The Chateau Diaries #137 Fraudie Fannie finagles finances from foolish fading female fanatics!

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Seriously, if and I mean if, the Fleurs go for some Channel 4 wrap-up filming, they are going to have to have their hands over their young girls' eyes when in some rooms with daddy's paintings!

I wonder how Dan/Annalise explain the boob/naked tennis paintings to their young boys?

I still doubt they are going to Lalaland. As I said a few posts ago, they are about to open for the season and have to complete their kitchen. So unless Channel 4 is paying them to attend then I'd be saying no thanks.
 
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That said, wide experience gives me an eye for expat failure to thrive. She and her man have clearly got some food issues, and perhaps other activities which people exile themselves from their homelands to indulge. Not saying it's so, just saying expats feel empowered to enact their vices when they move abroad. This includes things like the Shreks, who have nothing else to do, making volunteers cook their dinners, and wallowing in the whole idea one can have servants.
What do you mean 'clearly got some food issues'?
Do you mean they are fat? Are you suggesting the exiled themselves to France so they could snarf more food? Um - have you seen the size of a lot people in Britain, I think it's safe to eat a lot there?
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I respect your opinion as you are most qualified to give it. I agree that it is unusual for there to be no context or discussion of the pieces left by the artist because there is usually a point with an artwork. She did mention that he was particular about her touching them, and that he once threw away one that she touched. I see him attempting to be be as precise as possible in some sort of effort to gain maximum control of the medium. Almost like a child coloring in a coloring book. His caricatures demonstrate another pursuit, maybe a dalliance with cartooning? I think the compositions were just a choice to allow for a preferred palate or set of caricatures. I’ve seen just as many pieces as any of the viewers and I don’t see an evolution of the work either. His choices to me are strange. Childish works with a sexual overtone? Pretty palettes to color with? Precision as the main point of it all?
I’m just a amateur artist who infrequently draws or paints. I’ve had 8 college classes in art history and took art in high school. Atmosphere and emotion are the hardest things to capture in my opinion, with controlling your hand being the second. I cannot imagine wanting to make the art that he did, or rather it being displayed as it is. The only ones that really work for me are the ones in the SA home. They’re just good art choices for the space, I can’t even remember what they were about. I do know that with limited time, I’ve got to really want to paint something in order to sit down and do it. So, what he produced what what he must have really want to do.
I agree, the SA pictures are the only ones that appeal to me both in composition and their appropriate setting. The SA house itself would make an ideal art gallery.
 
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I still doubt they are going to Lalaland. As I said a few posts ago, they are about to open for the season and have to complete their kitchen. So unless Channel 4 is paying them to attend then I'd be saying no thanks.
The Fleuries themselves said in their Patreon post that they are going to Lalande.
 
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I would imagine that those attics are dreadful in the summer. If she doesn't have heat, she sure as heck won't get air conditioning!
She spends all that time building "Nati's apartment" which is a complete build of an apartment inside a barn stall (which will never be finished) when she has several habitable rooms that just need reno work. I agree it seems ridiculous. But keep in mind, the bottom line for fanny is how to make the most money by doing the least amount of work and she can make more money on a self-catering apartment rental than on a BnB room with no bath or toilet. What baffles me is that she will only gross about 50k for the entire bnb season, which is a lot of work for her "servants", when she makes that much in a few months from other revenue streams - so why does she bother?... I love how her bnb website states: "And, to stay snug in the cooler months, every room has a hot water bottle." I would add, "And to make sure you never feel alone, the bathroom windows have no blinds and look out into the public areas of the chateau."
 
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The reality is……you are judged by the company you keep.


Not really. You are obviously not familiar with the cultural divide in Belgium between the Flemish/Dutch and French speaking. The north and the south. The dislike is real.
I am Belgian originally from the South, born in the DRC and my mother tongue is French. My brother and his wife live in Belgium near the German border and they speak German and French😊.
 
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So we have to be honest here - if a large group of people who loved your work, voluntarily send you 33,000 dollars a month to make a couple of vlogs per week - and had every intention of continuing to do so - would you - now think about this - would you - in all honesty, close your account? Because I tell you now, I wouldn't and I consider myself to be an ethical and honest person. But would I take the money - sure.
Well....duh....;)....but the fact that the patrons are o.k. with that makes all our complaining and criticizing a bit useless I guess. 🤷‍♀️
 
