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WatermelonSugar22

Cool @TYL159, call us when William becomes a regular churchgoer.

ANYWAY let’s move on!

The Telegraph is saying that Harry & Meghan will get invites to the coronation. Apparently a source said “all family are welcome”. Do you think they’ll go? I honestly don’t know.
 
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Boring Monday

WatermelonSugar22 said:
Why would anyone ask anyone that question? It’s not an either/or thing, there are other religions in the world.
Honestly, this is a weird and xenophobic take, it’s nothing to do with the royal family, so just let it go, yeah?
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Well, almost 200,000 put their religion as Jedi on the census so … probably a pinch of salt is needed for many answers.
 
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thegirlscout

I reckon Harry might, not sure about Meghan.
 

50sGirl

Haven’t we been here before? Perhaps there should be a separate thread started in Off Topic so those interested could agree/disagree to their hearts content.
 
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Sunlifeover50

I can’t help but feel that TQ dying caused a few edits of the documentary and possibly the book in charles favour. I think if it was just this Netflix series then yes they’d both be at the coronation. If the book isn’t edited to the same degree then anything could happen.

I do think Charles loves him deeply and would prefer to make amends and calm everything down. I think deep down Harry feels the same. I’m not sure if the damage has been done with the public though.
 
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TYL159

Well 98% of Daily Mail readers want to strip Harry and Meghan of their royal titles, not much of a surprise

Charles extends olive branch to Sussexes pledging invite to Coronation

King Charles has extended an olive branch to Harry and Meghan as he pledged they will be invited to his Coronation, despite the fallout from their explosive Netflix documentary.
www.dailymail.co.uk
 
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Emsie

See @TYL159 98% is most. 48% is a little under half.
Sorry I'm gonna move it forward now as that was the most bizarre couple of posts I've ever read
I've watched the last episodes now. I actually don't think it's been that bad certainly not damaging to the family. I'm felt a bit sad when David olusoga () was talking about the common wealth and what an asset Meghan would have been to the royal family because it was true. Her and Harry could have really modernised it in a way that William and Kate can't. All in all I think it's all very sad.
 
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hannah123

thegirlscout said:
I reckon Harry might, not sure about Meghan.
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I read something, don’t know how true it is, that because Harry is a royal duke he would have to kneel to the King at the coronation. Might be something for Harry to consider before he RSVPs
 
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Popcorn&Peanuts

Princess of Wales' uncle hits back at Harry and Meghan

Gary Goldsmith (pictured) is feeling a little shell-shocked after watching the Duke and Duchess of Sussex drop their final 'truth bombs' about the 'dirty game' of royal life, courtesy of Netflix.
www.dailymail.co.uk

They always find a way to respond even though their supporters pretend they are voiceless.

From the article:
"Kate was a commoner, so certainly didn't fit the royal mould. Her maternal grandfather, my father, was a painter and decorator and her grandmother was an accounts clerk, and what they gave her was a huge work ethic.'

Give me strength
 
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Jen667

H & M would look like the most almighty hypocrites if they did go the Coronation.
The family is awful. They bulled us, they planted stories about us, William is a racist, Catherine is a bitch, Charles is a liar....yeah, we'd love to come thanks.
 
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sephylily

I think they’ll go. They went to the jubilee so I feel like they will still turn up to events they have been invited to.
 
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Libbylulu

Much of what KC does isn’t reported or public. During the mourning period of the Queen, many people from all walks of life gave insights of what he’d done to help individuals personally, charities and organisations. These acts of kindness have gone back years and wouldn’t be known unless these various members of the public came forward with snippets of stories.
I also watched a documentary about him with people from different faiths who said he regularly attends homes or communities to get a better sense of intergration, inclusion and projects to strengthen these. Many from the Muslim community said he has championed them more than any other celebrity or politician and were felt they are counted and recognised. If I remember correctly that documentary is on Netflix about all royals and gives lots of royal history too. Worth a watch.
 
