HaloGirl
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There was no way H and M could or should return. They have both behaved in a completely disrespectful way to the Queen.
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DCICassieStuart
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I reckon he's been dead for ages and they just decided not to mention it.
DCICassieStuart
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I'd have given Anne a voucher for a new hairdresser. She's been wearing that cottage loaf on top of her head for about 40 years now.
Isa_Drennan
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My brother was a couple of years above Harry at Sandringham and also served in Afghanistan. He paints a very different picture of Harry’s army career than your relative. According to him he was in no way treated like any other officer nor did he act like one. Aside from the team of SAS trained officers assigned to shadow and protect him at all times, he was cosseted and fawned over and promoted far and above his capabilities. He had privileges and access to facilities that no officer of his rank did and he made full use of the privilege. It could be advantageous for other soldiers to hang around with Harry as they benefited from being his pal. I can’t repeat how my brother describes the “hangers on” as I would likely be kicked off tattle. Harry was known to have an inconsistent work ethic. He could be very hard working when he wanted to be but could also be incredibly lazy. He was said to lack focus and often gave up when things became challenging for him. This type of behaviour isn’t typical in the army as officers don’t get to pick and choose when they put in the graft.
The British press can be total c*nts but they are not the reason Harry had to return from Afghanistan. They had actually stuck to their agreement to keep his location secret. His location was outed by a US website and the army immediately shipped home. This had already happened before it was reported in the British newspapers.
Harry’s image needed rehabilitating and the government and army needed some positive spin for the very unpopular war in Iraq. It was a wonderful piece of PR that clearly worked.
My brother was a couple of years above Harry at Sandringham and also served in Afghanistan. He paints a very different picture of Harry’s army career than your relative. According to him he was in no way treated like any other officer nor did he act like one. Aside from the team of SAS trained officers assigned to shadow and protect him at all times, he was cosseted and fawned over and promoted far and above his capabilities. He had privileges and access to facilities that no officer of his rank did and he made full use of the privilege. It could be advantageous for other soldiers to hang around with Harry as they benefited from being his pal. I can’t repeat how my brother describes the “hangers on” as I would likely be kicked off tattle. Harry was known to have an inconsistent work ethic. He could be very hard working when he wanted to be but could also be incredibly lazy. He was said to lack focus and often gave up when things became challenging for him. This type of behaviour isn’t typical in the army as officers don’t get to pick and choose when they put in the graft.
The British press can be total c*nts but they are not the reason Harry had to return from Afghanistan. They had actually stuck to their agreement to keep his location secret. His location was outed by a US website and the army immediately shipped home. This had already happened before it was reported in the British newspapers.
Glaschelle
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I think its been said many times but I think that meghan though being a princess meant travelling around in golden coaches with everybody hanging off her every word. She didn't the realise that the job is boring as hell - having to open a sewerage plant in the middle of nowhere on a wet Wednesday afternoon. Plus there's also the issue of protocol. She would always need to walk behind the Queen and Phillip, Charles and Camilla, William and Kate and I dont think that sat well with her.
There's footage where the RF are together at an engagement. The Queen stops to look at medals - Charles, Camilla, William and Kate all stop and follow the Queen. Harry and Megan stride on past them and try to make their entrance to the venue they're all going to. The flunkeys stop them and they have to stand and wait for the rest of the family. Harry knows the protocol - I suspect Meghan knew it as well but wanted to make the grand entrance.
But to me there's an irony that Harry has been the spare and played second fiddle to William all his life. Now he's playing second fiddle to his actress wife. Frying pan - fire!!!
There's footage where the RF are together at an engagement. The Queen stops to look at medals - Charles, Camilla, William and Kate all stop and follow the Queen. Harry and Megan stride on past them and try to make their entrance to the venue they're all going to. The flunkeys stop them and they have to stand and wait for the rest of the family. Harry knows the protocol - I suspect Meghan knew it as well but wanted to make the grand entrance.
But to me there's an irony that Harry has been the spare and played second fiddle to William all his life. Now he's playing second fiddle to his actress wife. Frying pan - fire!!!
Miss Apprehension
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Readread
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Not really a surprise to anyone.
They feel hard done by in the RF. I'm so bored of hearing about those two. They want to be celebs in LA, I really don't know how anyone can buy into them wanting privacy and how they've been let down bla bla bla - she's doing an Oprah interview and he was on an open top tour bus with James bloody Cordon! Cya! Don't let the door hit them on the way out!
They feel hard done by in the RF. I'm so bored of hearing about those two. They want to be celebs in LA, I really don't know how anyone can buy into them wanting privacy and how they've been let down bla bla bla - she's doing an Oprah interview and he was on an open top tour bus with James bloody Cordon! Cya! Don't let the door hit them on the way out!
