SacconeJolys #94 “Trans mum” and single gay dad, E2s identity is clearly a fad

[Redrose97]

I do wonder how Edie's behaviour is like when they are off camera especially with how bratty they are when being filmed. As someone said , Edie very much rules the roost in that family especially since they are the very much the cash cow for Jonathan. I doubt Edie would even get told off for misbehaving.

I saw a bit in an older video where Jonathan was pretending Edie was going to take A1's best friend away from her. Poor A1 was crying and Edie was just acting like a mean girl with Jonathan, pretending that she was going to take her friend away. I watched it days ago and I keep thinking about how horrible it was.

I'm just mostly interested in the family dynamic amongst the siblings and Edie. There must be some jealousy about the attention that Edie gets as A1 is very much ignored by her parents. There must be so much jealousy about the treats and days out Edie gets in comparison to the other kids. The amount of arguments and jealousy my brother and I had if one of us went out to McDonald's whilst the other was away in a summer camp with cubs was bad enough! Imagine what it would be like in that house with everything that Edie gets!

 

[peachesandcreamz]

I think Edie probably rules the roost at the moment and is likely moody when they aren’t the centre of everything. All Jonnys fault as that’s how he is with edie, constantly giving them the attention.
If anything, the other 3 seemed like they were having fun together, laughing on the zip line, making up dances. I can imagine if edie was there, the dances would be edie posing, saying slay and swearing
---
As many of us who’ve opened up about having an ED (still can’t believe she suggested edie for Eduardos name!) Her saying she been recovered for 4 years, just proves she has no idea.
She also needs to stick to a version of why she had surgery. Sometimes she mentions it’s for the diastasis, others it’s “tummy tuck for a trans mum of 4”.
It appears she didn’t try to resolve it herself, not with much effort anyway. She claims she had a 3 finger separation, which is around 2.5cm. Gemma Atkinson had a 6cm separation and actually went to see a specialist (not surgical) to check her body health, including her scar and internally. She’s continued with her exercise and actually properly works out and does have input from nutritionalist and a PT, and managed to reduce the gap. I understand it doesn’t always work, and some need surgery, but it’s the fact she does lack lustre old peoples home exercises, and then eats small amounts of food, and has a boob job and god knows what else at the sane time- it makes me suspicious

It’s clear by her gaunt face that she’s lost weight. She has the bobble head look and dresses in the kids section. That’s not normal for someone who isn’t naturally very petite

Sorry - her doctors advice was to "stay the same" size??? Lol he meant DON'T LOSE ANY MORE WEIGHT hun cus there's nothing of you!!

 

[Jassieau]

She wants to give the appearance of divorce because of Matt it’s so obvious. I wonder what Jono thinks

 

[Greentrees]

In Anna’s vlog, Andrea had a ham sandwich at the playground cafe. I don’t get it, she lets them have meat outside of home but at home she deprives them of any form of meat except fish. That just doesn’t make sense! If your kid enjoys having meat then ffs’s give it to them.

Just because Anna doesn’t want to eat meat doesn’t mean she has to exclude it from her kids diet. Remember when Emilia binged on ham when they were on holiday because she craved and wanted it so much, yet that witch won’t buy any or let them have it in their own house!

 

[Blue_ocean]

The amount of makeup anna puts on daily to do absolutely nothing is insane
And then wonders why she gets spots at 36 years old

 

[account70032]

Anna’s vlog when they sit down for date night and Jonathan low-key sounds annoyed and fed up of not having much time alone with Anna cause he starts going on about going out for a date night or a night away but Anna couldn’t sound less interested and she purposely keeps looking out the window at the kids playing outside to make a distraction and tries to change the subject quickly. I get the impression he desperately wants the relationship/marriage to be lovey dovey and for it to last but she clearly is in love with Matt/infatuated with him. Don’t get me wrong Jonathan isn’t attractive and he’s creepy his personality is awful I’ve no idea what she saw in him in the first place but she’s not a nice person either and she’s very selfish so neither of them are great but he is her husband and it’s strange that she avoids spending time with him yet finds all the time in the world for Matt she’s never too busy for him.

 

[Jumpindesia]

I've just seen a short on YouTube from today of E2 talking about it being pride month and that means everyone should be nice to him. Then waves a rainbow flag about. Wtf E is a child! And does that mean unless E is going on about Being 'trans' or waving a rainbow flag no-one should be nice to them? So weird that this mentality is being put on a young child!

 

[leabytottle]

I doubt Edie or the SJ know much about pride. Aside from waving flags and captioning “trans” in everything they do, they don’t do anything else to support the LGBTQ+ community. It wasn’t long ago that Anna appeared uncomplaining a sister who was a lesbian.
If they constantly talk about being trans, is that not just hammering gone to edie how different they are? Let Edie be a kid FFS. It’s going to be tough once they hit the teens, so just let edie enjoy life. Of course they need to be prepared for the future, but it doesn’t need to be mentioned daily. IF Edie does identity as female, then in future it will be resented that everything is “trans girl”. If you truly believed then surely they’d stop the trans part?

