So did I... i thought I'd clicked the wrong threadI first read that as Victoria Beckham!
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So did I... i thought I'd clicked the wrong threadI first read that as Victoria Beckham!
And Granny only gave him the time of day because he was the important one! Apparently, when it came to her grandchildren and great-grandchildren, she was only interested in the heirs to the throne, Charles and William.I think Anne, like you say has come out unscathed but I think it damaged Charles quite a lot, I got the impression that the Queen Mother was his primary Mother figure and of course he was unhappy at Gordonstoun which didn't suit him at all.
And yet Harry is her favourite by all accounts...And Granny only gave him the time of day because he was the important one! Apparently, when it came to her grandchildren and great-grandchildren, she was only interested in the heirs to the throne, Charles and William.
Strong personality? Yep. No nonsense? Yep.I got the impression she was very immature. Probably due to her closeted childhood. She was obsessed with Albert. The 40 years of mourning is ridiculous. Added to that the not being able to be a half decent mother to her children. Even in Victorian times there were ways of avoiding conception, yet her and Albert clearly didnt use them. I got the same impression slightly with Liz. She fell madly in live with Phil to the extentthat she dumped Charles and Anne at home and buggered off on tour and to Malta and allegedly showed them no affection. Anne was daddy's girl and has a far stronger personality so seems to have come out of it fairly unscathed. However neither of them gave their husbands what they wanted when it came to The Crown!
I was talking about the late Queen Mother and her fondness for Prince Charles not our present Queen and Harry,And yet Harry is her favourite by all accounts...
Strong personality? Yep. No nonsense? Yep.
But also pretty ruthless. Married two rather dim men who are easily dominated.
Bit like Camilla really![]()
Oops, sorry!I was talking about the late Queen Mother and her fondness for Prince Charles not our present Queen and Harry,
No probsOops, sorry!
Prince Albert wasn’t ‘rather dim’.And yet Harry is her favourite by all accounts...
Strong personality? Yep. No nonsense? Yep.
But also pretty ruthless. Married two rather dim men who are easily dominated.
Bit like Camilla really![]()
I think they mean Princess Anne’s husbandsPrince Albert wasn’t ‘rather dim’.
I meant Anne+ Mark, and Anne + Tim nice but dim, and Camilla + A P-B and Charles.Prince Albert wasn’t ‘rather dim’.
I think they mean Princess Anne’s husbands
also I’ve read Harry was the Queen Mother’s favourite and she left him a substantial sum of money in her will as he wouldn’t have the same entitlements of William. I haven’t read that she left much to the other grandchildren so it fits with the theory I guess![]()
Oops.I meant Anne+ Mark, and Anne + Tim nice but dim, and Camilla + A P-B and Charles.
No, she left a substantial amount to all her grandchildren in a trust, to avoid taxes. The trust was a gamble, as she was very old when it was closed and had she died lots of taxes would've had to be paid, but she lived and the trusts remained large.I think they mean Princess Anne’s husbands
also I’ve read Harry was the Queen Mother’s favourite and she left him a substantial sum of money in her will as he wouldn’t have the same entitlements of William. I haven’t read that she left much to the other grandchildren so it fits with the theory I guess![]()
yes I’d read that rationale about William receiving more due to lineage etc, thanks for other infoNo, she left a substantial amount to all her grandchildren in a trust, to avoid taxes. The trust was a gamble, as she was very old when it was closed and had she died lots of taxes would've had to be paid, but she lived and the trusts remained large.
Yes, Harry inherited more money than William, but William will become stupid rich once he becomes the duke of Cornwall and later king. William has received more money than Harry at least since he married (his needs are greater, so of course it also makes sense, but there's just always more money going into Will's pockets than Harry's).
When Ed abdicated, he received a very generous "pension" and lump sum, he pretty much got all the money he asked for, because George wasn't aware just how much money Ed amassed during his very short reign, it's still that lucrative. George was furious as he later realized he "over-paid".
I think others left Harry also more than Will, but am not 100% certain, so won't claim that to be true.
Mine too! Apart from at the start - it’s not that bitchy either! So don’t have to skim through Awful comments like some other threads! I’ve learned loads From this and is more rumours instead of name calling !This thread is one of my favourites.
I agree!! I'm not a royalist by any means but God damn, if the whole thing isn't fascinating!!This thread is one of my favourites.
That's exactly the way I am, the total opposite of a monarchist, but bloody heck are they interesting! History and current, gossip and facts (and not just the British RF, but others too!)! You start reading up on something and just get lost in the juggernaut!!I agree!! I'm not a royalist by any means but God damn, if the whole thing isn't fascinating!!
Exactly!Mine too! Apart from at the start - it’s not that bitchy either! So don’t have to skim through Awful comments like some other threads! I’ve learned loads From this and is more rumours instead of name calling !
Keep it coming!
Think they were talking about Princess AnnePrince Albert wasn’t ‘rather dim’.
Same with me! I dont agree at all with the principle of the monarchy but the history is fascinating! I have been enthusiastically 'helping' with history home school, so I've been learning about Alfred the Great, Mary I and Liz I. I've had a whale of a time debating whether Mary was bad or misunderstoodThat's exactly the way I am, the total opposite of a monarchist, but bloody heck are they interesting! History and current, gossip and facts (and not just the British RF, but others too!)! You start reading up on something and just get lost in the juggernaut!!
I always have to be careful to let on how much I know (in real life), lest someone thinks I'm a royalist or nuts or don't have anything better to do....
Exactly!![]()