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Thank you for this very interesting story. My academic field for many decades has been art history and art criticism, in fact I graduated on this latter subject, although in the last 10 years I have chosen to devote myself only to fiction writing. As an art critic I have written many articles, art catalogues, held academic courses and have organized and launched several exhibition. So, when I started to see Daddy's paintings, I was very curious to know more about them and to analyze them. I must say I haven't found anything online in terms of exhibitions, catalogues, critical reviews, auction sales, quotation and the like, at least for what I was able to see. So I suppose he was an amateur painter, not a professional, who probably just enjoyed painting after he retired.
Yet, as she seems to value these works so much, I wonder why she didn't organize an exhibition or even a catalogue; it could be because there aren't many works, apart from the ones she treasures in her shittoo? I must also add that she has no taste whatsoever in hanging them. She seems to hang them all in the worst places, as they are surrounded by milions of colours and patterns from her "decoration".
Anyway, isn't it funny that, whilst she talks about these paintings as if they were some masterpieces, in the neglected and plain website where they are reproduced, they are just stuck there, with no title, no date, no description of sorts, no possibility of enlarging them etc. Just thrown there. Total lack of interest. Yet, being such a devoted daughter, and with all the money she and the old hag have between them, why not do something for her father's "art" other than hang it around? It looks to me that neither of them give a damn about it. SJ, who doesn't understand anything about art, just uses the "Daddy-was-a-great-artist" attitude in order to associate herself with the art and the artists' world.

Apart from that, I tried to see what I could say about them, if I were to see these paintings in some gallery. From a technical point of view they are very simple and basic. It seems they were all painted with acrylic colours, which is generally a much easier techinque than oil painting if used by an amateur. Not of course if they are used by a Master. Oil painting allows the artist to layer, to blend, to give more depth, to research more in terms of athmosphere, feelings, impressions etc. Acrylics, if you don't have a deep knowledge of the medium and of their manyfold possibilities, are more flat, especially when used by someone who is not too much into techniques.
In fact, if you notice, all these paintings are very elementary in their composition, the colours are flat, sharply separated, no blending, no shades or hues, the lines very simple, the composition quite elementary. There is only one exception, and that is the very crammed procession of medieval dames and knights he copied from some medieval illuminated manuscripts or perhaps tapestries.
But then, what makes painting art is not just the technique, but the emotion, the feeling, the athmosphere the artist evoques.
Can you see here any feelings, any emotion? No. Everything is quite cold, chilly, flat, lifeless. Just some flat figurines or images on a flat background, which communicate nothing. Apart from some ambiguity which emerges from some of the faces. Also there is a search for originality that has not succeeded.
They are not terrible, mind you. DJ could have been a good poster illustrator for advertising, as the colours are bright, eyecatching, simple but then there is nothing behind it.
I have also read here that some of you think his images have some pornographic quality. I wouldn't say so. I think that this impression is given by the fact that some of his images are sexually characterized - sometimes in a bizarre way - but then everything is so cold, flat and detached that whatever reference loses its deeper meaning. I think that impression can be generated by the ambigous looks some of the figures have in their eyes.
What I gather from all this is - and I want to stress that this is ONLY MY OPINION based on what I can see - that DJ was not a person of passion or strong feelings. He seems to me a detached, very rational man but quite ambitious. Art (well, in this case amateur art) can say a lot about its maker.
There is much more I could say, but then it'll be too long and boring, so I stop here.
I'd like to know what you think of this analysis and if you think it could apply to what we think of SJ's relationship with her Daddy.
I'm an absolute lover of naïve art - my mum gave me a book on it when I was about 12 and have loved it ever since - I don't like DJ's art at all, it reminds me of Mondrian, but that's probably because of all the primary colours!
But I wonder if it would fall under the category of naïve (although naïve art isn't flat like that)?
My great great grandfather was the artist that went with the archeologists who exhumed the Nineveh tombs; he had to draw all the stuff they found, but his son, was an amateur artist; he won an award for his art but never wanted to go professional - we have two portraits and one of a dog (my favourite) of his - an art rest orator had to fix up one of them as my sister poked a pencil through it, he wanted to buy it and offered a crazy amount for it. However, none of his work is catalogued or listed anywhere - we're cool with that.
 
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Thank you for this very interesting story. My academic field for many decades has been art history and art criticism, in fact I graduated on this latter subject, although in the last 10 years I have chosen to devote myself only to fiction writing. As an art critic I have written many articles, art catalogues, held academic courses and have organized and launched several exhibition. So, when I started to see Daddy's paintings, I was very curious to know more about them and to analyze them. I must say I haven't found anything online in terms of exhibitions, catalogues, critical reviews, auction sales, quotation and the like, at least for what I was able to see. So I suppose he was an amateur painter, not a professional, who probably just enjoyed painting after he retired.
Yet, as she seems to value these works so much, I wonder why she didn't organize an exhibition or even a catalogue; it could be because there aren't many works, apart from the ones she treasures in her shittoo? I must also add that she has no taste whatsoever in hanging them. She seems to hang them all in the worst places, as they are surrounded by milions of colours and patterns from her "decoration".
Anyway, isn't it funny that, whilst she talks about these paintings as if they were some masterpieces, in the neglected and plain website where they are reproduced, they are just stuck there, with no title, no date, no description of sorts, no possibility of enlarging them etc. Just thrown there. Total lack of interest. Yet, being such a devoted daughter, and with all the money she and the old hag have between them, why not do something for her father's "art" other than hang it around? It looks to me that neither of them give a damn about it. SJ, who doesn't understand anything about art, just uses the "Daddy-was-a-great-artist" attitude in order to associate herself with the art and the artists' world.

