c.sabatier
VIP Member
Thanks for the info on Europe vs. the EU with regard to that convention."What does the ECHR have to do with the European Union?
Nothing. The ECHR was launched by the Council of Europe. The Council of Europe is older than the European Union and not connected to it."
...What is the ECHR and why does it matter? - Liberty
www.libertyhumanrights.org.uk
I think patients have an expectation of privacy whilst in the hospital and a right not to be concerned or to potentially have their images or voice(s)/private conversations in adjacent areas or medical information on charts or scheduling boards potentially captured, videotaped and broadcast over the internet by others without their consent.
Why should other patients/staff/concerned visitors have to be worried about this at a time of deep crisis in their own lives? No one is being cared for in this ward for a hangnail.
As for video-taping rights in one's own area, this obviously divides opinions. What you say is correct and I do agree with it, but, also, what about Tiffany's rights to tape in her own area? When there is such a conflict, people need to resort to following the rules established by the hospital itself. If the rules permit video-taping in one's area as long as other people's images are not recorded, then Tiffany is in her full right to be doing what she does, even if people think otherwise and if other conversations are recorded. (People could also speak in more muted voices so as not to disturb others as well.) If one is in an establishment that permits video-taping in one's area, then one needs to be aware that conversations could be captured as well, and speak in muted voices or just not say anything that one wouldn't want recorded. Of course, people have other, more serious concerns in the hospital. However, rules are rules, and if recording is permitted during visiting hours, one is in one's right to be doing so.
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Your points are, of course, all valid. However, the nurses are all grown up, and could also kindly and politely have told Tiffany not to be filming at this or that time and/or place. If Tiffany's filming was so disruptive, it then should have been an obligation for the nurses to restore order, don't you think?Sorry but I don’t agree with you at all. Her filming on the ward with nurses and being followed with the camera was 1) stopping Tiffany actually getting on with it because she kept turning to talk to the person filming her and 2) it was causing more of a commotion than needed.
even when we are in our bay with the curtains closed we are very aware when stuff is going on outside the curtain. I really disagree with Tiffany’s behaviour at the moment and would not personally tolerate it.
remember patients in there are very unwell with a horrible disease and may not have the energy to speak up for themselves in these instances. Most patients have the understanding to not start talking on the phone when on a ward if I’m honest. I would never take a call on one, I think it’s unfair, there is enough noise going around without listening to someone’s chatter.
You are also completely correct when you say that patients may not have the energy to speak up, which is yet another reason why nurses who feel that filming is disruptive should be making sure all rules are being followed.
What you would do in such a situation is very noble, but, not everyone will act in the same way. That is why rules are established, and people do need to be following the rules while also being able to exercise their rights. If rules need to be changed because people are complaining, then rules should be changed following the proper channels to avoid arbitrary decisions by the staff.
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