Indeed … but I think it’s kind of reached that tipping point now. I think the period of grace will end with the coronation when there will have to be more Than just tinkering around the edges.
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Nor do taxpayers fund the royals other than for security, the profits of the Crown Estate funds the buildings they live in and with the profits of the Duchies of Lancaster and Cornwall the work and travel working royals do
You keep saying this, and it’s technically accurate, but it totally ignores historical context, which is that they made their fortunes by using the labour of others. They are multi-generational beneficiaries of the work of others, of their own citizens, who even now are not allowed to buy the land they tend. They benefit from centuries of taxation laws that excluded them, of killing people to confiscate property, and by petitioning parliament to excuse them from environmental and employment laws. Ignoring this context is just pretending that they’re basically self-sufficient, which is laughably untrue.
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Agreed. The mental gymnastics are quite something to behold
But there are many other countries where the elected Head of State doesn't get a big expensive inauguration at all. It's disingenuous to claim that that's the only alternative
Kate does have a rave thread but it only has about 4 posts on it. But feel free to start a chat and get it going if you like!
No it is just your socialist agenda. The Crown Estate is effectively state owned anyway. If you want to abolish all inherited wealth under your socialist agenda just say so in the open!
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Virtually every President has an inauguration. Funded by taxpayers.
Presidents are either nonentity ex politicians with no more power than our King who most of the world haven't heard of. Or they are divisive elected powerful party political Presidents who half the country hates like the US or France
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Hahahaha calling it a “socialist agenda”, come on. It’s not either/or. Most democratic socialist nations have monarchies! I’m not even against constitutional monarchies, they often work well. But don’t be deluded about how the BRF grew their wealth and how they still maintain it. They didn’t earn it.
Here’s my socialist agenda: Workers deserve to be able to own their own land and share in the profits of their work so they can have their own inherited wealth to pass on. I’m not against inherited wealth, I’m just against it being concentrated in the hands of the few. I think it leads to corruption, as shown with Charles’s shady Saudi dealings and Prince Michael’s weird Russian oligarch links. Will be interesting to see what happens with that stuff over the next couple of years. IMO a lot of the Harry/Meghan circus is pushed by certain media as a distracting sideshow to all that.
The Italian President of the Republic doesn't get an inauguration ceremony and his role is basically equal to that of the British monarch. Just because you only know about the French and American presidents doesn't mean the world ends there
True. But the same is true for basically every hyper rich family or company. Heck, our quite comfortably lives are built on our ancestors exploiting others or at the very least massively benefiting from the countries we live in doing so. In the past and in the present. So, as long as there aren’t bigger actions planned harping on about the BRF is basically making them a pawn sacrifice. Getting rid of them or cutting their financials will have no effect whatsoever (especially as you legally can’t just continue taking the 77p/head/year and put the money somewhere else. You’d have to stop it and create a new tax).
Oh, believe me, I think every mega rich person and company should be taxed more. Especially billionaires. The current wealth disparity disgusts me. But that’s a whole other topic and definitely off topic on a RF thread.
I don’t think the UK will become a republic anytime soon (although other countries may!) But the idea that it’s this or an enormous presidential inauguration every 4 years is just nonsense.
In fact I'm pretty sure the countries that have giant inaugurations comparable to a British coronation are the exception, not the rule
Wrong. The Italian President has an inauguration complete with gun salute, cavalry escort and flypast paid for by Italian taxpayers
Italy's President Mattarella to be sworn in for second term
Italy's newly re-elected president Sergio Mattarella will be sworn in for a second 7-year term during a pomp-filled ceremony in Rome on Thursday 3 February.
Lol, okay, you think you know more about it than someone born and living in Italy like me? Swearing an oath in front of Parliament and being escorted to the Quirinale is in no way comparable to the kind of ceremony that American presidents or monarchs get. You're just being willfully ignorant right now and it's kind of embarrassing for youWrong. The Italian President has an inauguration complete with gun salute, cavalry escort and flypast paid for by Italian taxpayers
Italy's President Mattarella to be sworn in for second term
Italy's newly re-elected president Sergio Mattarella will be sworn in for a second 7-year term during a pomp-filled ceremony in Rome on Thursday 3 February.www.wantedinrome.com
It is possible to quite like the idea of a monarchy with the history and pomp and also think that some of the current incumbents are a load of twonks and that the institution needs an overhaul but not extermination.
I know off topic somewhat but it is shocking. The disparity of the rich and poor is much worse than I thought and it is getting more pronounced.
I've been thinking about this ever since I read it:
"The richest 1 percent grabbed nearly two-thirds of all new wealth worth $42 trillion created since 2020, almost twice as much money as the bottom 99 percent of the world’s population, reveals a new Oxfam report today. During the past decade, the richest 1 percent had captured around half of all new wealth."
Sure, but every other rich family’s privilege and wealth is not based on the idea that God said they deserved it.
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Those gun salutes man, cost a fortune. Just about as much as a 37 million GBP wedding I hearWrong. The Italian President has an inauguration complete with gun salute, cavalry escort and flypast paid for by Italian taxpayers
Italy's President Mattarella to be sworn in for second term
Italy's newly re-elected president Sergio Mattarella will be sworn in for a second 7-year term during a pomp-filled ceremony in Rome on Thursday 3 February.
It is a Presidential inauguration and swearing in with full cavalry escort, flypast, ceremonies etc. All paid for by Italian taxpayers. You were wrong I am afraid as I showed you
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The richest 1 percent also paid most of the extra taxes too
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Royal weddings apart from security are paid for by the Royal family themselves. They also raise far more in tourism revenue than Italian Presidents inaugurations doSure, but every other rich family’s privilege and wealth is not based on the idea that God said they deserved it.
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Those gun salutes man, cost a fortune. Just about as much as a 37 million GBP wedding I hear
Repeating what you already said doesn't make you more right than before
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