Curlygirl28
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I wouldnt be surprised if it was Harry’s choice to leave. He’s been unhappy with the press for years, way before Meghan. Also if she was the desperate social climber that people say, wouldnt she want to stay in the UK and be a Royal and all that comes with it? I’m not saying I think she’s faultless and they are clearly getting some questionable PR advice but the hate she/they are getting is ridiculously over the top
Superdude
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I don't see any evidence a "high society class" has any better 'morals' than anyone else. Quite the opposite in fact. Nazism, affairs, intolerance, unkindness to family members, deceiving the public, treating staff badly, being above the law, hustling for money, misuse of public assets, the list goes on.
I look up to people who achieve something. Scientists. Academics. Sportspeople. Authors. Musicians. It's irrelevant what family they were born into, but important what they do with their lives, how they behave and how they have benefitted others. There's no reason for me to look up to William and Kate. Or Andrew. Or his daughters.
50sGirl
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A father holding his son’s hand is considered wrong now is it?
We get it, you don’t like them but that criticism really is scraping the bottom of the barrel.
But nearly everyone had the same thought process in the time he’s from. The man is nearly 100 years old. A lot of things have changed. Such as what were classed as jokes and what weren’t. It was completely different times he grew up in. How many of you have met an old man or grandpa that says things you would deem as racist or politically incorrect now. Majority of the time they don’t even realise it’s racist or wrong what they are saying. It’s just how they were brought up back then.
HubIreLovesMnD
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Please feel free to tell me f**k off because I'm not British so what right do I have to comment on the Royal Family.
But Kate strikes me as the biggest Stepford Wife around. Too much of a goody-two-shoes for my tastes.
Say what you like about Meghan, at least she appears to have a personality (maybe not one suited to being a member of the RF)
William seems nice, again a bit boring.
Harry looked like great craic, but the whole splitting from the family thing seems to have knocked the craic out of him.
That's the view from this side of the fence, not meant as throwing shade on your RF, just an observation on the personalities !
But Kate strikes me as the biggest Stepford Wife around. Too much of a goody-two-shoes for my tastes.
Say what you like about Meghan, at least she appears to have a personality (maybe not one suited to being a member of the RF)
William seems nice, again a bit boring.
Harry looked like great craic, but the whole splitting from the family thing seems to have knocked the craic out of him.
That's the view from this side of the fence, not meant as throwing shade on your RF, just an observation on the personalities !
whathastheworldcometo
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yes, it is sad news.
I just wish that she wouldn’t have written this article.
I understand that her aim allegedly boss to bring awareness to the topic, but I think there are also a few factors that contributed to her decision to write this piece that don’t work in her favor.
firstly, she always claimed that she wanted privacy and she even has a claim in high court about a published letter. Now she is sharing intimate details and one of the biggest newspapers in the world.
Secondly, she makes reference to the interview given in South africa, and her comment about not being OK. What has this got to do with it?
This makes it seem like she wanted to use the opportunity to rectify the backlash she received by making this comment in a poor country despite a privileged background.
Unfortunately this all makes it come across as a bid for sympathy and a PR piece and this takes away the vulnerability in sharing this tragedy and deflects from it.
A 90 minute sit down interview with Oprah and Harry and Meghan will be aired in March. So much for wanting privacy! Sounds more like something a celebrity would do. I wonder what the palace makes of it. It must give them flashbacks to Diana's interview with Martin Bashir.
Isa_Drennan
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He’d be too scared. Harry looks like a man who apologises to his wife when he cums.
thatstupidcat
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I have little time for the Royal Family, but I have far more issue with that Wag Kate, Turnip Boff Bill and Elizabeth “My Hidden Billions Are Tax Exempt” Windsor than the American branch of the Windsors.
Good luck to them, they are going to need it.
That thread and all the Meghan and Harry stuff is nuts! The 7th in line to The Throne has decided he doesnt want to be a Royal anymore. So what? Leave them alone then and let them do what they want. He is a million miles from The Throne. They are desperate for their marriage to end and a tiny child to spend his life being shuttled between two continents or better still, for a child to be brought up without a mother. Who wishes that on another human being that they dont know and who has no impact on them whatsoever?
Readread
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I'm not sure owning a yacht and a train really reflects status nowadays, maybe 50 years ago where the monarchy was a lot more respected and accepted. But nowadays I think the general perception is that they really do not need a train or a yacht or any other relic and it makes them look a bit knobbish. Considering the UK has a national debt of trillions of £, I'm sure they'll live without and I don't think the taxpayer should have to foot the bill for either.