@Pippip my mother was a narcissist ... but she didn't love bomb. She didn't know how to give even a fake compliment. She was extremely critical. She LOVED being pampered. She was impossible to please, nothing was ever good enough or right. So a bit of a different ilk than SJ ... but then my mother never had people fawning over her like SJ does with her dad, and Gerry, and all her exes, and now all her fans. There are different types of narcissists. I can see my mother in IJ, some of SJ, but also other stuff too. My mom was extremely jealous of many people for many reasons ... she was even jealous of us kids having a relationship with our father, who never left her, even though as we kids got older and older we told him we would totally understand if he did, and we even encouraged him. She was very verbally abusive to him. I couldn't wait to leave home. And was glad that my adult life I lived a good distance from her, so only had to deal with short visits. I could handle 3-4 days of her, and then I'd crack and snap at her, and then of course, I was the bad guy. I had to really distance myself from her emotionally. She passed away in February of this year, and I grieved the lose of the mother I needed decades ago, so I haven't felt much sadness at her going.