctuary]

Dame Priti Patel, who had to resign from the cabinet under May for effectively treason. Not even shocking at this point.

 

[Moth]

Theresa May; author of the 'hostile environment', the Windrush Scandal, 'Go Home" adverts, lies about the Human Rights Act, leader of the first government to be found in contempt of parliament, "citizens of nowhere" speech, disgraceful response to the Grenfell tragedy and at the time of her resignation arguably the worst Prime Minister of modern times. Still, I suppose compared to Johnson, Truss and Sunak she was 'decent'.

 

[BaxterBillions]

Thing is that those of us that aren't so young remember all too well that Labour are more than capable of big time fucking it all up just the same, and there's a reason that apart from Blair, Labour have never had more than two consecutive terms in office. The conservatives tend to manage to go 3 to 5 terms before they fully fall apart like they are now.

There is a huge clamour from young people to vote Labour in, and things will all be magically better, just as there was when Blair got in; and no doubt when it happens there will be parties in the street again, I well remember Blair's victory walk to 10 Downing Street and the atmosphere that day. But those parties won't last long, the handouts come for a while but it doesn't take long for the realisation that the fun needs to be paid for and that's when it gets hard again.

I do think it is probably time now to switch to Labour for a bit, just to remind everyone that they are equally bad and wicked and inept as the Conservatives.

Equally bad and wicked as this lot? Come on now

 

[FenellaTheWitch]

I'm surprised they haven't deleted this yet, every bit as bad as the Tories and their attacks on Keir with savill. And this is labour run under the former director of public prosecutions

All this has proven to me, is that they are all really as bad as each other. Labour are not a real alternative.

 

[Ndrangheta]

Boris going full Trump in his resignation letter is unedifying to say the least.

Of all today's front pages I think The Star captured the mood of most sensible people ...

 

[qwikti]

So Braverman steps beyond the asylum seeker issue to criticise general immigration and multiculturalism. Invokes patriotism and has the absolute gall to use David Cameron's phrase about 'all being in it together' to suggest that immigrants are not really part of this country. She rejects as "offensive" the suggestion that because she is the daughter of immigrants and comes from a multicultural background herself that it is hypocritical to be against these things.

She rejects the suggestion that we need to belong to the ECHR to protect our human rights while at the same time the government has been busy curtailing our right to protest, to vote, to strike and limit our right to judicial review. Who know where they will go next.

If this isn't outright fascism it is as 'fascist adjacent' as we have ever seen in this country. And what is genuinely frightening is that it appears to attract support from at least 25% of the country. Sickening and scary.

Braverman makes my skin crawl, I find her pathetic beyond words. I wonder when she's done spit-shining white brit's shoes, does she ever see herself in the reflection and feel as sick as she makes me?

 

[Moth]

Geezus, I love how the meeja are all clutching their pearls because a female MP said 'Fucking' in a off-the-cuff remark. Grow-up.

The swearing may have caught the attention but it's the suggestion that she has been doing 'a good job' while 'others sat on their arses' that is the meat of the story. Of course the 'others' to which she is referring is anyone other than the government for the last 13 years. Meanwhile Sunak is claiming to have never met the Chancellor who cut the DFE's bid to fund rebuilding of 200 schools per year down to 50.

Anyone of a certain age won't be surprised by this story. My kids were at school during the previous Tory administration when again schools were allowed to become dilapidated.
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How many Education secretary's have said the same thing over the years? Leave it for the next one.

To be honest I don't think the fundamental issue is Education Secretaries. They don't control the budget they are given. Of course if they want to keep their job (which after all is the main consideration) they'll go along with it whatever they really feel.

 

[Piff paff puff]

they choose how to express themselves sure, in the same way i pick out an outfit in the morning, but they don't choose to have gender dysphoria and be an 'other' to the point where people want then ostracised from society. why can a cis man have gender affirming care in the form of a hair transplant or viagra, a cis woman with a boob job or lip filler but trans people can't choose that exact same procedure for themselves?

From what I can see they are supported in an way that no group of people ever have been by society to such a degree that women's safety has been compromised. (Hospital wards, prisons, rape crisis centres).
And disregarding my personal view to any unnecessary invasive procedure the examples you gave there are minor compared to puberty blockers and amputation of healthy body parts, especially in young people who are being encouraged as a first solution and discouraged (and afaik illegal) to discuss not chemically and surgically changing themselves.

 

[Perspicacia Tick]

I actually think the more interesting thing about this is the furore surrounding the suspect being a West African migrant and the relative silence now it turns out he's a Portuguese citizen with settled status through the EU settlement scheme.

The heavy reporting on his victims vs the way other (just as important) victims of other backgrounds are reported on is depressing, but really not at all surprising. They tick a lot of the 'worthy' victim boxes that others don't. It's not fair and it shouldn't be the case but I've no idea how we can change it.

 

[knivesnflowers]

anyone read that leaked email re. george osbourne? wheeew

link here