 

[MrsLennox23]

At 24:40 into Jono’s newest pointless video of spoiling A2 in a toy shop for no reason at all, he calls A2 Edie and doesn’t even realise he’s done it. He is so obsessed with that child it’s actually worrying. The others must see the favouritism and absolutely resent their sibling for it.

 

[Marie_10]

It's really cute how Emilia is taking care of Andrea, I'm glad that she seems well adjusted and I hope that spending time with Emilia is good for both Andrea and Alessia.

It seems like Edie doesn't get along with Andrea and Alessia...

 

[Nutsymom]

I have noticed E2 is more and more alone than being with siblings. He appears only when there's a tiktok or YouTube short to be filmed. The vlogs shows that E2 spends more time with Jonathan and Anna pretends to be a "hands on mom" to both A's.

 

[leabytottle]

I have noticed E2 is more and more alone than being with siblings. He appears only when there's a tiktok or YouTube short to be filmed. The vlogs shows that E2 spends more time with Jonathan and Anna pretends to be a "hands on mom" to both A's.

Her idea of a day out with the A’s is sitting in a cafe with Matt, it looking at photos of Matt, whilst they play, ignored by her. In one of her vlogs, the kids had breakfast at home (2 brioche, smothered in chocolate spread and a banana) then at 10, they all had a cake, and at 12, lunch (a ham sandwich for A2!)
That’s way more than they’re used to in whole day!! There’s very limited interaction with term, aside from “good boy” as he shovelled food in his mouth. Alessia looked bedraggled, it also made no sense for her to play in her stagecoach clothes, as they went home beforehand.

I do not understand why they don’t give their kids meat. Neither of them are vegetarian, despite Jonny saying he’s plant based, but eats tuna and dairy! Even if they were, it’s unfair to not allow their kids to eat meat (I’ve been vegetarian since I was a teenager and my kids and husband aren’t)
Emilia and Andrea eat ham at any given opportunity, I bet they love school dinners, the choices!

 

[Blue_ocean]

It's really cute how Emilia is taking care of Andrea, I'm glad that she seems well adjusted and I hope that spending time with Emilia is good for both Andrea and Alessia.

It seems like Edie doesn't get along with Andrea and Alessia...

Wouldn't be the biggest shock, E2 and alessia are complete opposites in every way and he's been raised to be negative about anything remotely boy related so through no fault of andrea isn't interested

Remember a while back they specifically told Andrea alessias birthday gift of dolls weren't for him but had no issue with E2 having one.
And he couldn't have a frozen party had to have superheroes repeatedly instead.
But E2 got barbie and pink chaos every year.

 

[Greentrees]

Does Billy no mates Jonathan ever hang out or interact with adults or people his own age.

If he's not with his 10 year old money maker at a shopping mall, starbucks, or driving to get a boba/bubble tea or taking E2 to get skincare or in his house filming, then you will find him sitting alone in his dark creepy office with that wall of CCTV camera screens, watching and recording his familys movements while he's logged into his computer on some weirdo site at the same time researching what content is next he can use to exploit E2 everyday.

Or you will find him in a toy shop like he was in his vlog today with his 5 and 11 year old acting like a complete hair brained, loud bumbling fool with his other money spinners, hyping them up, trying to get a rise out of them. Again, with his kids.

The adult people that do know Jonathan either thru his online persona or school parents or his own immediate family (mum/dad/siblings) know the type of unsavoury, unprincipled character he is therefore wouldn't be able to tolerate or want to mix with a weirdo like him, let alone have any type of coherent intelligible conversation with him with every second word being "like" speaking with an annoying vocal fry, acting like a childish man toddler.

He chooses not to mix with adults of his own accord too, he knows deep down people cannot abide him and knowing they know he exploits his kids for a living, and hasn't got a real job. Plus, he has no social skills and is socially inept unable to engage in a normal adult social setting. He doesn't have a single adult friend.... is it any wonder why, says a lot about him and not in a good way because he is a disgusting horrible human being!

 

[SummerRay_]

I think by the time A2 came along their relationship with the Prep school was all but ruined. I strongly suspect the school was recommending things for all 4 kids, and those two muppets were just out and out refusing, by which point the school last patience and just took their money. I'm not sure I can judge them for that!

you CANT judge them for taking money over safeguarding children???? please tell me i’ve misunderstood

 

[Redrose97]

I don't know much about Jonathan's life outside of youtube, but I do wonder if he was someone who was very unhappy as a child/ did not have the best childhood. I always felt as if he is trying to relive the childhood that never had with Edie, especially as he was apparently nonbinary when he wore the barista apron skirt. He just seems to be enacting things that he wished could have happened to him as a child, especially with videos like going to the toy shop and buying everything. He is very much like a middle aged Peter Pan who had been forced to grow up but he's trying to hold onto his youth by acting like a kid. I think that he wants to be seen as being a fun and cool dad and he wants to be liked by others even if it's children. I don't think that he cares much for adult's approval but he just gets a buzz from being liked by children and he's very much catered his persona for that. I do wonder what he's like off camera and how much the persona is there.

