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tbh, I am not certain as I now only view her social media or any comments made on her IG or YT via either a 2nd hand platform (whose links were provided here by a fellow TL member) which severely limits the comment section, or from posts copied here directly from elsewhere.

I can't say I'd describe her as "hiding", or that it's due to the reaction from her comment on Nat's IG, people have called her out for months on her own channel, as you know and, I think, on her SU2C video. She's doing exactly what she told us she was planning pre-surgery to do, take time off social media.
Yes, you’re right. She did mention about taking a break from social media, which I fully support. Of course she can choose what she wants to share, but keeping everything such a secret.. when she has said previously ‘I have decided I’m going to open up about everything because I know some of you are going through the same thing as I am or you know someone who is’ is just so strange/wrong to me.
 
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I don’t know why anyone still expects anything from Tiffany other than lack of transparency, trickery and disappointment.
 
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Yes, you’re right. She did mention about taking a break from social media, which I fully support. Of course she can choose what she wants to share, but keeping everything such a secret.. when she has said previously ‘I have decided I’m going to open up about everything because I know some of you are going through the same thing as I am or you know someone who is’ is just so strange/wrong to me.
But that was just words. When did she ever fully open up in the last year?
 
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yes but the tricky part is that she has already given some news, even more than expected initially, if she didn’t want to come back on social medias why the short videos, merry Christmas and happy new year ? She could have posted a blank post with written I am fine I am taking a break from social medias focusing on my recovery Happy Christmas Happy New Year sorry hope to be back soon… She did not do that at all … So why nothing now ? Every few hours someone is asking why no update for a week ? She was supposed to go home so she was supposed to be better but maybe she is back in hospital … People don’t understand … She never stated clearly that she will take time off social media, people understood that that « time off » was following surgery and then she said « longer than I expected maybe more than three or four weeks » but she came back home earlier people saw that she looked fine and are expecting now little updates or for some of them real news, even more now that the time is passing than a week or two after surgery … I mean isn’t it odd, she did short videos while in hospital but now that she is at home she doesn’t ? Maybe she is back in hospital, maybe her mental health is worse now that she is back home and off medications/morphine …? Maybe she is lost and doesn’t know what to do with her channel …? If she wants to take time off social medias she should say so more clearly because people didn’t understand what she said in the goodbye video, she was not clear and they are confused by the release of the short videos …
I agree with you. I understand why people want an update. Surely Christmas vlogmas are not typically intended as a lead up to a major surgery. Then virtually nothing afterwards except a graphic photo of someone whose clearly been through the ringer, signs of some improvement and an indication she's gone home. Then a random comment on Nat's channel, while ignoring her own subs or their comments with anything personal or an update.

Maybe she's communicated privately with those who sent cards and gifts, who knows.

Yes, you’re right. She did mention about taking a break from social media, which I fully support. Of course she can choose what she wants to share, but keeping everything such a secret.. when she has said previously ‘I have decided I’m going to open up about everything because I know some of you are going through the same thing as I am or you know someone who is’ is just so strange/wrong to me.
I agree. Despite her "I tell you guys everything", she actually divulges very little, and that's now even less, leaving her massive group of supporters feeling slightly left out and at least wanting to know how she is, an update on the little she HAS mentioned, if nothing more.

I don’t know why anyone still expects anything from Tiffany other than lack of transparency, trickery and disappointment.
She has explicitly stated clearly she does not want to talk about her cancer anymore, she wants her channel to be about other general topics. She's doing something like that, although still giving glimpses of her medical situation: walking down a hospital corridor with bags attached, heading home in an ambulance. She seems to be straddling both sides now, not quite ready to fully release that which got her the large audience, but still not revealing the details.

I no longer expect anything, but I also wasn't a fervent follower falling for her requests to send her personal "notes" of encouragement, either. I imagine those people feel more out on a limb in this very one-sided relationship with her. They feel entitled to more information on her status as they've been invested financially and emotionally. A generic "getting out of hospital early" probably doesn't suffice in terms of enough medical info for the praying masses or those who sent a card or gift, for them to feel it was worth it and appreciated.

