I’m fine with a queen 4th plinth, especially if she’s on a horse, as long as there’s an excellently done statue of this somewhere else
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I don't trust the public to vote on anything #BoatyMcBoatFace - they'd vote for something with Paddington that looks like it's from an etsy seller. No!
I wouldn't mind a side saddle horse statue on the 4th plinth (as they've been saying for the last 10 years), just do it in the same style as the others around there and don't use the artist that got Diana and Clare Balding mixed up
I’ll never be able to unsee Clare Balding now 
I think it’s art in modern times really - there was a statue of Wales’ first black headmistress and they basically came up with a massive floating head!
I wonder if the commonwealth will remain or stop. What do you guys think?
Hopefully His Maj will put any statue shenanigans in the hands of his long-time architectural adviser and friend, Quinlan Terry. The man won't tolerate anything that isn't classical and beautiful and has exquisite taste. He's older than God but still working last I heard.
I was interested to note, in the 2008 Guardian piece on Camilla's golliwog doll keychain, the range of motion on the response of black Britons.
The one which said Camilla has no power or influence strikes me as the parallel of the argument made here that Markle has no power or influence. You could call it the we-are-already-a-republic argument.
Has Camilla caused offence? "She hasn't caused any offence to me," says the black writer and broadcaster Darcus Howe. "I may have giggled a bit about what a stupid thing to do but I can't think in my wildest dreams that a golly worn by a woman without any power or influence could get a response."
Patrick Barkham: Golly! What has Camilla got in her bag?
Patrick Barkham: Burberry bags don't usually come with a golliwog keyring. But there it was, the smiling racist totem, among the belongings of Camilla, Duchess of Cornwall, at the Hampton Court flower show
www.theguardian.com
Those who argue Markle's allegations of racism did hurt the Jamaican people are politicians or lawyers already active in republican politics. I have been unable to find any political polls of Jamaicans' changed attitudes toward becoming a republic related to Markle's remarks. Which, it would seem to me, would be the more bona fide measure of the power and influence of Markle's comments on the racism of the RF.
Charles and William's recent references, in speeches elsewhere, to the "appalling" history of slave trade reportedly began in November 2018, in Ghana, whereas the H and M Oprah interview, in which Markle accused the RF of racism, was March, 2021.
Prince Charles says Britain's role in slave trade was an atrocity
Heir to throne is in Ghana, from where many Africans were shipped on UK boats
www.theguardian.com
Isn't it possible William and Kate's Caribbean tour was inspired by Meghan's accusation? And Charles' initial remarks in Ghana due to Meghan's influence?
The royals gain gravitas doing royal tours, which seems mainly to be their function, even if they're often seen as political campaigns against republicanism. Recalling the Queen's penitent visit to Amritsar, barefoot in her astonishing Buddha yellow dress, I think the moral authority which is the real power the royals still have, can be increased with these anti-slavery remarks. The Queen's laying a wreath at Amritsar and shaking hands with Martin McGuiness are again powerful mind- and game- changers, in my view. Markle is aiming directly at spoiling this power -- and the PM of Jamaica, for one, did not hesitate to lecture the then Cambridges given half a chance.
This, Markle did. Arguably she can keep doing it until Scotland and the rest of the UK also reject the monarchy. The Cut interview was a direct threat.
That Charles only began speaking (perhaps penitential short of paying out reparation) of the atrocity of slavery after the entry of the mixed race princess into the family seems significant to me.
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It was but alas, they moved it to 8pm and hour long episodes a little while ago.
no no no I agree!!I think it will fade slowly into the ether
Re Commonwealth. As a British person I never think about it. I feel no affinity to it. I am indifferent to it fading away. Anyone else feel strongly that there should be a commonwealth?
What other possible trade agreement has the UK got?
I’ve lived in 3 commonwealth countries that have gained independence but still maintain links with the UK. It will be interesting what the next generation make it of the UK ties.
This is the info I have missing. When Meghan joined the Royal Family, I dont really remember it and don't recall news or headlines because I had a lot going on at the time so wasn't really focusing on it. I did watch the wedding.
What I never really understood was how Meghan acted so shocked about the Royal family were and I sort of think, well how did you not know what to expect from Royal life?! Did Harry not say how life would be?!
Definitely going to have a read of Harry's book when it's out
The Queen Mother’s favourite program was Midsomer Murders which she apparently used to watch with Princess Margaret. She also loved listening to The Archers.
Popbitch recently said that The Queen loved The Kumars at Number 42.
Princess Diana was a soap fan and used to get the BBC to send her tapes of Neighbours.
Popbitch recently said that The Queen loved The Kumars at Number 42.
Princess Diana was a soap fan and used to get the BBC to send her tapes of Neighbours.
Harry's book will be something like
Ch 1: Mummy
Ch 2: Mummy Died AND I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO EXPERIENCED SUCH TRAUMA also I Hate Pops and Camilla
Ch 3: Kate's a witch and William's an Asshole
Ch 4: Meghan Saved Me and Reminded Me I'm not Racist Though I've Never Apologised For Calling People Slurs and Mocking POC
Ch 5: I Played Video Games In Afghanistan BUT I'M A HERO
Ch 6: Pops Left Me Broke THAT PRICK
Ch 7: Somebody Help I Need A Plumber In Montecito
Ch 8: Granddad And Grannie Were Racist And Mean To Me Too
Ch 9: Where's My Inheritance?
Ch 10: I Should Be King
Ch 1: Mummy
Ch 2: Mummy Died AND I'M THE ONLY ONE WHO EXPERIENCED SUCH TRAUMA also I Hate Pops and Camilla
Ch 3: Kate's a witch and William's an Asshole
Ch 4: Meghan Saved Me and Reminded Me I'm not Racist Though I've Never Apologised For Calling People Slurs and Mocking POC
Ch 5: I Played Video Games In Afghanistan BUT I'M A HERO
Ch 6: Pops Left Me Broke THAT PRICK
Ch 7: Somebody Help I Need A Plumber In Montecito
Ch 8: Granddad And Grannie Were Racist And Mean To Me Too
Ch 9: Where's My Inheritance?
Ch 10: I Should Be King
Well we know CZJ likes an older rich man
I wouldnt mind the rich bit....
A distant cousin here. Sorry if someone already posted
No point going old without the rich bit!I wouldnt mind the rich bit....
If that was the case, did they not think dressing up as the Queen and Prince Philip from 1954 and waving to the natives was not a good look? I know they were asked to do it but they could have politely declined, and I doubt they told them to dress up like that, unless it was to deliberately embarrass them.
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