I think that he wanted to be famous and filming the kids was the best way for him to do it. He doesn't have the personality or talent to start a traditional media career and the best he can do is be in videos so if Edie became famous, he would famous by association.

He seems very out of place with adults, judging from when he used to make videos with Zoe and Alfie. I think that a part of it was due to their age difference as well as he was in his thirties and they were in their early twenties when they made videos. Does anyone know if they had a fall out or something with Jonathan and Anna as they used to be in videos a lot. I can't even imagine him interacting with another adult or even speaking about something such as the news. I don't know if he just hangs out with children or only engages with them as he wants to shut out the adult world and not grow up.

 

[callmegracie]

I don't know much about Jonathan's life outside of youtube, but I do wonder if he was someone who was very unhappy as a child/ did not have the best childhood. I always felt as if he is trying to relive the childhood that never had with Edie, especially as he was apparently nonbinary when he wore the barista apron skirt. He just seems to be enacting things that he wished could have happened to him as a child, especially with videos like going to the toy shop and buying everything. He is very much like a middle aged Peter Pan who had been forced to grow up but he's trying to hold onto his youth by acting like a kid. I think that he wants to be seen as being a fun and cool dad and he wants to be liked by others even if it's children. I don't think that he cares much for adult's approval but he just gets a buzz from being liked by children and he's very much catered his persona for that. I do wonder what he's like off camera and how much the persona is there.

I think that he wanted to be famous and filming the kids was the best way for him to do it. He doesn't have the personality or talent to start a traditional media career and the best he can do is be in videos so if Edie became famous, he would famous by association.

He seems very out of place with adults, judging from when he used to make videos with Zoe and Alfie. I think that a part of it was due to their age difference as well as he was in his thirties and they were in their early twenties when they made videos. Does anyone know if they had a fall out or something with Jonathan and Anna as they used to be in videos a lot. I can't even imagine him interacting with another adult or even speaking about something such as the news. I don't know if he just hangs out with children or only engages with them as he wants to shut out the adult world and not grow up.

they stopped talking around the time alfie said on a podcast that he couldn't stand family vloggers (ironic because he basically does the same with his 2 kids now) but they probably weren't really friends in the first place- it seemed like a promotion tactic by gleam (the company that used to manage both zalfie and the sjs) and there were a few times jonno tagged alfie in things that he completely ignored

 

[Scarlett O' Hara]

That last video is disgusting, just hideous. The amount of money spent at the Toy store is utterly disgraceful.

Jonathan Joly is certifiable. What right minded parent thinks this is a good activity for their child.

 

[evoway13]

I don't know much about Jonathan's life outside of youtube, but I do wonder if he was someone who was very unhappy as a child/ did not have the best childhood. I always felt as if he is trying to relive the childhood that never had with Edie, especially as he was apparently nonbinary when he wore the barista apron skirt. He just seems to be enacting things that he wished could have happened to him as a child, especially with videos like going to the toy shop and buying everything. He is very much like a middle aged Peter Pan who had been forced to grow up but he's trying to hold onto his youth by acting like a kid. I think that he wants to be seen as being a fun and cool dad and he wants to be liked by others even if it's children. I don't think that he cares much for adult's approval but he just gets a buzz from being liked by children and he's very much catered his persona for that. I do wonder what he's like off camera and how much the persona is there.

I think that he wanted to be famous and filming the kids was the best way for him to do it. He doesn't have the personality or talent to start a traditional media career and the best he can do is be in videos so if Edie became famous, he would famous by association.

He seems very out of place with adults, judging from when he used to make videos with Zoe and Alfie. I think that a part of it was due to their age difference as well as he was in his thirties and they were in their early twenties when they made videos. Does anyone know if they had a fall out or something with Jonathan and Anna as they used to be in videos a lot. I can't even imagine him interacting with another adult or even speaking about something such as the news. I don't know if he just hangs out with children or only engages with them as he wants to shut out the adult world and not grow up.

From people who knew him growing up - Jono had an idyllic childhood.....he went on many holidays with his parents and siblings - they were comfortable with regards to money....when there was a lot of poverty in Ireland at the time. Jono complained in his book that he didn't get to dress up in Halloween costumes.....or have 'themed' birthday parties. This wasn't down to his parents not caring - we just didn't have these themed events back then. His father set him up in business with his own internet cafe......People who went in said that Jono spent most of his time in the back office and was rude/arrogant to them when he did appear. Perhaps his parents weren't 'loving' towards their children.....mine weren't particularly parents who showed public displays of affection but, I knew they loved me.

 

[Blue_ocean]

That last video is disgusting, just hideous. The amount of money spent at the Toy store is utterly disgraceful.

Jonathan Joly is certifiable. What right minded parent thinks this is a good activity for their child.

If we thought that was bad its obvious E2 will get a go more than likely in far more expensive shops for skincare and makeup
With how greedy he is its going to be horrendous.