Some may just be trolling and exclaiming false indignation for attention, I suspect some who claimed to have sent gifts aren't being genuine at all. Others may really feel justified in wanting more info as they included far flung prayer circles, so being shut out could feel quite curt. Others might have been listening selectively, not really believing she wanted to parlay this into an entertainment channel, especially when she continues to do these little generic health updates. Of course she wants to continue to increase her subscriber levels, I think she is afraid of a precipitous drop when she spends 10 minutes on a close-up of her coffee cup filling up and another 10 on watching Matt cook dinner while she giggles and nibbles. I think the backlash to her first strictly lifestyle video will be swift and harsh if the comments now are any indication.

And maybe that's why the break, she needs the vigilante commenters to get bored and move on before she makes a dramatic shift in her videos back into strictly clothing and food. Perhaps that's what she's hoping for. Of course, she could be back in the hospital struggling with sepsis, who knows.

Her resistance to describing her medical circumstance is very telling, though. I don't think she has any intention of going back into an online "diary" of her cancer journey or telling her subs anything more about it at all. This gap seems clear about that even if she has still shown medical images, she has not given any medical update beyond the most basic "doing better than expected so released early".

I truly hope no one continues to hold their breath waiting for more. Time to let it out and release it and move on. 🌬
 
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Yes you are told pretty much immediately. Of course some of the results might come later but obviously Tiffany knows most of it. She obviously knows what they did and what they found during the operation. She is choosing not to tell because she wants to give breadcrumb information to people to drag it out as long as possible. She could make one instagram post and be done with it but she is "saving" it for vlogs which bring her money. Instagram posts don't bring her money so she might not want to "waste" the money-making information on it.
I was told they got the cancer out with good margins both times, but had to wait 4 weeks for the results on biopsies and lymph nodes for my colon cancer ( was told by the specialist nurse ivervthe ohube it was good news) , and 6 weeks for my cervical cancer. In the case of my cervical cancer the surgeon knew sooner that cancer had been found in a lymph node, but she chose not to tell me until my 6 week surgical review as she said no treatment wouid be commenced earlier and I needed to recover from what was major surgery. She had already set up the meeting with the oncologist however and because of that I didn't have anyone with me, which was tough, but it did save me a second painful trip into London.

Hey Saydee
Happy New Year … hope you are well too and your husband is doing ok ❤

I understand what you are saying which is vastly different to how I interpreted it initially… sorry about that!
Yes I do agree with you regards just how much information is enough … which never seems enough!
There is certainly a line in the sand for what people want/expect and what could certainly be regarded as an invasion of privacy.
I would think the general public would be happy to know she is doing ok and an update along the lines of ‘thanks for the well wishes and love, I’m doing ok’ would definitely suffice until further down the post op track. It’s understandable Tiffany would need time and privacy to come to terms with various body changes and day to day body functions long before being able to update and discuss publicly.
I’m sure lots of the angst, confusion and disappointment lies with the thought process that Tiffany earned her ‘stripes’ (and money) so to speak, on the back of her vlogs being titled **cancer**, so many seem interested to know more about the **cancer** outcome, which I can appreciate and understand.
I guess there’s a line of thought that implies if you want privacy, why put your life up for the world to see? I do kind of agree but I also think T is so darn immature that her thought process never stops to think past $$$$$ … so now the real reality of **cancer** is sinking in, she may well have grown up somewhat and is reflecting on the gravity of what this all really means … and sadly, how money doesn’t really factor into prognosis and longevity.
Anyhoo … it’s nice to see you back here Saydee! ❤
Maybe some of the backlash is because she's implied she initially recovered very quickly from the surgery ( as we don't truly know the surgery date we can't be sure on this) and was sent home in half the time of one of the estimates she gave (4 weeks). 'your girl got this' - so expecting an early explanation of what happened.

