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That bit never made sense to me. My mum was terrified of water, so never went on a ferry, let alone a fairly small boat. You could have offered her a million pounds and she couldn’t have set foot on anything that would constantly move with the water every second she was on board.
The only thing we can reasonably say about Wagner is that he seems entirely devoid of any scandal. Nobody he dated has ever said he was violent, he remarried nine years after Woods died and they seem to have had a great thirty year marriage now, and his kids clearly love him.

Worth mentioning that her sister has done everything she can to try and destroy Wagner from the time he first married Woods - even saying repeatedly he is gay. I’m assuming much of the stories about why it has to be a murder come from her - she is the sole person saying Natalie was afraid of water and couldn’t swim, which seems to go against her.... being on a bloody boat!!!

Does Walken strike anyone as the sort of gentleman who would flirt back at a mans wife even? He’s a scandal free great actor who has been happily married to the same woman since 1969.
It's widely believed they were having an affair though.
Her fear of water is well documented. They were high-society types, both affairs and yaghts/boats are everyday things to them.
It's suspicious, I think it's fair to say.
 
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Fightfan

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I’m sure there have always been Sex Tapes, but wasn’t it Paris Hilton who started the whole “Celeb Sex Tape” thing with the “One Night In Paris” tape? Which ended up being “leaked” on purpose, and then sold to a porn film company, and made Paris an absolute fortune in sales....I suppose we have Paris to thank for giving the idea to Kim Kardashian who made her own sex tape with Ray Jay. Although, it was Kris Jenner who was responsible for selling the tape, thus launching the whole Kardashian empire. Whoever said that Sex sells wasn’t lying!! 😬
Info from a sex tape broker here from one of my favourite podcasts:

 
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thegirlscout

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Go back about 4 pages.
Thank you!

I remember reading Fifi’s Facebook profile after Peaches died and it seemed that Fifi wasn’t that close to her father at the point in time. It sounded like she was close with Pixie but nothing was mentioned about Tiger Lily. So I wonder if there has been his divide since they got older.
As for Pixie, when she was a teenager and getting drunk and doing god knows what else I actually thought she’d follow her sister down the same path. Didn’t expect her to be married to her long term partner and not front and centre of the gossip magazines.
Did Peaches get veneers? I know she lost a lot of weight which I guess was down to drugs but her face changed a lot too and I can’t quite pinpoint it.
 
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Handerton

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Ooh sarcastic! Of course not. Just it's a big part of socialising for film stars living in warm climates.
Sometimes society types really try to overcome phobias because of this, and similar.
Remember how Princess Diana was terrified of horses but was taught riding again by lover boy Hewitt, (in every sense of the word.). I've known a few rich peeps who have really struggled with not being able to fly, too, and forced themselves, as it's like taking a bus or über for us. Or at least me.

I'm not saying RW is a killer, I just think there are suspicious circumstances.
Haha. All good. It’s the Barrymore question though isn’t it:
If you can’t swim, why do you have a pool?
If you’re mortally afraid of water, why are you on a boat?

She didn’t like water due to motion sickness, the only suggestion that she was afraid of it comes from her sister who was a proven liar and basically a nut job.
 
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ChickenLicking

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I dont hear much about Danny Goffey at all or for that matter any of the Primrose Hill set apart from when Jude Law gets someone else pregnant but I have heard about Pearl occasionally. She does interior design bits in the sunday supplements, usually dragging one or both of her daughters along ( never the boys)
Pearl and Danny's eclectic Somerset mansion was featured on MTV Cribs UK fairly recently. It's on NowTV.
 
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Quattro formaggi

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Does anyone recall the episode of What Not To Wear when T&S pulled down that poor new mum's knickers? Horrible or what?


He seemed to take about ten years to gain the requisite A Level grades to get into Cambridge. Does anyone recall him in the film Confetti? He and Olivia Colman were tricked by the director, Debbie Isitt, into stripping off completely and she didn't pixelate their bits as promised?
Yes I do it was a mum of triplets wasn’t it?
 
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seaborgium

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I would choose Michael Hutchence over Noel Gallagher any day. Noel thought he was the dogs bollocks, and humiliating Michael in front of his peers must have really hurt. I agree that he was probably depressed anyway, and self medicating with whatever drugs he was on.. But still, a shitty thing to do to anyone..


Oh good digging seaborgium!! ❤
Thank you :) I am known for my research skills...been told I should be spy by friends!
 
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Missmopps

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None of this is mine, so can't take credit. Like I said I read it online years ago. Some people had dug really really deep on the family and were posting pics and links. It was excellent, but unfortunately was all taken down.
Were the initials of the forum you mention TCCF? I used to read that and they had a huge thread on the strange, twisted world of Peaches
 
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All I can think is that social services are aware that very little child rearing goes on. Most of it is done by the nannies. They are very overstretched so maybe need to concentrate on the ones with no buffer rather than the ones where the parents will get a shit hot lawyer onto them. Even Pearl Lowe had a nanny when all she was doing was getting off her face.
Yes very true, makes sense
 
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Handerton

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Yes, but didn't the skipper on the boat say Wagner didn't make much of an attempt to look for his wife?
Yeah getting his five minutes of notoriety in maybe? I’m just thinking more along the lines of if I died on a nighttime trip on our boat my kids would certainly have a good idea if my OH may or may not have killed me. The fact is, anyone going overboard at night without a life jacket or any LED lights (flares back then I guess) could be in the sea three meters from the boat and there’s next to no chance of spotting them in moonlight. From the little I recall was it something like she insisted on leaving the boat and floating off in a dinghy, or did she just go overboard?
 
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Madamex

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I don’t know but all I can say then is that the person i know has been in radio for 25 years (BBC for over a decade now) and every single tale he’s told us has turned out to be true - from Dale Winton being obsessed with David Baddeil to Zoe Ball having tried it on with every lad under 25 in the building to Wogan being an awful bigot. Virtually everyone on the radio has a persona, and he says Karl’s is just a very extreme character that is miles away from how he was until XFM. At least accept that his radio persona doesn’t portray a well educated man with drive, ambition, and exceptional credentials with the characteristics to make it in a really cut throat business 😂
Oh no I loved Terry Wogan!
 
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If anyone wants to see the photos of the aftermath and what looks like the autopsy pics then here's a link. EXTREMELY GRAPHIC UNEDITED PICTURES at the link. You've been warned.

How have they managed to get hold of those pics!? 😳
 
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