Apart from that, I tried to see what I could say about them, if I were to see these paintings in some gallery. From a technical point of view they are very simple and basic. It seems they were all painted with acrylic colours, which is generally a much easier techinque than oil painting if used by an amateur. Not of course if they are used by a Master. Oil painting allows the artist to layer, to blend, to give more depth, to research more in terms of athmosphere, feelings, impressions etc. Acrylics, if you don't have a deep knowledge of the medium and of their manyfold possibilities, are more flat, especially when used by someone who is not too much into techniques.
In fact, if you notice, all these paintings are very elementary in their composition, the colours are flat, sharply separated, no blending, no shades or hues, the lines very simple, the composition quite elementary. There is only one exception, and that is the very crammed procession of medieval dames and knights he copied from some medieval illuminated manuscripts or perhaps tapestries.
But then, what makes painting art is not just the technique, but the emotion, the feeling, the athmosphere the artist evoques.
Can you see here any feelings, any emotion? No. Everything is quite cold, chilly, flat, lifeless. Just some flat figurines or images on a flat background, which communicate nothing. Apart from some ambiguity which emerges from some of the faces. Also there is a search for originality that has not succeeded.
They are not terrible, mind you. DJ could have been a good poster illustrator for advertising, as the colours are bright, eyecatching, simple but then there is nothing behind it.
I have also read here that some of you think his images have some pornographic quality. I wouldn't say so. I think that this impression is given by the fact that some of his images are sexually characterized - sometimes in a bizarre way - but then everything is so cold, flat and detached that whatever reference loses its deeper meaning. I think that impression can be generated by the ambigous looks some of the figures have in their eyes.
What I gather from all this is - and I want to stress that this is ONLY MY OPINION based on what I can see - that DJ was not a person of passion or strong feelings. He seems to me a detached, very rational man but quite ambitious. Art (well, in this case amateur art) can say a lot about its maker.
There is much more I could say, but then it'll be too long and boring, so I stop here.
I'd like to know what you think of this analysis and if you think it could apply to what we think of SJ's relationship with her Daddy.
Hi there Simple Life and thanks for your comments. I agree that fanny uses her "daddys" art to appear cultured, but his work is not very significant in the bigger picture of the art world, especially in France, and I think people nod in agreement just to placate her and then secretly puzzle over her infatuation assuming it's a personal bias. I agree with your assessment that his work lacks emotion, and after the initial draw to color, line, and shape, the viewer is left feeling bored and underwhelmed with the superficial design elements. Not a lot of there, there. The work has no depth, no subtlety, or compelling emotion, other than whimsy. Regarding the relationship with "daddy", fanny seems enamored with her father in the way that a fangirl is infatuated with a rock star. The relationships with the men in her life, likewise, seem based on superficial trappings. So "daddy" and his painting are large, colorful, and whimsical, but lack depth, emotion, or a deep connection to the subject matter. Picasso, like DJ (and this is where the comparison stops) stylized his subjects into nonpersonal objects with no individuality or intrinsic value except to be manipulated into whatever he wanted them to be on the canvas. As a result, they all pretty much look the same. DJ's portrayal of people is similar in this regard. I find it hard to believe that he was a psychiatric nurse. I couldn't get fanny to engage in any meaningful conversation about her parent's work with people in treatment and she never refers to it in any meaningful way in her vlogs. Aside from Amaury, the whole family seems pretty detached and self-absorbed. That's about all I have to say on the subject. Thanks for going there with me on this though.
 
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Stephanie meets Annalise for the first time ....

Lol - this video is great to rewatch. It has all your favorite hits!

“This tablecloth will be perfect for the Summer Garden party!”

Stephanie “no pants” flashing everyone at Emmaus while lounging on a filthy couch, which she buys and I don’t remember ever seeing again which is probably a good thing!

And by no pants I mean no undies! 😂

100 Stars headbands for everyone!

Actually, watching a bit of the girls going through some of the clothes at Emmaus is fun and Stephanie isn’t manic, but just kind of genuinely funny, and shows why she had a likable show in the beginning.
 
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We've seen Jarvis bully Selmar in at least two videos I can think of -- the one with Matt the digger, where they're discussing a parking spot for the camper, and the one with Nick the tree where ditto. It is the culture of Lalande for Selmar as laid down by the top witch and promulgated by her pitbull. The bullying of Selmar is real, documented, and would stand up in court as evidence. I humbly submit that this has been established. It is not Tattle speculation or conjecture. Which of course everyone is free to do.
But if -- as is not universally agreed -- warning the Patreons off SJ's grift is the goal here, the establishment of Selmar's bullying via fact needs to stand, as a cornerstone of the real case against her: Exploitation of illegally and unsafely employed workers.


