Camilla is Queen Consort now so has an extra ring of protection. Sophie isn’t really high profile enough and seems genuinely liked. Kate is probably safe. It’s probably going to quieten down until George hits the marriage market when if they are lucky there will be the partner of Louis to pit them against and the whole cycle starts Again (Charlotte’s should be safe. male incomers have a far easier time of it).
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I mean, Harry has a point about the press on this one. We all know that's what they do, and what those children are in for at their hands, and we know nothing will be done about it, because its the price they are willing to pay for their continued existence. Charlotte will have the same treatment as the York girls and Princess Anne when she was young- clothes, attitude, figure etc.
Harry could have been respected for renouncing his titles and refusing titles for his children and concentrating on charitable work with Invictus and Sentebale, probably still have had a free house like his cousins, but instead he's moaning about not being able to have the privileges of Royalty without having to pay any price at all.
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That’s where he had such an open goal … but he hit it over the smaller bedroom griping crossbar. We know already that the media have set their characters based on nothing at all … George is the quiet, shy, conscientious one, Charlotte is the protective feisty one and Louis is the jokey mischievous one. This is them for the next decade or so now at leas.
He’s talking about Margaret and Andrew - Anne isn’t really a spare even though she was born second because of primogeniture. She hasn’t been a spare since Andrew was born, which I think was probably quite freeing for her in a way.
Yes, the press are okay with the kids now, but wait til they’re teenagers. Speculation on bodies, partners, everything. I haven’t finished Harry’s book but he has plenty of examples of outright lies printed about him, especially as a kid, and was clear about how that messed with him. He was stalked everywhere he went by paps, and there’s really no reason for it. They didn’t expose anything themselves. The two major stories that were true (Nazi costume and Vegas) weren’t even pap pics, they were leaked to the press by partygoers.
Harry has good reason to hate the press, it’s not responsible journalism to stalk anyone like that - what good does it do? Driving away any remotely decent partner? No decent person wants to put up with this stuff. Some things have gotten better after News of the World vanished, but the poor young royal kids will have a host of new challenges involving social media. I already feel for them.
To me there’s a huge difference between the regular press and the tabloid press. A free press is vital, but the Murdoch monopoly really damages that.
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I think you posted that in the wrong thread, how embarrassing for you!
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I think that Harry is so desperate to make his mark on the world stage and history that he isn't safe to be near either William or his children.
What a ridiculous (and slanderous) post.
I haven’t read Harry’s book and am interested what’s his biggest gripe? The press, his upbringing, being royal, not being royal and important enough?. Genuinely interested as surely he can’t be just complaining, surely there’s positivity in the book.
‘Prince Andrew having apparently reached an understanding with the King enabling him to pursue some business interests, now wants his HRH title back. He was ordered by the late Queen not to use it when he was stripped of his remaining royal patronages last year. He acknowledges he won't return to royal duties or be restored to any patronages, Andrew remains a Royal Knight of the Garter and a Knight Grand Cross of the Royal Victorian Order. He is said to be perplexed as to why he cannot again use the HRH title especially as he maintains that he has done nothing wrong. His trump card with mother was invariably: 'Innocent until proven guilty.' A source says Charles is resisting stirring up trouble by formally announcing any change in Andrew's status. 'It is more likely,' whispers my mole, 'that he will just start using it again in a low-key way to test the waters – should he get the King's consent.'
Why won’t this creep just disappear. He’s the worst thing about the Royal Family.
Why won’t this creep just disappear. He’s the worst thing about the Royal Family.
Charles needs to grow some balls and strip Andrew of all titles. Make it clear this type of behaviour is NOT tolerated or acceptable even if you’re born with blue blood. Then he can posthumously strip Jimmy Saville and any other paedophiles/sex offenders who have recieved honours of their knighthood/MBE/OBE/CBE if it hasn’t been removed BG the late Queen. He should’ve done it weeks ago, not waited for the coronation of indeed he is. He needs to make a big statement and doing this will certainly help his reputation.
Can you strip dead people of titles? I thought the title ‘died’ when they did?
I do agree though, but he won’t do it.
I'm still wondering if we'll see announcements on narrowing the royal family post-coronation, or if Charles will rely on natural attrition.
I think the easiest method would be to formalise rules in line with what appears to be happening for this generation by simple comedy of errors - restrict HRH titles to the children of the heir going forward. It would allow the necessary streamlining without the hurt feelings of stripping titles risking more bloody TV shows and books.
I think the easiest method would be to formalise rules in line with what appears to be happening for this generation by simple comedy of errors - restrict HRH titles to the children of the heir going forward. It would allow the necessary streamlining without the hurt feelings of stripping titles risking more bloody TV shows and books.
There’s lots of positive stories in it - at least in the first two parts, which are the parts I’ve read so far.
His biggest beef is definitely with the gutter press and paparazzi. He’s also clearly frustrated with the relationship between the RF and the tabloids.
Aww bless! I love a well thought out reply
Why is the HRH so important to them all? Are there benefits associated with it or do they just kind being called your royal highness?
This is Tattle. If you think that's bad you'd have a fit if you looked on some of the influencer/secret celeb gossip threads.
Also, libel, not slander.
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I have, and I tend to avoid them. That post was a particularly low blow for this thread. Libel/slander is debatable, online can count as spoken, not written.
Access to the Sovereign Grant would be a big one, I imagine.
I think that for Andrew, HRH status will be more important now than before the Queen died. Other than status, which I think is vitally important to most of them, particularly the "spares," there are certain considerations attached - security funded by the monarch, and that salary of working royals.
Andrew could rely on his mother to continue looking after him in a way that his brother may not, so the HRH styling would keep some of the perks Mummy will have ensured he maintained.
He’ll get a salary and access to royal protection.
He hasn’t been stripped of his HRH if I recall, only told not to use it? So does that mean he still gets money/protection?
You’re also meant to bow/curtsy when an HRH approaches which I think is what Andrew wants.
No way on earth should he be able to use his HRH or get money from the Sovereign Grant. When he was a ' working' Royal', he was dreadful, boring, boorish and imperious. He siphoned money off for himself from the public purse all the time. Who on Earth is going to want him opening their hospital? If he had acted as a witness against Maxwell or cooperated with the FBI, or taken his court case to the end and defended himself, then maybe, although he is still he far the worst member of the family and has horrific judgment. He needs to go away permanently.
I don't think relying on natural attrition will work. William has 3 kids. They need to know what will happen with their children well before they marry. It needs to he formalised by Charles, so that going forward the family is streamlined. Not just for one generation.
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