I don't get the impression that she thinks thru the results of her statements and actions.
 
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I don't get the impression that she thinks thru the results of her statements and actions.
I believe that too. She is very immature and regularly says stuff without thinking, without thinking of the consequences. Like when she tells her followers that they are her family (very irresponsible and deceiving) or when she asked people for their opinion about whether she should have the surgery or not and when people gave her their honest views and a lot of medical advise, she took it back and said she does not want any medical talk and only wants "positive" comments. And all the other times when she said something nonsensical and bewildering about the cancer or results. She definitely does not prepare any of it, she just blurts out anything. And her vlogs are full of "empty" moments, when she is thinking supposedly but nothing intelligent ever comes out of her. On the other hand, Jessica and Brian Krock are well-prepared and know what is going on the moment they start their videos. I wish Tiffany would learn from them.
 
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But that was just words. When did she ever fully open up in the last year?
Sigh, yes.. while she says she shares so much with her YouTube family. And she also questioned if she was putting too much online 😬
 
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I think for Tiff not to be posting, things have to be pretty tough at the moment. There's a new reality for her to come to terms with both mentally and physically and life must look very, very different. She may have had news of further cancer left behind in her body and more treatment needed. It's big, frightening stuff and I am glad that she is focusing on dealing with it all rather than talking about air fryers.
I agree totally, it's a whole different kettle of fish coming to terms with huge changes to her physical body, and getting her head around it will be tough, not to mention she very likely has more to deal with which will be all on the table now. No hiding reality anymore. I suspect she is not in a good place right now, hope I'm wrong. Remember how original news of the surgery put her in bed for days at that time.
 
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I was told they got the cancer out with good margins both times, but had to wait 4 weeks for the results on biopsies and lymph nodes for my colon cancer ( was told by the specialist nurse ivervthe ohube it was good news) , and 6 weeks for my cervical cancer. In the case of my cervical cancer the surgeon knew sooner that cancer had been found in a lymph node, but she chose not to tell me until my 6 week surgical review as she said no treatment wouid be commenced earlier and I needed to recover from what was major surgery. She had already set up the meeting with the oncologist however and because of that I didn't have anyone with me, which was tough, but it did save me a second painful trip into London.


Maybe some of the backlash is because she's implied she initially recovered very quickly from the surgery ( as we don't truly know the surgery date we can't be sure on this) and was sent home in half the time of one of the estimates she gave (4 weeks). 'your girl got this' - so expecting an early explanation of what happened.

I don't get the impression that she thinks thru the results of her statements and actions.
That’s absolutely it Saydee … she never takes the time to think through the bigger picture of her statements and before she catches up on the previous fallout statement, she’s already blurted out the next !!!
Our Girl … HA !!!!
 
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That’s absolutely it Saydee … she never takes the time to think through the bigger picture of her statements and before she catches up on the previous fallout statement, she’s already blurted out the next !!!
Our Girl … HA !!!!
The overwhelming response to her question asking for opinions whether she should get the surgery months back certainly took her by surprise. I don't think she ever expected so many online medical professionals to have a contrary opinion to the decision she had made in concert with her doctor, that's for sure!
 
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I found a new vlogger Nicole Willis on YT, who, after testing found it was anal adenocarcinoma. She's lovely to listen to, explains things, even got 3rd opinions, advocates for herself etc. She only has about 260 subscribers. What did I find in her comments on her 2nd video? Fans recommending T's channel, praising her and talking to each other about how much they missed her and are so attached to her. :oops:It was all I could do not to tell this woman to stay far away from there or she'd be a confused mess :(
 
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I found a new vlogger Nicole Willis on YT, who, after testing found it was anal adenocarcinoma. She's lovely to listen to, explains things, even got 3rd opinions, advocates for herself etc. She only has about 260 subscribers. What did I find in her comments on her 2nd video? Fans recommending T's channel, praising her and talking to each other about how much they missed her and are so attached to her. :oops:It was all I could do not to tell this woman to stay far away from there or she'd be a confused mess :(
Oh good grief, I mentioned her here a few
days ago, I just checked, she has attracted a whole lot of weird 'You got this' commentors since then. Do they hunt in packs?!
 