Well, they could be fans of the spectacle as so many here are. They could use a vacation from wholesome family life. I also think Fanny is up to something, offering some kind of share in Lalande or another kind of deal.
I think she just wants their subscribers and what better way to get them over to her channel than to have the fleuries vlog their stay at her chateau, as so many others used her to get subscribers.
 
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Does anyone remember an episode of CD and SJ talked about a season of Opera that she was in? From the sounds I've heard her make, I always found it difficult to understand her actually being in an opera, unless it was the chorus (I've been in musicals and can hold a tune but I'd never be a soloist). I wonder what Opera it was.
 
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Hi there Simple Life and thanks for your comments. I agree that fanny uses her "daddys" art to appear cultured, but his work is not very significant in the bigger picture of the art world, especially in France, and I think people nod in agreement just to placate her and then secretly puzzle over her infatuation assuming it's a personal bias. I agree with your assessment that his work lacks emotion, and after the initial draw to color, line, and shape, the viewer is left feeling bored and underwhelmed with the superficial design elements. Not a lot of there, there. The work has no depth, no subtlety, or compelling emotion, other than whimsy. Regarding the relationship with "daddy", fanny seems enamored with her father in the way that a fangirl is infatuated with a rock star. The relationships with the men in her life, likewise, seem based on superficial trappings. So "daddy" and his painting are large, colorful, and whimsical, but lack depth, emotion, or a deep connection to the subject matter. Picasso, like DJ (and this is where the comparison stops) stylized his subjects into nonpersonal objects with no individuality or intrinsic value except to be manipulated into whatever he wanted them to be on the canvas. As a result, they all pretty much look the same. DJ's portrayal of people is similar in this regard. I find it hard to believe that he was a psychiatric nurse. I couldn't get fanny to engage in any meaningful conversation about her parent's work with people in treatment and she never refers to it in any meaningful way in her vlogs. Aside from Amaury, the whole family seems pretty detached and self-absorbed. That's about all I have to say on the subject. Thanks for going there with me on this though.
I don’t thin DJ was a nurse. I think he was in the management and administration there of. That is the impression I got from one of Gerry’s interviews.
 
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I don’t thin DJ was a nurse. I think he was in the management and administration there of. That is the impression I got from one of Gerry’s interviews.
My understanding is both Mummy and Daddy were psychiatric nurses, but believe Daddy did more of the mgmt/admin when they opened their own care home. and Mummy was Nurse Rachett.

Stay turned - Fanny said she was going to try and put out a vlog on Sunday night of the Easter Egg Hunt. 🐰🐣🌼🐇🐔
 
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My understanding is both Mummy and Daddy were psychiatric nurses, but believe Daddy did more of the mgmt/admin when they opened their own care home. and Mummy was Nurse Rachett.
It wasn't in the "Mummy Interview" but she did at one point say that she met DJ when they were both training as psychiatric nurses.I also recall Gerry saying that at one period he trained as a residential social worker and for a time managed one of their care homes.
 
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The Fleuries must be getting a huge pay day to come for Easter. Fanny is desperate for their growing audience. The Fleuries have taken out loans and have all their expensive fixtures and fittings! It would not surprise me if this is a mutual agreement, money for exposure on the new No. 1 chateau channel.

Otherwise I just don’t get it. It’d be like the Queen going to stay with the Kardashians for Easter!
Doubt Fanny would be spending money to get them to go to her pile. I guess they've got the joint link of both being filmed by Channel 4 so it's good promotion for their chateau as well. They had a house in Paris which they sold & good well paying careers, so think they were reasonably well off going into their chateau adventure. Looking at their channel I see a lot of work done by themselves, Ebay purchases, grants for renovating the facade & sponsorship. Healthy YouTube numbers - bigger than Fanny's & probably more patrons too. The price of their 4 rooms at around £200/$270 dollars a night will bring them in a good income. Haven't heard about any mention of loans? maybe I missed that. They seem to have a good lifestyle & can only imagine the culture shock it will be for them to leave their calm and tasteful environment to enter that garish grubby pile full of champagne fuelled, shrieking, costume dressed misfits :ROFLMAO:
 
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It wasn't in the "Mummy Interview" but she did at one point say that she met DJ when they were both training as psychiatric nurses.I also recall Gerry saying that at one period he trained as a residential social worker and for a time managed one of their care homes.
I'm getting a mental image of Chloris Leachman as Nurse Diesel and Harvey Korman as Dr Montague in Mel Brooks psychiatric spoof movie 'High Anxiety'.
 
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