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Mrs Fluff

TYL159 said:
So he will still have the title 'Defender of the Faith' then
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What I thought was he would a defender 'of faiths' Christ only ten years ago Catholics (and only Catholics) were off limits. Peter Phillips now ex wife had to renounce her Catholicism despite him not being within an assess' roar of the Throne
 
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thegirlscout

David has such a soothing voice! What he said was really interesting, I’m glad he was part of the documentary.
 
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Blurp

Well, I doubt very much that Scottish monarchs gave much of a shit about the CofE, frankly. After the Union of the Crowns, James VI & I and Charles I only liked it because it was weedy enough to give in to their ideas about the divine right of kings.

The Scots have always been stroppier about their religion, whether it's hurling stools at pulpits, fighting civil wars and uprisings about religion, and willing to die for Presbyterianism in the case of the Covenanters. They made Charles II swear an oath to uphold it at his coronation at Scone and even now the monarch has to sign an agreement to uphold the Church of Scotland, despite it not being an established church. The stroppiness of the CofS extends to its governing body, the General Assembly, which didn't hesitate to lay into UK politicians in lieu of a Scottish Parliament. It's also quite forward thinking too, having had women ministers for years before the CofE, most being quite happy with gay ministers and equal marriage, and seeing no problem with divorce, hence Anne and Tim getting married at Crathie Kirk unlike Charles and Camilla who could only get a blessing of their civil marriage.

Apart from various Northern Irish descended bigoted lunatics, no one really gives much about of a shit either about a multitude of religions and churches. Eh, you do you, pal; it's between you and your god, the basis of our version of Calvinism and the reason for the insistence on education. You can have a legal pagan handfasting too as well as celebrating many other religions.

I really can't think of why Charles shouldn't change the coronation oath; it's not as though many people are actively Christian, let alone a majority of the population.
 
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LoopyLou47

'Christian' also includes Catholic ( a huge number of whom are Polish, South American, Portuguese and Indian, if the congregation when I take my mother to church is anything to go by) and huge numbers of evangelical, Baptist etc churches. They also inflate hugely the numbers of churchgoers. Charles defending the C of E, where I suspect most of the cultural Christians who haven't been anywhere near a church doesn't mean much. The King has as much to do with the Catholic Church as he does to Judaism (If you exclude his family murdering so many of them in the past, that is)
 
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LoopyLou47

Just watching the last episode of the Meghan and Harry doc. I do feel bad for them re the press intrusion. It looks horrendous having 24 hour helicopters, drones and people following you around and trying to break into your house. I mean obviously some of it is self serving and ridiculous and that is what is picked up by the the press. The Beyonce message was cringe and should have been left on the cutting room floor and has distracted from the more serious issues of why the press is basically harassing them to this extent. It was very stupid to compare their private jet to a 'freedom flight' as if they were fleeing a war zone. But you can only live your own life, otherwise no one can moan about anything. But the press obsession with them is driving all this. The press ( and the Mail who is feeding this) just need to stop talking about them. Let them do what they are doing on their own terms without the press publicising their every move and uttering on their site. If I wanted to listen to Meghans Spotify I'd have paid for it. I didn't, but I know what was in it and who was interviewed. They are so easy to avoid if it was just them, but they are on the front page of every paper. Of course it will not stop, because too many people love to hate them. The Meghan and Harry thread on here is nearly 300 threads long, compared to 100 for all of showbiz and 30 for the rest of the RF.
 
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coconochanel

I'm in no way a Meghan fan but what makes me uncomfortable is when people say (there was a guy in a video on the H&M thread) Meghan hasn't experience racism because she is white. INCORRECT...
A. she is not white she is light skinned mixed race, if you stand her next to Helen Mirren you will see she is not 'white'
B. Are you saying mixed raced people cant experience racism? again INCORRECT maybe not as bad as a dark POC but they can still experience racism. In fact her son Archie (who is also mixed raced) experienced it when Danny Baker posted a picture of a monkey up!

So stop with this bullshit!
 
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Emsie


As a mixed race woman myself who could probably pass for white I can't stand it when people say "I didn't know you were black, you look white" as if white is the standard we should be aiming for.
She definitely experienced racism there is no two ways about it.
 
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