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Oh good grief, I mentioned her here a few
days ago, I just checked, she has attracted a whole lot of weird 'You got this' commentors since then. Do they hunt in packs?!
Blimey, I actually Googled: "do foxes hunt in packs"?

Answer: no. :D

I do believe we have just identified a serious internal weakness in YT's algorithm, the same fanbase at TT will stumble upon like videos, as we do, too. Be brave, Tattlers, be very, very brave. :oops:
 
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Oh good grief, I mentioned her here a few
days ago, I just checked, she has attracted a whole lot of weird 'You got this' commentors since then. Do they hunt in packs?!
Yes, definitely a cult like attraction to blue hearts and that particular saying!
It actually makes me cringe since Tiffany trashed it.
‘I have cancer’ and ‘you got this’ don’t really travel well together when nobody has ever implied Tiffany is cancer free now …
I think saying ‘you got this’ is used out of context and while I understand what it implies regards overcoming the hurdle, I personally think it’s just a catch phrase that means diddly tit.
 
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I think saying ‘you got this’ is used out of context and while I understand what it implies regards overcoming the hurdle, I personally think it’s just a catch phrase that means diddly tit.
Totally agree. I liken it to how offensive I find it when people suggest they overcame cancer (or name your poison) through positive thinking since it automatically implies that those who succumb to it were not thinking positively enough. 'We got this' suggests the same capability of self determination over every and all health obstacles.

I agree that a little cheerleading when we face a scary hurdle helps to bolster our courage, but the "this" can be misconstrued to mean cancer in this circumstance.

This attitude is up there near the top of my most disliked doctrines. What a blow to the spirit to feel responsible for not getting better because you must not have been confident enough in your belief that you were in control. Placebo effect can only take a person so far in triggering the body to heal itself. It is so unfair to those who face unavoidable life circumstances and no one is immortal. "I can do this" is probably what is meant but is really not being conveyed. "We are in charge" comes across and that just seems wrong. I want to cry when I see young children with cancer; to ever throw it upon their tiny feet that "we got this" seems cruel.
 
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Totally agree. I liken it to how offensive I find it when people suggest they overcame cancer (or name your poison) through positive thinking since it automatically implies that those who succumb to it were not thinking positively enough. 'We got this' suggests the same capability of self determination over every and all health obstacles.

I agree that a little cheerleading when we face a scary hurdle helps to bolster our courage, but the "this" can be misconstrued to mean cancer in this circumstance.

This attitude is up there near the top of my most disliked doctrines. What a blow to the spirit to feel responsible for not getting better because you must not have been confident enough in your belief that you were in control. Placebo effect can only take a person so far in triggering the body to heal itself. It is so unfair to those who face unavoidable life circumstances and no one is immortal. "I can do this" is probably what is meant but is really not being conveyed. "We are in charge" comes across and that just seems wrong. I want to cry when I see young children with cancer; to ever throw it upon their tiny feet that "we got this" seems cruel.
Totally agree. You said it perfectly! ❤
 
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I found a new vlogger Nicole Willis on YT, who, after testing found it was anal adenocarcinoma. She's lovely to listen to, explains things, even got 3rd opinions, advocates for herself etc. She only has about 260 subscribers. What did I find in her comments on her 2nd video? Fans recommending T's channel, praising her and talking to each other about how much they missed her and are so attached to her. :oops:It was all I could do not to tell this woman to stay far away from there or she'd be a confused mess :(
I think I will check her out. Is the name of her channel Nicole Willis? I’ll subscribe to her, so her count will go up a little bit then. It’s a shame people were recommending and praising Tiffany’s channel!
 
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