It shows what a controlling narcissist Noel is that she feels the need to get his approval whenever she speaks. He knew what he was doing all those years ago and with the ‘confessions’ of him being aggressive/ often drunk at the pub etc he clearly isn’t the nice man he paints himself as. I might get shot down for it because it’s speculation, but I think when he groomed Sue he made it seem like it was her idea. ‘We should do X but you’re too young maybe when you’re older’ ‘please Noel I won’t tell anyone’ ‘oh ok then’ type of sickening behaviour to free himself from the title he deserves. Sue is a massive hole and a disgrace of a mother and grandmother but I feel nothing but sympathy for her. She looks like a lost child behind the eyes because I’m sure she’s now fully aware of the situation he put her in, but it’s never too late Sue, once the kids are gone and it’s just you two who knows what he’ll become. I’m sure he’s making her feel awful for going through the menopause (which I’m convinced is happening) because she’s ‘failing’ him by not providing another baby.