*quietly leaves this here to lighten the mood*
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You miss the point. Let’s talk about Hamza, who is my favourite. It is being said on here by some posters that he has been overmarked, and he most certainly has, so add to that how popular he is. So very hard to beat. No matter what the plans are, the public has the ability to change them. Can you tell me why the judges are over marking Hamza, is it because they think he is a lovely man. Why did they not give Jayde the marks she deserved? The public decided she wasn’t very nice, we are fickle, being big headed does no-one any favours .But I admire your interest in Strictly, and your knowledge of the contestants. However, I believe there has been more than one contestant with a disability.
If we are considering Hamza has knee issues, and is struggling, he could withdraw before the final, it gets more intense from here. He’s not so ego driven as to want to win at all costs, he wouldn’t want to let Jowita down but I don’t get massive competitive nature from him. Then it’s a free for all…
There was absolutely no need for that comment from Craig. There's lots of ways of saying something, and that was totally unnecessary. It will probably have the effect of pushing votes her way though, I guess.
Anton had calmed down a bit since Blackpool, well mostly
, and actually gave proper feedback to some of them, re flaws that he saw. But both he and Craig had criticised Hamza, then turned around and gave him scores that didn't match their words. I don't understand when that happens.I know it's been said Johannes over danced but I couldn't take my eyes off him.
I usually fast forward through the talky bits but with the shorter programme last night, I listened to most of them. Will's constant talk about his 'kids' - I actually muted him in the end.
Do you believe Jayde was undermarked? The judges overmarked her from the beginning in my opinion, she learned very little technique and walked around.
Vito's is better.
Who'd have thunk a few weeks ago that Gorka's arse would divide opinion
Thank you for your reply. Comments like mine are often regarded as sinister plots or conspiracy theories. That is how they are sidelined. I am the not-quite geriatric generation, so I can see the manipulation of the masses very clearly. It started with store cards. If you use one, you have been successfully absorbed.…… but what does any of this mean in a strictly come dancing context? that’s a lot of words to not say very much really. are you implying that hamza is getting high marks because the bbc want a poc to win because to believe that is to ignore the sometimes harsh comments that fleur, tyler and molly have all received in this series so far. i fully agree that hamza has received scores that don’t reflect the dance, especially last night, but the idea that this is some kind of sinister plot to have a “minority” win makes no sense. the judges just play favourites sometimes.
but i guess i’ve been absorbed into the regimecan someone help me out of it please? i’m meant to be going out for dinner at 2
I have replied to someone else regarding the context in Strictly, I won’t bore everyone.
i think they meant one winner with a disability, we’ve had numerous contestants with disabilities, a lot of whom (jonny peacock for one) received criticism and low-ish marks. what marks do you think jayde deserved?
the over marking of hamza has (imo) only been in the last three weeks, before this he received scores which suited the routines. that tracks with us seeing more of his personality and (in motsi’s case especially) judges and the public becoming more fond of him. that always happens on this show as the weeks go on because we get to know them all more (look at kym for another example). this does mean we get into you’re my favourite! and look at his little face! territory but is really nothing more sinister than both judges and public becoming more attached to someone who seems a nice and gentle man. i wish you actually would say what you’re trying to imply here.
am i still in the strictly come dancing threadThank you for your reply. There is no sinister plot, though comments like mine are often regarded as that or conspiracy theories. That is how they are sidelined. I am the not-quite geriatric generation, so I can see the manipulation of the masses very clearly. It started with store cards. If you use one, you have been successfully absorbed.
This is great!
Coming into this thread like:
And leaving again like:
And leaving again like:
Can we make this a thread title?
I don't think anybody here would dare call Jayde fat so why is it okay to call Hamza fat?
aw i kinda wanted “absorbed into the regime”Can we make this a thread title?
Thank you for your reply.
Are you telling me she would not have received high marks from the judges had she been Helen, for example ? Or been given the compliment from Shirley that she was an outstanding dancer ? As for daring to say Jayde was fat, and not Hamza, I think we all know the answer to that one.
If it was based entirely on who is the best dancer, Molly and Fleur would both be guaranteed to be in the final. They've been in multiple dance offs, while multiple less skilled white contestants have been saved from the bottom of the leaderboard by the audience. Failing to see the woke conspiracy here.
If the judges and/or producers were trying to manufacture a Molly, Fleur, Hamza and Tyler final, then why have Molly and Fleur been critiqued more harshly than others? Why is at least one of them plonked in the middle of the leaderboard nearly every week so they land in the dance off? Why does Will keep getting overmarked if they don't want any white people in the final? Why has Helen's previous experience as a tap dance teacher never been mentioned, while Molly gets stuck with a VT about stage school every other week?
Hamza has been overmarked a few times because he's popular (same reason Will has) and the judges don't want to put the runaway winner near the bottom of the leaderboard a few weeks out from the final. I think they are being stupidly OTT obvious about it, a few points less certainly wouldn't have done him any harm, but it's not because he's black, it's because the judges marks always go up towards the end of the competition.
Now I won't pretend that executives don't take pains to avoid being accused of discrimination, and sometimes people do overreach in attempts to be seen as progressive, but I'm not seeing any unfair bias in favour of minority contestants. I think Strictly is a random chaos machine, throwing bad songs, costumes, themes, weird marking etc at everyone at random. If woke string pulling was behind it, why was Ritchie, ticking two minority boxes, completely shafted with that awful movie week theme? Why has Ellie consistently been given hideous dresses and songs, despite ticking no boxes? Why was Molly - clear finalist material - thrown under the bus with the
I don’t know why they overmarked him. But I don’t believe it was because there is a plot to get him into the final. I think they like him and he’s a fantastic dancer. Anton was possibly swayed to mark higher because of the other comments, but I think Motsi and Shirley genuinely enjoyed the dance and scored him accordingly.
I meant only one dancer with a disability has won, there have been more in the competition though.
Please not another sobfest pre final where one contestant has to drop out because of injury.
I suspect Jowita won't blub as much as Kai though. Hamza for the win, he has been a revelation this year, and so unexpected.
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I am not outraged by anything on Strictly, And Hamza is my favourite. I wasn’t interested in Tony at all, I had never heard of him. Having a jaded view of the BBC and other large corporates does not indicate I am outraged. In fact, the only time I have been a bit annoyed was when Jayde was overmarked because she was totally rubbish.
Yes absolutely and for whatever reason she seemed to think all the public loved her so she bombarded us with personal stories which no doubt have been encountered sadly by many. Wonder why they gave her such license to go unchecked; appreciate she is different to most Strictly contestants but let us judge and appraise through honest representations: I ended up longing for her to go which isn’t fair either
No, vastly overmarked.
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